I know this is silly of me, but I'm just wondering....
Are there actually people who read the HP books and go, 'omg, Harry is such a wuss, especially compared to Draco Malfoy'.
You know, Harry. The one who always runs and hides and cries in Malfoy'sskirts leather trousers at first opportunity. Except for all those times he kicks his ass. But he doesn't really mean to do that, see, it's just an accident.
...And then they go on to write bottom!Harry/Draco.
Is that how it works?
Are there actually people who read the HP books and go, 'omg, Harry is such a wuss, especially compared to Draco Malfoy'.
You know, Harry. The one who always runs and hides and cries in Malfoy's
...And then they go on to write bottom!Harry/Draco.
Is that how it works?
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Date: 2005-09-05 04:56 am (UTC)Doves are fantastic and I think I've talked with you before about them? Or if not, they just seem like a very Reena band, somehow. I don't know. :)
AND YES. That is post-HPB Harry to me, SO MUCH, the way you described him. ♥ ♥ ♥ I think it took me a while to..adjust, sort of, to all the stuff that was going on in HBP and the way he had to change and grow up, and I was so busy being heart-achey for him that I kind of forgot, well, it's HARRY, and I love him so much.
AHAHA, I think I kind of realized early on that, like, no one writes H/D the way I want ('cause I'm a horribly picky bitch?) so that's maybe why I stopped reading. I'm not sure, but. I think I basically got turned off by fic ages ago, even though I don't quite know when or why, and lately I've been all woeful 'cause I want to read something but. Just. There's nothing! (Well, I'm sure there is, but I wouldn't know since I haven't been looking :P!) I haven't read anything at all post-HBP and it'd be interesting to see how people's perspectives have changed, but, then again. Um. I might still be scared...? WHO KNOWS. :P
And I think there's a lot of room for the violent factor in H/D, still, even after HBP. I mean, I'm writing something now (or, um, trying to, as it's currently scaring me senseless) but. Yeah, like, the Sectumsempra bit in HBP, I...er...sort of thought was pretty hot, which. Clearly not many other people did! But then, I'm an original, and, like. AND YET. I STILL THINK IT'S HOT OKAY. :P
I don't know, I've never thought of Love Will Tear Us Apart as being bouncy & cute; more the needy bit. Like, I think it's so sad. I sort of "rediscovered" it last year, after not having heard it for several years, and I was all WAH for a long time after listening. I don't know, I think it's just that I associate the video with it, which makes me feel all sad and, just. Ian Curtis's voice, man! And! Joy Division were emo-before-there-was-an-emo. HOT. BUT YAY, it's so awesome that it's one of your H/D songs and, yes, #1 Crush is totally one of my H/D songs, too! It's our crazy cosmic soundtrack wavelength! :P!
I totally understand your burn-out and, dude, if you don't want to write it or read H/D, you totally, totally shouldn't feel obligated to. I'll be woeful not being able to talk about it as much with you, but! Clearly we are cut out to talk about greater things! :)! And more than that, you totally deserve/need time away from the sheer madness. Just throw me a life raft before you leave, or else I'll be stuck out here in the middle of the craziness with no escape! :P
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Date: 2005-09-05 05:16 am (UTC)Yeah, I'm getting to that 'but it's HARRY' point with HBP!Harry too, though really I forgave JKR for leaving out the Sirius stuff even while reading... though it messed with most of my own characterizations. Prolly I'd have figured it out myself if I wrote more plotty fic where Harry needed to deal with stuff happening... and stuff. If you want the one plotty H/D I've heard good things about, try `Finer Than Spring (http://www.livejournal.com/~lashajayne/490.html)'-- tell me how it goes, I guess...??
And it's not that the lyrics of Love Will Tear Us Apart are bouncy, but the music itself isn't violent/loud like the other songs I listed, and it has a bouncy beat, y'know? And I believe I mentioned this, but I'm so with you on Sectumsempra being hot... but then I'm... uh... different, well all know that. ^^;; But at least I'm not alone! :D! I was sort of in a daze while reading it... like, 'omg, I did not just read that... omg o_0', though I was already dazed and reeling from the rest of the book. I was like 'omg *grabs another chocolate*' the whole time hehehe :D
Haha, even when I'm totally burnt out on H/D, some people are still fun to talk to about it :D 'Cause I never leave any interest entirely behind, y'know, and some people one just keeps talking about stuff with even when you're officially 'through'... and like, I still have my novella-in-progress, y'know :> But I like the bit about being cut out for... pickles? 'Cause I like me some pickles and I can't lie....
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Date: 2005-09-05 05:33 am (UTC)though really I forgave JKR for leaving out the Sirius stuff even while reading
OMG PLS NOT TO MENTION THAT THANK YOU. I'm still very angsty! Especially, like, the part where Dumbledore and Harry were in the broom closet, or whatever, outside the Weasley's, and I was like, PLEASE CRY HARRY OKAY. So sad. :(
I'll maybe try to read that one? I mean, um. Now that I've said I want to read fic, I'm kind of scared to, somehow. Which probably makes no sense. But thanks!
Ah, I see what you mean, about the music. It does have this deceptively bouncy sort of beat, not really happy, but like, yeah, I could bop my head to this. And then the lyrics are SHEER WOE. That's part of the draw! Or not! :P
See, I knew you'd understand about the Sectumsempra. IT IS REALLY REALLY HOT. SO HOT. Perhaps even hotter than Draco mashing Harry's nose but I'm not sure! I completely had to read that part twice over because I was all, WHAT NOW? OMG WHAAAT. And then I maybe giggled a little after I finished gaping, but I can't really recall. :P
I'm glad to hear you haven't given up on your novella, then. :) I'll be so happy for you when you've finished it.
Sure, we can talk about pickles. Why not. Or we could talk about not-pickles, because Did You Know that if you put cucumbers and mustard on a sandwich, it tastes the same as pickles! Little known fact! :P
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Date: 2005-09-05 05:58 am (UTC)I can totally now see Harry playing all this angsty modern Britrock as he goes on a roadtrip while Ron & Hermione are off doing research together... and he's on his own, right, that day, and the sun's shining harshly 'cause it's the end of November and he has to use Muggle means of transport 'cause he's trying to lay low and also ascertain the damage Voldy's doing by himself, and the leaves are blowing by the road and he thinks of Sirius and Dumbledore because it's so quiet and there's nothing else, and he looks like this (http://www.livejournal.com/users/gredandfeorge/71534.html), omg :((
...And he thinks of what will be left after the war, because he's alone and there's nothing to do but think and drive and remember, and he doesn't even notice that he's crying... and he can't imagine his life, afterwards, but he thinks of coming back to Grimmauld Place and getting Sirius' things in order.... And he thinks he'll draw up a will and leave everything to Ron and the Weasleys in case he dies.... And he'll tell Ron not to mess things up with Hermione, and he'll tell Ginny to just go on and not think about him and he'll say he's had a great adventure and he wouldn't have done it any other way, because this way he's been with them..... But then he'd smile, because he knows he'll be okay as long as they're with him... he doesn't need to worry, he just has a job to do.... And then he'd look up at the fading orange sun and up at the hill, where a lone house stood... and the dust would billow behind him as he drove faster and round the bend and he's gone....
The being scared to read makes total sense-- that's how I feel, ahahaha. If you want pre-HBP but guaranteed lovely slow-build and friendship and issues, read `Eclipse (http://www.schnoogle.com/authorLinks/PhoenixSong/Eclipse/)', which is like, the only H/D that's really -worked- for me in ages. Though no violent!sex. Woe. :((
...Now I really wanna try that, with the mustard & cucumbers. Good to know! :>
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Date: 2005-09-05 06:21 am (UTC)LISTEN TO IT A LOT. AND WRITE. When you have time, obviously! *attempts to coerce you omg*
Oh, my Harry. *sigh* It's funny, 'cause...I'm usually never more inspired to write Harry fic and/or H/D than when I'm talking to you. :D!
Besides all the Oasis and Doves stuff, I also see Harry as being an Elbow bloke. And also Thirteen Senses. And all the very moody/emotional great stuff that's coming out of the UK right now, 'cause clearly he's modern and hip! Or not. Ahahaha, really he's just a nerd, but. Ah, ♥.
I've heard about that fic before, and. I mean, I feel like I should read it, 'cause people are talking about it, and saying good things. But. I don't know. I'm really so lame. I'm all, must read fic! No, am far too angsty! I just need to, like, get a life this week and stop being so retarded and, you know, read fic if I'm in the mood to read fic, and. STOP BEING SO RETARDED. :P
You should try it! I mean, as it's so outrageously appetizing, I know. :P
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Date: 2005-09-05 06:45 am (UTC)But I can't like, break him up with Ginny to give him Draco or something, that's not what I'm talking about. I think, like... it would be a mistake he could make, because Draco draws him out, not to the happiness but to the pain, to the guilt and regret and the things he's used to, the paranoia and... competitiveness, his youth, y'know, and he knew what was what back then, but then he had to-- had to grow up and realize he was wrong, but I think he'd miss that... before. When he could look at Draco and just be angry and just not know about him having his own problems... I don't think Harry would really want to know... so if Malfoy obliged him, if he regressed too... then Harry could make that mistake, and leave the comfort/security/happiness of Ginny for the sharpness and the anger and the fists and wands and kissing too hard and leaving too early. And he'd feel so awful and it'd eat him up, but he'd be addicted to the pale skin and the bruises he leaves and the look in Malfoy's eyes, like he never forgave him, like none of the revelations and ceasefires have ever mattered, because he still hates him, still hisses insults at him, except they sound so broken and wrong, like a record with hitches in it, but they keep saying it, keep doing it because they have no other language, no other way to communicate....
Um. ^^;;;;; ahahahahahah I SHOULD STOP WITH THE RUFUS WAINWRIGHT BEFORE MY EMO BLOWS UP THE WORLD :))
I'm happy I inspire you, otherwise this'd be way too
masturbatorysad ^^;;;