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reenkaIt's only been a few days, and I'm already having HBP fandom moodswings, I think. Avoid, Reena. Avoid. And yet, so hard to constantly remain vigilant.
Okay, what I'm talking about is the unavoidable bitching about the latest canon & the renewed shipping wars and so on; I realize I've actually done some gloating myself at points, and now I sort of feel sickened of literally all ships (besides ones me &![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
addictedkitten made up yesterday-- that's sacred) and tired already. Meh.
There's only this icon to make me feel better:
R/Hr? If -sexual tension- was canon, Harry and Ron would be snogging by book 4. Snape and McGonagall would have four kids, and Voldemort would be -shagging Dumbledore-. Get over it.
Man. I LOVE MY FANON SHIP.
I like subtext. As subtext.
I mean, while there are H/D vibes in the latest book, there are also Snape/Draco vibes, Harry/Snape vibes, Dumbledore/Voldemort vibes, Harry/Ron/Hermione vibes-- even Harry/Blaise & Blaise/Ginny vibes if you squint. None of these I consider to be 'really there' outside hints built upon by the reader's imagination, nothing close to being likely to happen. Just because there is subtext in the mind of a particular group of readers, it doesn't mean it's at all objective. There are many possible readings of any text, and god, I'm now tempted to make the obvious post where I show how there's nothing sexual about Harry's feelings about Draco or vice versa. Obsession doesn't have to be sexual; I mean, it often is, but even so, that connection in one's subconscious has a dramatic and storytelling use staying in the dark unconscious mind. We are driven as much by the things we're unaware of within us as the things that are obvious, that are conscious desires.
Suddenly, I kind of like the idea of all the possibilities for attraction that we never do realize within us... That's where the Oedipal stuff comes from, isn't it; it's very much what's most formative and driving within us, right?
I don't even think the archetypal roots behind Harry/Ginny (canon) and Harry/Draco (fanon) are that different; they both play on the complementary yin-yang attraction thing, but they serve different functions for Harry. I could make the case that his reactions to Draco are much more tangled up with all sorts of things he doesn't admit to himself, that's the flipside to his reaction to and attraction to the Weasleys, say. Harry can't look away from what disturbs and discomforts him. He can't look away, he has to -investigate-. He wants to figure out what Draco's doing so that he knows what to expect; so that he's not jumping at shadows even more than he is.
This is really not most people's idea of what romantic attraction feels like, in real life, so no wonder Harry doesn't want to kiss Draco in book 6 instead of Ginny. His relationship with his own repressed fears and worries and dark obsessions is much deeper, more conflicted, much much less consciously sexual.
I now know how the Remus/Sirius shippers who had people accusing them of believing it's canon feel :(( H/D is not canon :(( I like it that way :(( H/Hr was never canon either, whether or not R/Hr was; throwing a shitfit that it's not just makes me wanna never talk to another HP fan again :((
Fandom is apparently bad for my health. I should just hole up & write my poor fic (in which Draco's not a DE till after 6th year, interview canon bedamned) & dabble in Blaise/Ginny, which is omgsohot, and also indulge my newfound affection for Theodore & Zacharias (together). Man. So easy to lose sight of my priorities. Wah.
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On a happy note, this photo is proof every blond teenage boy that looks remotely haughty makes me think of Draco. What am I saying, every blond boy makes me think of Draco, period. ><;;
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EDIT - H/D really is the submarine of lurve. Wow. All my rambling for nothing.
EDIT #2 -
...Having read this, as well as every single comment every H/Hr-er has made on the petition to JKR (...), I've decided-- who cares?
To gloat is to be human. I'm gonna gloat away, if y'all don't mind.
Okay, what I'm talking about is the unavoidable bitching about the latest canon & the renewed shipping wars and so on; I realize I've actually done some gloating myself at points, and now I sort of feel sickened of literally all ships (besides ones me &
addictedkitten made up yesterday-- that's sacred) and tired already. Meh.There's only this icon to make me feel better:
R/Hr? If -sexual tension- was canon, Harry and Ron would be snogging by book 4. Snape and McGonagall would have four kids, and Voldemort would be -shagging Dumbledore-. Get over it.
Man. I LOVE MY FANON SHIP.
I like subtext. As subtext.
I mean, while there are H/D vibes in the latest book, there are also Snape/Draco vibes, Harry/Snape vibes, Dumbledore/Voldemort vibes, Harry/Ron/Hermione vibes-- even Harry/Blaise & Blaise/Ginny vibes if you squint. None of these I consider to be 'really there' outside hints built upon by the reader's imagination, nothing close to being likely to happen. Just because there is subtext in the mind of a particular group of readers, it doesn't mean it's at all objective. There are many possible readings of any text, and god, I'm now tempted to make the obvious post where I show how there's nothing sexual about Harry's feelings about Draco or vice versa. Obsession doesn't have to be sexual; I mean, it often is, but even so, that connection in one's subconscious has a dramatic and storytelling use staying in the dark unconscious mind. We are driven as much by the things we're unaware of within us as the things that are obvious, that are conscious desires.
Suddenly, I kind of like the idea of all the possibilities for attraction that we never do realize within us... That's where the Oedipal stuff comes from, isn't it; it's very much what's most formative and driving within us, right?
I don't even think the archetypal roots behind Harry/Ginny (canon) and Harry/Draco (fanon) are that different; they both play on the complementary yin-yang attraction thing, but they serve different functions for Harry. I could make the case that his reactions to Draco are much more tangled up with all sorts of things he doesn't admit to himself, that's the flipside to his reaction to and attraction to the Weasleys, say. Harry can't look away from what disturbs and discomforts him. He can't look away, he has to -investigate-. He wants to figure out what Draco's doing so that he knows what to expect; so that he's not jumping at shadows even more than he is.
This is really not most people's idea of what romantic attraction feels like, in real life, so no wonder Harry doesn't want to kiss Draco in book 6 instead of Ginny. His relationship with his own repressed fears and worries and dark obsessions is much deeper, more conflicted, much much less consciously sexual.
I now know how the Remus/Sirius shippers who had people accusing them of believing it's canon feel :(( H/D is not canon :(( I like it that way :(( H/Hr was never canon either, whether or not R/Hr was; throwing a shitfit that it's not just makes me wanna never talk to another HP fan again :((
Fandom is apparently bad for my health. I should just hole up & write my poor fic (in which Draco's not a DE till after 6th year, interview canon bedamned) & dabble in Blaise/Ginny, which is omgsohot, and also indulge my newfound affection for Theodore & Zacharias (together). Man. So easy to lose sight of my priorities. Wah.
~~
On a happy note, this photo is proof every blond teenage boy that looks remotely haughty makes me think of Draco. What am I saying, every blond boy makes me think of Draco, period. ><;;
~~
EDIT - H/D really is the submarine of lurve. Wow. All my rambling for nothing.
EDIT #2 -
...Having read this, as well as every single comment every H/Hr-er has made on the petition to JKR (...), I've decided-- who cares?
To gloat is to be human. I'm gonna gloat away, if y'all don't mind.
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Re: brain...not...function...
Date: 2005-07-23 11:15 am (UTC)Re: brain...not...function...
Date: 2005-07-23 11:18 am (UTC)... I actually kind of like the Remus/Tonks. Except for the big Hollywood declaration at the end.
I actually like that Draco was all impertinent and pissy to Snape (adoring slave Draco not my thing, subby but feisty is) and that he wanted his GLORY. :)))
Re: brain...not...function...
Date: 2005-07-23 11:22 am (UTC)Remus/Tonks was so pastede on yay!!11one it hurt something horrible. Remus/Harry totally have UST in the form of shared Sirius-angst, private DADA classes, & SUBTEXTUAL CHOCOLATE EATING! It's all about the chocolate.
Re: brain...not...function...
Date: 2005-07-23 12:12 pm (UTC)I like shared Sirius angst. :D :D :D Sirius angst over James is best though.
Re: brain...not...function...
Date: 2005-07-23 11:21 am (UTC)...not that she's slutty.
But I know what you mean, it's just. Pedophilic!Remus is all... *shudder*
Also, I know bi!Remus is canon now, but still. aaaaah. *scared*
And Snape/Draco's the only ship I hate on in slash (R/D just upsets me a bit), just like I hate on H/Hr in het for the fun of it :-?
Though I do love your take on it :D :D
Re: brain...not...function...
Date: 2005-07-23 11:25 am (UTC)I dunno about the paedophile thing though. Albus/students is probably guaranteed to gross me out, but other teachers I can handle.
Why do you hate Snape/Draco, if you don't mind me asking?
Re: brain...not...function...
Date: 2005-07-23 11:42 am (UTC)Yeah, I tend to dislike crossgen in general, but I tend to dislike crossgen I find has paternal overtones even more, 'cause then I have these huge 'betrayal of trust' issues & stuff, plus I don't actually tend to find older people hot (I don't even like post-Hogwarts S/R sex). Snape... especially not hot when older. (The S/Hr is just a perverse snarky pairing... thing. Similar to H/S in that appeal.)
Draco looks up to Snape, and Snape is the only real father figure he has besides Lucius (who should just be shot), so that freaks me out. Even if Draco has a crush on him, I hope Snape has enough integrity to let Draco down gently and not fuck him over even more. If (IF!) someone writes S/D as fucked up and bad for both of them, well, I'm down with it, but it's just that most S/D shippers go on about how much better Snape is for Draco than Harry because they're both Slytherins & understand each other, and I happen to think Snape doesn't understand anyone, including himself. He's a messed up, childish, regressive son-of-a-bitch who needs mucho therapy before he's allowed next to semi-normal human beings in actual relationships.
Mind you, I love him, but he's a scary bastard, and I feel protective of Draco here. Also, the whole uber-dom!Snape thing strikes me as hilarious, 'cause I definitely don't go for the in-control!super-smooth!Snape fanon vision either. He really can't handle his messier emotions that well-- he just seems to repress them or express them through verbal vitriol. So the idea of him domming Draco for Draco's 'own good' makes me shudder if it's portrayed as 'good for them' (fucked up is fine; I like fucked up).
Basically, one too many S/D enthusiasts proclaiming that S/D is what Draco & Snape really need, being two damaged individuals who clearly aren't ready for relationships, and yet are somehow ready & suited for each other. That sort of makes me make retching noises ^^;; Plus... I don't really like the whole greasy-black-hair-on-sleek-blond, either. So just... meh all around ^^;;;
Re: brain...not...function...
Date: 2005-07-23 11:59 am (UTC)Eh, it's not Snape so much as the character-play (not meaning the canon characters, but the roles) I enjoy. And I mean, I'm not talking about anything except basic PWP here, y'know. Or at least, hot sultry affairs in offices. The emotional side of it I can take or leave, depending on the writer. They're not better for each other because they're Slytherins, they're better for each other because I think it's hot XD. Yay for porn-logic!
But Remus/Harry is a little different, because I think there isn't as much the father-figure issue there as there is with Sirius (or, obviously, James/Harry stuff which kinds of makes me boggle and feel guilty about thinking it's hot if it is). And I don't really care for the Remus/James subtext either. So I can accept the emotional stuff easier, but really, I'm just in it for the hot bent-over-the-desk sex involving uniforms not-quite being removed all the way and ties being
abused inappropriately.Re: brain...not...function...
Date: 2005-07-23 08:25 pm (UTC)For me, nearly every pairing, even in PWPs between characters I don't know much about, is about the emotional stuff, even if by that one's referring to meaningless friendly sex (sometimes I might be in the mood for that-- between Theodore & Zacharias & canon!Blaise, say). It's... limiting, but I feel lends itself to better porn writing on my part, heheh >:D
Re: brain...not...function...
Date: 2005-07-23 11:26 am (UTC)Re: brain...not...function...
Date: 2005-07-23 11:30 am (UTC)Re: brain...not...function...
Date: 2005-07-23 11:57 am (UTC)