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[reenka]

Ron is Dumbledore.

Holy crap, holy crap, holy -crap-!!

If he isn't, there had best be some fancy footwork by JKR, what with all this stacked up in the favor of that (admittedly nutty-sounding) idea. When I first saw the kicker in ixchelmala & lizardlaugh's theory, I was like, "!!! ...no" of course. But.

Now all I can think of is Ron's broken wand in CoS, and what a sadly underdeveloped unserious typical-boy wizard he is, and how quietly jealous he is of others' abilities and fame and so on, how overshadowed he feels by his brothers. Poor Ron, right, always in the sidelines.

It would be perfect. PERFECT. If Ron turned out to... well... be the greatest (and least serious!) wizard alive (even though the time-travel idea still hurts my head).

God, I love him. My mind is completely blown. Completely. I never read all the silly canon-predicting theories. I mean. Who cares, really. I'm not a plot-obsessed person, anyway, more into characterization. But. This has such -huge- consequences for characterization. It blows my mind.

Holy crap. Dumbledore really did refer to their relationship in the past tense in OoTP. "Had ever been", indeed. Gah. It was this that really clinched it for me. How else could you explain that? I just want to see someone explain that some other way, man. 'Cause otherwise-- DUDE. RON! If it's not true, it should be.

I always thought that Dumbledore's love for Harry was a little... much. Like. Why does he love him so much? Why? HOLY CRAP. And Dumbledore sees himself holding a pair of socks in Erised, and if socks symbolize mother-love, wah!! Omg. He-- omg, he must really have missed his mother. :((

Comments

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

heheh, oh man, this really shows how much I trust your opinion. 'Cause I immediately sat up & went, "no you're right. no". eheheh!!
*feels abashed*
I know what you mean, but like they said... how were they more than pupil & headmaster?
I mean, does Harry really love him as more than a headmaster? And I mean, clearly Dumbledore does love him more than he would a "normal" student, but like I said, that's always seemed off or weird to me. I know he's James & Lily's child, and Dumbledore was involved in that whole mess & placing him at the Dursley's... but... I mean... was he that close to James & Lily?

It. I don't know. Seems... a bit too convenient for him to love Harry? Like, everyone loves Harry. The headmaster's favorite. It's just. I dunno... prolly the sort of thing that makes people resent Harry and/or Dumbledore and question his judgement. 'Cause Dumbledore has always behaved on the edge of unreasonably when it came to Harry & treating him as a pupil he's supposed to look after, y'know? He always thought Harry should learn things on his own, and the hard way, at that-- and, I mean. I trust Dumbledore, but it's still... questionable. It has room.

What I meant was, how is their relationship more? I mean. Is it just James & Lily & that whole aspect of things? If so, why would... I mean, it doesn't really explain it. I'm torn.

But yes. Heee. I would kind of also prefer Ron to be Ron. It's simpler that way~:)) Ron is Ron is Ron.
But I like the Ron Is A Great And Powerful Wizard idea. I want him to be special somehow~:)

[sistermagpie.livejournal.com]

Well, you should know I'm hardly objective on this. I find the idea of Ron being Dumbledore incredibly depressing! Ron lecturing Harry on how Sirius kind of brought his death on himself. Ron blubbing about how he wanted Harry to have a nice life. Ron placing Harry with the Dursleys. Ron lying to Harry "for his own good." Ron placing Harry over other students knowing his own struggles with being overlooked. Ron awarding himself points for Gryffindor at the end of PS/SS (yeah, he might do that, but it kind of erases the victory at the end of PS/SS completely). These kinds of things with Dumbledore erase completely in a way that makes me very sad. Where's straightforward Ron and Ron's sense of honor? I honestly have a hard time believing Dumbledore could ever be the kind of friend Ron is. When I picture Ron in 50 years, I don't picture Dumbledore at all.

Also, two words: Hermione/Dumbledore. ::shudder:: (And doesn't why he seem as fond of Hermione as he is of Harry? Seems to me Hermione/Dumbledore scenes would be ELECTRIC if he was a grown-up Ron. He's an old man beholding his first crush again. Not to mention the Weasleys--wouldn't he be fonder of them?)

I know what you mean, but like they said... how were they more than pupil & headmaster?

I would definitely say they were, particularly on Dumbledore's side. Remember most students probably never see Dumbledore. Dumbledore has had more than one quasi-father/son talk with Harry. The kind of talk that I would hope he would never have with Ron, btw.

Also, I'm not expert on True Crime but there are a couple of cases I've gotten obsessed with over time so I've read a lot of Big Theories about things in books. This is the way they work--you have a great theory that's inspired by something and makes for a great story, then you look for things to fit it. Like long fingers become big hands because they seem related. Or, even more crazily OTT, Ron doesn't like the color maroon because he will be "marooned" in time.

Now, about Ron being special--absolutely. I guess that's kind of why I don't like this idea. Ron isn't special to me in it, because he doesn't exist. He's just the pre-cursor to the already-special character, Dumbledore. I think what I like about Ron is that he is special because he doesn't have super powers, but that shows how competant he is. He's maturing, imo, possibly developing faster than either Harry's or Hermione in some ways because it's all he's got.

I hope I'm not being a big downer here! I just love Ron. And probably I also just don't want to know that much about the ending to the series! LOL!

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

That whole list with Ron-as-Dumbledore gave me shudders, man. *beams at you* I swear, you're great at this stuff. *admires your brain, but doesn't steal since Maya has dibs*
teehee.
Anyway, yes. That was brilliant. No, it doesn't work at all, and I think that worked wonderfully to make me reach that conclusion myself, whether or not you're biased~:) I mean, a 130-or-so years have probably passed, but. Anyway, it doesn't work. Like. No, the logistics & the details don't hold up. It's too much of a loose thread. You'd need a whole book to make it fit. And it doesn't, come to think of it in terms of everything it would involve. Yeah.

Not to mention being creepy~:)
Yeah, I know what you mean about people stretching things-- the "maroon" thing & the hands thing stuck out at me especially, and it's funny how one looks kindly upon these holes, whereas to be a serious theory it'd need to be able to pass with at least 90% success. I avoid Big Theories on principle, 'cause they're addictive and also usually wrong. Except I do have pet conspiracy theories, like Roswell & JFK, which I chew at sporadically, in my own mind. I try to get over it. Roswell, though, is stuck in my head. It was a UFO, man. *fanatic gleam*

You're not a downer at all. I don't think you -can- be. Go ahead and try. I don't think it'd be very easy, if you -could- do it :D ♥
And yes. I do love Ron's power being his will & his strategic mind and dedicated heart. Although. The divining still attracts me. Just 'cause. It'd be cool~:)) People who say Ron isn't smart enough for Hermione are ON SO MUCH CRACK :D :D!!

[chresimos.livejournal.com]

You know, I agree with you. I don't think Ron = Dumbledore is true (although anything's possible, I suppose, but I have reservations on other points), but if it was true, I would be very upset, because the idea is so depressing. Ron! Trapped in time! Doomed to relive all the most painful years of his life and yet being unable to do anything about it! So much woe. :(