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Jan. 9th, 2004 02:52 pm
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Ron is Dumbledore.

Holy crap, holy crap, holy -crap-!!

If he isn't, there had best be some fancy footwork by JKR, what with all this stacked up in the favor of that (admittedly nutty-sounding) idea. When I first saw the kicker in [livejournal.com profile] ixchelmala & [livejournal.com profile] lizardlaugh's theory, I was like, "!!! ...no" of course. But.

Now all I can think of is Ron's broken wand in CoS, and what a sadly underdeveloped unserious typical-boy wizard he is, and how quietly jealous he is of others' abilities and fame and so on, how overshadowed he feels by his brothers. Poor Ron, right, always in the sidelines.

It would be perfect. PERFECT. If Ron turned out to... well... be the greatest (and least serious!) wizard alive (even though the time-travel idea still hurts my head).

God, I love him. My mind is completely blown. Completely. I never read all the silly canon-predicting theories. I mean. Who cares, really. I'm not a plot-obsessed person, anyway, more into characterization. But. This has such -huge- consequences for characterization. It blows my mind.

Holy crap. Dumbledore really did refer to their relationship in the past tense in OoTP. "Had ever been", indeed. Gah. It was this that really clinched it for me. How else could you explain that? I just want to see someone explain that some other way, man. 'Cause otherwise-- DUDE. RON! If it's not true, it should be.

I always thought that Dumbledore's love for Harry was a little... much. Like. Why does he love him so much? Why? HOLY CRAP. And Dumbledore sees himself holding a pair of socks in Erised, and if socks symbolize mother-love, wah!! Omg. He-- omg, he must really have missed his mother. :((

WEASLEY IS MY KING!

Date: 2004-01-09 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spare-change.livejournal.com
<3333

Whether or not the theory ends up proving correct, it's stuff like this that keeps me in fandom. *hugs fellow obsessives* Wanking on canon is such a more pleasant use of time than bnf deathmatches and all the rest of it.

Date: 2004-01-09 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scizo-frenic.livejournal.com
I know! My mind is so freaking boggled its presently mush and leaking out my ears! At first I couldn't believe what they were saying, but then it starting make a weird sort of sense. If this is true...JK Rowling is a genius and Ix and LizardLaugh are brilliant for figuring it out.

Date: 2004-01-09 12:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eleveninches.livejournal.com
See, Ron rules all. :>

Date: 2004-01-09 01:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] novembersnow.livejournal.com
I am completely enthralled by this theory. I want to grab my novels and re-read all weekend, looking at the series in a whole new way. The whole idea is so sneaky, so devious, so completely logical and illogical at the same time, it's brilliant. I love it.

And, seriously, the sock thing almost made me cry.

Date: 2004-01-09 01:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] morganmuffle
Don't you just love how many people have jumped on this! My flist has suddenly exploded in canon love. Guess this was just what we needed :-D
I'm off to reread some stuff and see how far the theory holds up...

Date: 2004-01-09 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bekkle.livejournal.com
amazing amazing amazing. the sock thing was so profound. it made me all choked up. i really hope this is true. if not, i'll kill JK. and if so, I'll kill the writers of the theory for giving it away. ehehhehehe.

and the eye color thing-- that's intriguing, as well as the auburn hair. just wow wow wow.

*elated*

Date: 2004-01-09 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazy-daze.livejournal.com
Yes, that was exactly my reaction! Normally I don't bother with canon theories cause most of them are too crackpot, but this? I so want it to be true, it just seems to *work*, and omg, Ronlove. And socks!!

Date: 2004-01-09 03:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com
Holy crap. Dumbledore really did refer to their relationship in the past tense in OoTP. "Had ever been", indeed. Gah. It was this that really clinched it for me. How else could you explain that?

That Dumbledore is saying it was not only important that he be only Harry's headmaster that year, but that he should also cover up the fact that he has been more than a headmaster to him for the past five years.

-m (prefers Ron as Ron with his own personality and his own hair color--red, not auburn, but loves people for coming up thinking this stuff anyway)

Date: 2004-01-09 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ljash.livejournal.com
ha. HA. Ok. That sorta blew my mind as well. I mean, there's no way in hell it can be true but, wow. There was a lot of evidence that made some kind of sense in there. There was a lot that seemed like a stretch, too. I'm not sure what to make of the "has ever been" but it seems like there could be various interpretations. I thought he was saying that if V. finds out they were close, or had ever been close, then Harry was in greater danger. But in retrospect that doesn't make complete sense.

hee... this is very strange. Now I kinda want to reread them, too, and try to force this interpretation and see what happens. When I have the time I think I might do this.

The sock thing was odd. All I could think of was "Dark Side of Light" and I'm having difficulty getting back on track. Also, I glanced at the linked essay and it seemed to have no basis in reality. But there are a lot of socks floating around in that story, I do have to agree with that point.

hee. This is just insane. I'll have to reread it when I'm more awake.

Date: 2004-01-09 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darklites.livejournal.com
Ha ha, I think I have read waaay too many of these theories. (I remember reading one about how the 7 'challenges' the Trio faced in PS/SS symbolised each of the seven books, too!) But this one seems quite well-researched. Still...

I'm having trouble with Harry's "hesitation" after Ron says he has to sacrifice himself, that the essay seems to link to Harry's hesitation as it starts in fifth year. If this ("Harry's last move. We feel this move is symbolic of the last three books.") is true, why does Ron sacrificing himself & Hermione taking out the white bishop happen before it? There are a coule of links that seem a little shady to me as well (like the one about Ron's taking out two white pieces to Save H&Hr a reflection of the troll incident in PS/SS, which is really a team effort with him and Harry). Also, where is Snape?? He is a *very* important part of it all, but why does he not have a mentioned piece?

(Draco/Hermione is definitely not happening--although some kind of other connection isn't ruled out though--because I remember JKR's comment about not wanting to say because she "didn't want to ruin the fan sites" when someone asked her if there would be unusual pairings, specifically like D/Hr. And I always thought that it couldn't because due to POV issues it wouldn't have time to develop enough to be plausible.)

Ron=Dumbledore just hurts my brain (even without the time travel!). I agree with [livejournal.com profile] sistermagpie that it's depressing, and I like Ron too. But it feels like it's upending everything, and it just boggles the mind to the extent that it kind of alienates the reader. I am not sure if JKR will really go for this. Still, the thing that makes me hesitant is the interview where she said there was "one thing" that was "at the heart of it all" that no one had guessed yet (and would be a little annoyed if they did). I figured that had to do with the Prophecy and why Voldemort wanted to kill Harry and all, though. But this would be a big thing that nobody's guessed yet, hee. But yeah. I still don't really think so. I feel like this kind of thing will really take away from the whole point of the series, and shift the focus off of it too much. Right, I have talked myself out of believing it, lol. But it's a pretty good theory.

Date: 2004-01-10 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahtales.livejournal.com
I KNOW OMG I WAS GRABBING HOLD OF LAS AND CLEPSYDRA AND BEN AND MICHELLE AT THE T00BGAE LAST NIGHT GOING 'RON IS! DUMBLEDORE!' and ahd, and I laughed so scornfully when I read the premise, but dude, dude! It *could* be true!
it so could be!
I'd be so terribly impressed with JKR.
Although I'd be sad, sad, terribly sad, because I love Ron now, and my Ron love was a painful and painstakingly acquired thing, and it would sadden me if he grew up to be such a gimboid.

Date: 2004-01-10 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenparakeet.livejournal.com
ok, i typically am one to avoid reading predictions and speculations as to what is going to go down in the upcoming books, but this. . . this is incredible. and so entirely plausible, and it makes sense, and OMG SOCKS. the image of dumbledore-who-is-really-past-ron wishing for socks damn near breaks my heart.

i remember some prediction that i stoutheartedly wanted to avoid but wound up hearing anyway, much to my chagrin. . . having something to do with hermione's name and something of a love triangle. . . maybe this is how the "claiming" of the white bishop (aka draco) takes place? otherwise, that's the only part i'm having a nick of difficulty accepting readily. and if that is the case, oh no. i can see draco/hermione, but. . . harry/draco, man!!!

the only prediction i was holding to prior to this "enlightenment" was the parallel between harry & draco and james & snape. draco seems present enough in the series that he would play some small, key role towards the end. my guess was that the occurrence of certain events would lead to him being indebted to harry, much in the way snape became indebted to james for saving his life.

. . . and now the word "indebted" is instigating all sorts of x-rated scenarios in my brain. oh dear.

*runs off to gush at [livejournal.com profile] ixchelmala and [livejournal.com profile] lizardlaugh*
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