~~ wank.

[reenka]

I have a very strange confession to make. I just need to get it off my chest so I never have to writhe in silent nameless discomfort ever again. Yeah, right.

Squeeing, 100%-positive and yet not really -descriptive- rave recs/reviews of fics make me cringe. No, I lie. I hate them. I REALLY HATE THEM A LOT. RAAAAGE. (Ok, no.)
    EDIT - to clarify: by "review" I don't mean feedback, I mean it in the "movie review" sense.

Not only that, they make me violently dislike both the reviewer and the fic, even if I -adore- the fic in question. I have to really bite my lip and repeat to myself "I love this fic, I -love- this fic, remember I -love- this fic!" so that I don't just write an anti-rec right back detailing all the flaws I can possibly think of (there are always some! Jeez!). I realize this is easily seen as hypocritical, considering how excited I get over fics. Still, I could -swear- I've never given what I'd consider pat compliments: Oh, this is great, genius, wonderful, beautiful, amazing. I've never called anyone "extremely talented" or even talented. I've never raved about how worthy someone/something is of their popularity or thought any fic -should- be popular as a sign of its greatness. Of course, I'm sort of elitist and snobbish like that :>

I've never guarranteed anyone would have to like a fic. That just -really- pisses me off. How could anyone assume -any- piece of writing is soooo great, -everyone- has to love it? My god, what arrogance! Not only that, it just feels like advertising to me. I hate advertising, in case that isn't clear. I hate it with all the passion of a thousand burning hells. Nothing rubs me the wrong way like a rave review that could easily apply to -any- fic out of hundreds. Saying only nondescript, gushy things about a truly good, visceral piece of writing just... deadens it.

I actually can't stand reading most positive reviews, though I'm almost always highly entertained by negative ones (they're usually funny, at least). The words one uses in response should contain some tiny spark of inspiration, something that is reminiscent of the fic, otherwise the review is pointless because it doesn't actually -say- anything and all I get is "propaganda-propaganda-propaganda-propaganda". And as should be painfully obvious, I reallyreallyreallyreallyreally despise propaganda quite, quite a lot.

So I'm in this weird place where I'm semi-known for recs and reviews and yet I have very little respect for the practice of reccing & reviewing itself as is commonly practiced. In fact, 98% of all blurbs & mini-reviews and such annoy the living daylights out of me, especially if they're of fics I adore. First of all, if you act as if a fic is -perfect-, it takes away from its actual humanity, from its real worth. It's like, you're not using your brain, so why should I believe a word you say in response, and does that mean -I'm- not using my brain in loving it, too?

If I had time, I'd post a mini-list of all my favorite fics and say only critical things of them to show how much I love them. If one doesn't -think- or express one's feelings in any sort of creative manner, one is just a parrot, someone who likes the shiny thing without really being capable of seeing its true beauty. I think to an extent, the readers help define the fic-- that is to say, if brainless zombies like a fic, you wonder how good can it possibly be. On the other hand, if eloquent, thoughtful people like the fic, one feels the worth of the fic itself is thus elevated.

Because of this, I realized I have a creed-- a set of ethics as a reviewer:

    - Never use hyperbole-- say how it affects you in the most direct yet descriptive way possible; pretend you're talking to a skeptic if it helps. Said skeptic will laugh every time you use more than one adjective per sentence.
    - Never project your own response onto others-- confine yourself to detailing your own thoughts, leave others to form their own opinions; separate your kinks from those of others and keep it in mind when describing the merits of a fic.
    - Never push a fic onto others as if it's a drug-- separate your own excitement and your actual full response to the work.
    - Objectivity isn't just for dinner anymore: try it, it works! Don't do the writer or the work the disservice of pretending they've attained perfection: there is no need to be negative, but please refrain from overindulging in the "bestseller syndrome", where mass hysteria passes for literary worth. Treat the writer as "a writer", and the work as "a work", as best you can.

*wankwankwankwank*

Comments

[kerri]

Hm. *waves* Friended you awhile ago, but I don't know if I've ever actually posted here. ^_~ I'm Kerri, and I've found alot of your posts interesting.

You've hit on one of the things that I've noticed come up among some people I know who write - while they adore all their reviews, they adore the ones who pick out certain elements that they love even more. It's always *nice* to see/hear someone going "OMG Your fic is so brilliant! I don't know why anyone would dislike it, I'm sure all my friends will like it!" - but after a time that just isn't as special. I always wonder about huge fics like the Draco Trilogy or any number of others - do the authors ever get sick of seeing pure squeeage on their review board, and nothing else? I think they must, even if they appreciate the general intent. Compliments are nice, but so is knowing exactly *what* you did that was so brilliant - and even what *wasn't* so brilliant.

So when I'm reviwing - more on FA than on here, I'm sad to admit - I try to pick out what I particularily enjoyed, or what I thought should be changed. I've got comments on it too, from the authors - they've written to me and said that they appreciated the time I took to go through and say that.

So, in other words - I totally agree with you, I couldn't have said it better myself.

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

Heh. Hi~:)
I -have- heard about writers liking in-depth feedback more than squeeage lots of times... though this resentment of seeing squeeage for -other- writers in recs/reviews seems less common, which is why it sort of embarrasses me. Like, it has nothing to do with me, really, and yet it pisses me off to the point of wanting to contradict it. Sometimes, anyway. Especially in recs, and especially if it's some sort of "listen-up-'cause-I-know-what-I'm-talking-about" rec.

wah. Dude, I need (another) hobby.
Er. I mean work... I should work... yeah, that's it....
*cringes*

[kerri]

Well, you're not entirely alone in that, either - I've felt kind of bitter a few times, myself, when I've read a chapter or a fic that *really* moved me or just contained so much emotion/plot, and then I see a review that goes "omg that was so good! write more" or something. Then I'm sort of like...couldn't you write *more* than that? Is there nothing else you could *say*?? And often I won't even know the author, so it's not personal at all. It's just me and my sense of...justness? I don't know.

And - I can see what you mean with recs, although I'm guilty of doing it myself. But it makes sense - if you're reccing something, shouldn't you sort of review it? Explain what's good about it, so that people go to read? I mean, there are alot of fics there, seeing a review that says "This is really good, go read!" isn't necessarily going to make me go unless I know more about the fic.

So you're not alone. Perhaps we both need a new hobby? Although I rather like it here. :P

[bookshop.livejournal.com]

I am without question one of the 100% positive squee-filled reviewers, on occasion after occasion.

This is because I never ever have time to give critical thoughtful feedback anymore. I just *don't*. This is the same reason why it's rare for me to get involved in really at-length LJ debates; i just don't have the time to sit and compile and organize my thoughts into a clear argumentative framework. I like to state things once and then not come back to it. For me, reccing a fic is my way of saying to a writer that I really respect their work or what they did in this particular moment. If I don't have time to feedback your story, but I rec it, I consider it a fair trade-off, because even though I didn't leave you a review, maybe I'm sending you ten other people who will.

I console myself with the knowledge that out of twenty or thirty squee-only reviews/feedback that I give, I'll give one intelligent, substantive review. Eventually, if you're one of the people whose fics I like, whose writing I come back to again and again, you'll get one of the latter from me.

And of course, hypocritically, I crave thoughtful critique--even and always negative critique included--of my own writing.

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

ehehehe you've got to be like, the one person who takes up the 2% of the people who -don't- annoy me with it. ehehehe >:D
but the people on armchair are like... really driving me up the wall right now. *cringes*
i miss the good old days of the shalott month. hee. i mean, it's hard for the average fangirl to go, "OMG, SHALOTT! SHE R0XORZ MY S0X0RZ!!11!"... thank god ><;;
but then, i'm bitter ever since olympia's month and i think i was like, the only one who said anything ^^;

it's cool to have a life, you know. i really dig the idea. damn, this makes me sort of embarrassed now~:) mostly, i myself don't -mean- to go on and on, i just can't seem to help it. my mouth is left permanently in the "run-on" position, apparently ><;;

hehehe, also, It's Good To Be Queen, and i dig that too~:) i wish i had *cough*minions*cough* er... fans who'd help me out by reviewing for me >:D
and now i'm all pleased 'cause i think there -was- a time or two (maybe) that you've left me longish reviews :D :D

[bookshop.livejournal.com]

Dude, I know I've left you long reviews, don't you remember that one time when I OHMIGOD QUICK LOOK OVER THERE!

:-"

haha, i'm still embarrassed and bitter about olympia's month. i'm still trying to come up with words to review olympia. :D dammit. i am in a constant state of embarrassment about Olympia's month (January, sigh).

but i'm seriously glad that my reviews don't annoy you--sometimes they annoy me because there's so much more i want to say but i know that i don't have time to really get into what i'm thinking and feeling, and if i try to dash off a critique it'll end up feeling fake, whereas i can always dash off a gleeful squee, because with me those are never fake.

and, er, well, eep. i didn't mean to imply that i was trying to say that, oh dear. what i mean is that, i don't rec everything i read--and i don't rec everything that i review. but more often than not i won't review what i rec, if that makes sense. i'll just read it and put it in the fic rec list and then usually wind up giving some kind of mini-review when i rec it. it's not that i consider myself to be sending hordes of fangirls out to read the fics i rec--i didn't mean that at all.

I just mean that there are people whose fic recs i will always bookmark just because i know that they have good taste--and since i aspire to be one of those people who generally only recs decent fics (though personal loyalties occasionally lead me to rec fics that i wouldn't otherwise rec with the rest *looks guilty*), I consider reccing a fic to be the highest mark of my opinion of it, and I figure if I rec your fic I'm not necessarily obligated to review it.

Wah,now I think i am making even less sense than before. *piddles about making messes*

[spare-change.livejournal.com]

Aja, I agree that it is way too much time to write a thoughtful review of every fic you read. And so I too often substitute a rec for a longer review, although I usually do try to let folks know when I've especially liked something they've written.

But it's important to me, with any fic I take halfway seriously, to always point out at least one thing I think can be improved. Because, like Reenka, I tend to read reviews that are 100% positive as pretty meaningless, whether reading or receiving them. I need to let the author know both what worked for me and what didn't, so that she can weigh both of them in deciding whether or not my fb is going to be something that is going to be useful for her.

Similarly, when reccing, I try to be pretty clear in distinguishing between the fics I love because Lucius is fucking Harry up the butt nonconsensually (YAY!), and the fics I love because I think they're beautifully conceived, narrated, and constructed. Even if I don't say more than that, I try to make that distinction clear ... between the fun trash fics we all love and the ones that demand respect and leave you reeling for days afterwards. It's only fair, I think, to let the folks who might read something 'cos I recced it know what they're in for.

So I have to say that I spent a pretty miserable evening downloading onto my PDA all those fics you recced in your last big H/D rec update. Almost every single one of them sucked to the point of absolute unreadability. (I won't say EVERY one of them, but nearly all of them.) And I'm not saying this to be gratuitiously bitchy, either ... I wouldn't have said this at all if not in the context of the current discussion. It would've been cool if you could've given us a heads-up about which ones made you squee because they satisfied a particular kink (and there's nothing wrong with that), and which ones you genuinely thought were good stories. Because I'm always looking for new fics to read and have been on a massive H/D kick lately anyway, and so slogging through one abysmal fic after another last week was NO FUN AT ALL. The fact that you didn't give us enough information to figure out whether these fics would appeal to anyone save the most rabid H/D shipper ended up wasting a lot of my reading time, which means that unfortunately I probably won't have the patience to give a chance to any of the next batch of authors you rec.

Which may not be such a big disservice to ME, but certainly is a disservice to THESE AUTHORS, to lose a potential readership by being lumped in with such tripe as All Bets Are Off and that ilk. So I do suggest to you making a distinction between fun fics and quality fics in your next update, or at least providing enough commentary/criticism for us to be able to figure out which category the fics fall into ourselves.

Please, Aja. Every time you tell us to read a bad FA fic, God kills a kitten.

[bookshop.livejournal.com]

I totally understand what you're saying and in part I agree with your pov. Let me just say in my defense that it took hours to make that fic post. Some of those fics I had been keeping in my to-rec list since MAY; i had to track some of them down because they were 404's; some of them i had to read and go 'what the fuck was i thinking?' plus all the CODING. it was MISERY-INDUCING. by the time i was through you're lucky you got any description at ALL out of me.

Also, I tend to feel that if I love a fic--and I just love All Bets Are Off, and I don't think the writing is half bad--then I shouldn't really have to explain *why* I love it. At the same token there are often things that I want to rec with strong reservations, but I don't feel comfortable saying what I *don't* like about a fic in public. I really really don't. This is in part, as I think I've said before, because I get paid money to write negative reviews about things, and I can be incredibly scathing when I want to be, at least in terms of describing what I don't like about something. I don't necessarily want to indulge negative critiques when I'm reccing things because, well, it's really hard knowing that my opinions carry weight and that I can hurt feelings even when I'm trying to be sincerely helpful.

Really, I'm still just wary because of an *extremely* negative experience betaing for somebody who I really respected as a person but whose writing I had (and still have) serious issues with, many moons ago. Ever since then I just have not wanted to go into details saying what I like and don't like. There's one author among my friends list who I've been trying to get up the courage to send an email to in order to give what I think is some much-needed critique for MONTHS and I just can't bring myself to do it. I always come back to the whole 'why upset them when you could just suck it up and enjoy the parts of their writing you *do* like?' Of course the downside of that is that I am enjoying their writing less and less these days.

I do sincerely apologize for all the discomfort you suffered through, S. I rec fics primarily for the general H/D audience and then I'll throw in fics along with them that everyone will like and not explain what the difference is or what my thought process is. So I know that's a problem.

But goddammit! all that CODE! No promises, okay? NO BLOODY PROMISES!

on a completely tangentially-related note, ihopeyoulikemyficformaya.

[bookshop.livejournal.com]

dammit, what happened to the part where i apologized for killing all the kittens?

stupid LJ. *sulks*

Re: commenting on old posts RULZ

[bookshop.livejournal.com]

Dear S,

This comment having weighed greatly on my mind over the last however many months or so, and presuming you get comments emailed to you so that you will see this and Reena will not think I am an idiot, I just wanted you to know that when I went about my latest round of fic recs (http://www.livejournal.com/users/wayfairer/393899.html), I tried very hard to use a system that would be both analytical and descriptive, so that I could subtly give you a good idea of what you would find enjoyable, and what you would understand was mainly a shipper's delight. I think specifying a recommended audience worked well in this regard; however I am still fingernail biting over using a star rating.

So I am come to ask you what you think.

Also, I am come to declare, meekly, that there are many old posts from you that I have in my memories that I can no longer read because I am not on the right filter anymore. Wah. I hope this isn't rude of me, because I am not sure what the LJ etiquette for this is since obviously I could see them at *some* point, but I should like very much to be able to read them again. Baby, I just want you to love me.

[justapresence.livejournal.com]

Mm. Respectively, I tend to think any review at all is a good thing. I mean, it can't be a bad thing, yes? When you're getting time as well as critism (on rare occasions, yes, if you're lucky)/ reviews, I tend to think of it as a good thing.

So, others tend to review differently from some others. They tend to say, 'oooh, I liked this soo much' and the like. At least you know that:
It was acceptable and some are reading it.

I used to review like that because I simply didn't have time. At least I reviewed, yes? I now know how to review, therefore my words and the like are different.

I can, of course, see from your POV about this and I, myself, love positive, Con Crit and lengthy paragraphs of reviews. Who wouldn't?

My 2 knuts <3.

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

hmm... I think we need to differentiate reviews and feedback.
Feedback can be a sentence or two of "OMG LOVE!!" and that's fine, people don't have time, it's okay.
A review is something you write for people -other- than the other to read and judge a fic based upon. A didn't say "rec" 'cause a rec could just be a link, whereas a review says something about a fic.

So this doesn't really have to do with the author. It has to do with people -pimping- the author to readers at large.
People squeeing -about- the author -to- the author doesn't piss me off, otherwise I'd be one pissed-off!reena rather a lot of the time -.-

heee~:)

[bookshop.livejournal.com]

It has to do with people -pimping- the author to readers at large.

so are you talking specifically about fic reccing? you're saying you'd rather not see a squeeing "everybody go read this!" on your friends list?

It seems to me that leaves either a blatant no-comments attached list of fic recs ("things to read: 1) 2) 3), etc") or detailed critiques along with fic recs.

i only *wish* that i could say what i really felt about many of the fics i rec. but it seems to me that a fic *rec* is not the time to give constructive criticism to the author--the time to do that is in a review--preferably a private review so nobody can attack you for it except the author.

but then, i'm really paranoid about giving honest constructive feedback that is in any way negative.

wanky thoughts from a pretentious squee-er

[mark356.livejournal.com]

Oh dear. I so see where you're coming from, and it feels like it's for me. (Most of the following will be about my weekly fanfic posts (http://www.livejournal.com/users/mark356/23477.html), because those are lists of fics I've read every week, some of which I actually like; I'm sorry!) I used to click the back button and say to myself, "This never happened, I did not just read that, I never heard about that ficlet," even when I was nearly at the end of a ficlet if I really wasn't enjoying it, because that way I wouldn't have to publicly diss an author on my weekly fanfic post. Especially when the author or recommender of the ficlet in question is reading it (which is a lot of the time now!), I don't want to put very much negativity into those posts, because I don't want them to feel insulted. And nowadays I'm only listing about 80% of the fanfic I read (about 60% this coming Wednesday, because I've read a fair amount of fic) so that I don't need to do the hit-the-back-button-and-tell-yourself-it-never-happened thing, which makes them more like plug lists than ever.

And I must say that I do like advertising. Many ads are amusing, balanced in composition or tone or color, well-put-together, convincing, even beautiful. A television ad is like a little movie; they develop settings, characters, and plots, and often have conflics and resolutions, as well as plugging the product or whatever it is. If I'm watching a taped show, speeding past the ads, and I come across an ad for a VW, I will watch that ad, often several times. I do not hate ads, and this probably comes through with my recs.

But I completely agree with your point that a good rec must be descriptive. My personal pet peeve is those endless recs lists where a person says, "Here's a list of fics I love." A list of links, often to very long fics, like the DT, with little or no description, follows. I never want to read anything from those lists; I want a reason to read something besides the fact that you love it! (In fact, I will rant about this in my own journal shortly.) Part of my weekly fanfic posts are a reaction against those; I should be able to at least summarize it and find some positive adjectives that fit the ficlet well, even if I can't give a true, in-depth review.

So most of my weekly fanfic posts describe fics, even recommended fics, like this: "an evocative mediation in the present tense from Remus, including thoughts on Sirius, Tonks, and silver." I took five minutes thinking of that! (That referred to this drabble (http://www.livejournal.com/users/rhoddlet/195875.html?mode=reply) by rhoddlet, btw.) Most ficlets are not, or do not deserve the description "evocative meditation," but this one certainly does, and I hope that at least listing some of the things that go on in the ficlet as well would encourage anyone vaguely interested in them to click the link and at least give it a chance.

For fics that I really recommend, not just the ones I've read through each week, I still try to describe all of the positive aspects of them. Hopefully I can describe specific enough positive aspects so that people who will honestly be squicked won't read, and anyone else who might enjoy it will. But I hope that if something truly has a lot going for it, a lot of people should read it, and will enjoy it; the only reasons not to would be matters of taste. My whole family read and enjoyed sociofemme's slash!Hogwarts Mary Sue parody (http://www.livejournal.com/users/mctabby/111418.html?mode=reply); it is a masterpiece of over-the-top language, stilted rhythm, and a Mary Sue in a blatantly slashy world that she doesn't comprehend. I don't know how to rec this in a way that doesn't describe it like that!

On your final notes, I wish I could follow your advice, and I should probably try it. It's hard enough to describe every ficlet I read, with a bit of a summary and a few well-chosen adjectives, even without being objective and critical! Yay for plugs that show that the one plugging has read the fic in question and thought about it.

~:)

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

I don't think I hate ads, exactly. Some ads are beautiful. I totally adore the Skittles commercials, and that shampoo... with the witches and things... forgot the name. But anyway, yeah, I love them because they're un-commercial-like, I think, which is probably their sekrit plan. Have people forget it's a commercial. Careful product placement, etc. Heh.

It bothers me applying it to talking about literature at -all-, in theory.

I think your recs are thought-out and honest, which is all anyone can ask for. I mean, I may quibble about style as far as not saying "brilliant" more than 3 times, but there's a limit even to -my- pickiness. Well-chosen adjectives is 80% there. The only other thing is er.... not to be too authoritative/stuck-up about it. Which is a hard concept to pin down. I know it when I see it, though. You know, some reccers sound like... way too serious. And then they rec garbage. And I'm like, OMG U R SO STUPID!!1
or something ><

[lasultrix.livejournal.com]

I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE CALL EACH OTHER GODDESSES JESUS CHRIST IT'S A FIC, A PIECE OF FIC, AND HALF THE TIME IT SUCKS ANYWAY, AND YOU SOUND LIKE YOU'RE COMPLETELY BRAINDEAD, COMPLETELY PATHETIC AND TRYING TO GET THEM INTO BED INTO THE BARGAIN ARGH!

>:D

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

heeeeee. right on, sistah >:D<



*supports you in your goddess-like rage* :D :D

Re: ~~ wank.

[sarahtales.livejournal.com]

Some days I realise I picked the entirely wrong public forum to be happily overenthused and hyperbolic and amused at myself in.
Because there are people who are *seriously like that* in here.

[sistermagpie.livejournal.com]

Whenever I review something, even with just a line, I always feel like I need to say *something* specific about why I liked it, because I like all fics for such different reasons. If I like it I always want to say *why* because that's part of my enthusiasm.

Since I like to actually think about it, there's really just a few WIPs that I have set myself the task of remembering to review regularly. If I happen to discover the fic from the beginning I usually wait a bit to see where it's going before I decide whether I can trust it's something that I really want to devote time to reviewing.

I'm weird with negative feedback. On one hand, I think it's a great thing and I've certainly given it to people outside of the 'net on stories. Usually, though, I prefer to review fics I like and mostly expound on what I like about them, what worked for me, how I saw the fic working. I think that can be constructive criticism in itself because it's breaking down the story and saying, "this is how it seems like this is working, this scene made me think this, which led to this, etc." Or maybe I just like analyzing! Sometimes I probably do include negative feedback, but it's more of a question: "This part made me think X but later I was confused..." or whatever.

If I have a really negative reaction to a story I'll usually want to rant about it to myself. Like...I feel like if I read a fic I don't like because I disagree with the authors interpretation of canon I don't feel like it's necessarily constructive to go into that because that's like story-conferencing: Draco isn't like that, he's like this, so he should do that... I met one of the people on my friends list because I was literally ranting about her fic in another place, not knowing that somebody else on the thread who had loved the fic and recced it and gone to her and said, "We're talking about your fic! Come see!"

Man, I felt so stupid! Not because I denied anything I thought but because I was so ranting in a way I didn't intend for the author to hear for the above reasons. I was arguing with the whole point of the story. Luckily throughout my ranting I had been (imo) respectful of the author herself, who wrote very well, and made it clear this story just got under my skin because it said things I didn't like to hear...but it was still really embarassing! Luckily, too, she was somebody who didn't only want to hear rave reviews and could appreciate a strong reaction of any kind.

So in general I figure lj is a hobby, a place where I choose what I want to contribute and what I like doing is pointing to people I think are doing something special and saying how it effected me and encouraging them in concrete ways. One thing, too, is I know I'm always honest in what I'm saying. If somebody's saying everything is the best fic ever well, you pretty much know they don't really mean that literally!

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

Hee. I totally dig what you're saying-- I don't do negative reviews much either (if at all), and I wasn't really saying that people have to go from "OMG STORY-GASM" to like... harsh con-crit. There's a happy middle ground there somewhere. And like... the people who bother me -don't- say anything specific... and that's what bothers me. In fact, from the way they talk, I don't think they even -realize- it's hyperbole, and I do believe they -do- mean it literally, because they are just that into their own hype.

I mean... I would never get irritated -that- much that people don't seriously crit stories (mine or others) especially in forums for discussion like say...oh... Armchair (*seethes*). It's to be expected, people don't have time or energy, blahblah. But to take the time to say -something- and to then say pat hyperbolic bullshit pisses me right off, man.

If the person who introduced Cinnamon's fics on Armchair wants to say she didn't mean it, she can go right ahead, but I doubt she will :/

[mhari.livejournal.com]

Interesting. *looks thoughtfully at her recs-update-in-embryo*

Has anybody metablogged this yet?

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

heheh. this is amusing, how i've made random people feel semi-guilty~:) my own recs page is just a list of links, btw. can't be bothered to blurb the 100+ fics on there, man.

and no one has. *cringes at idea of onslaught of comments to reply to* ~:)

[shatterglass.livejournal.com]

*hides*

:D

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

it's okay, i won't hurt you :>



mwuwahahahahah. *coughs*

freehosting.. not too much checking..

[unstasis.livejournal.com]

Only seven more comments till reena reaches triple digit coments. You can do it. Go!!!!!