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reenkaIt's only been a few days, and I'm already having HBP fandom moodswings, I think. Avoid, Reena. Avoid. And yet, so hard to constantly remain vigilant.
Okay, what I'm talking about is the unavoidable bitching about the latest canon & the renewed shipping wars and so on; I realize I've actually done some gloating myself at points, and now I sort of feel sickened of literally all ships (besides ones me &![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
addictedkitten made up yesterday-- that's sacred) and tired already. Meh.
There's only this icon to make me feel better:
R/Hr? If -sexual tension- was canon, Harry and Ron would be snogging by book 4. Snape and McGonagall would have four kids, and Voldemort would be -shagging Dumbledore-. Get over it.
Man. I LOVE MY FANON SHIP.
I like subtext. As subtext.
I mean, while there are H/D vibes in the latest book, there are also Snape/Draco vibes, Harry/Snape vibes, Dumbledore/Voldemort vibes, Harry/Ron/Hermione vibes-- even Harry/Blaise & Blaise/Ginny vibes if you squint. None of these I consider to be 'really there' outside hints built upon by the reader's imagination, nothing close to being likely to happen. Just because there is subtext in the mind of a particular group of readers, it doesn't mean it's at all objective. There are many possible readings of any text, and god, I'm now tempted to make the obvious post where I show how there's nothing sexual about Harry's feelings about Draco or vice versa. Obsession doesn't have to be sexual; I mean, it often is, but even so, that connection in one's subconscious has a dramatic and storytelling use staying in the dark unconscious mind. We are driven as much by the things we're unaware of within us as the things that are obvious, that are conscious desires.
Suddenly, I kind of like the idea of all the possibilities for attraction that we never do realize within us... That's where the Oedipal stuff comes from, isn't it; it's very much what's most formative and driving within us, right?
I don't even think the archetypal roots behind Harry/Ginny (canon) and Harry/Draco (fanon) are that different; they both play on the complementary yin-yang attraction thing, but they serve different functions for Harry. I could make the case that his reactions to Draco are much more tangled up with all sorts of things he doesn't admit to himself, that's the flipside to his reaction to and attraction to the Weasleys, say. Harry can't look away from what disturbs and discomforts him. He can't look away, he has to -investigate-. He wants to figure out what Draco's doing so that he knows what to expect; so that he's not jumping at shadows even more than he is.
This is really not most people's idea of what romantic attraction feels like, in real life, so no wonder Harry doesn't want to kiss Draco in book 6 instead of Ginny. His relationship with his own repressed fears and worries and dark obsessions is much deeper, more conflicted, much much less consciously sexual.
I now know how the Remus/Sirius shippers who had people accusing them of believing it's canon feel :(( H/D is not canon :(( I like it that way :(( H/Hr was never canon either, whether or not R/Hr was; throwing a shitfit that it's not just makes me wanna never talk to another HP fan again :((
Fandom is apparently bad for my health. I should just hole up & write my poor fic (in which Draco's not a DE till after 6th year, interview canon bedamned) & dabble in Blaise/Ginny, which is omgsohot, and also indulge my newfound affection for Theodore & Zacharias (together). Man. So easy to lose sight of my priorities. Wah.
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On a happy note, this photo is proof every blond teenage boy that looks remotely haughty makes me think of Draco. What am I saying, every blond boy makes me think of Draco, period. ><;;
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EDIT - H/D really is the submarine of lurve. Wow. All my rambling for nothing.
EDIT #2 -
...Having read this, as well as every single comment every H/Hr-er has made on the petition to JKR (...), I've decided-- who cares?
To gloat is to be human. I'm gonna gloat away, if y'all don't mind.
Okay, what I'm talking about is the unavoidable bitching about the latest canon & the renewed shipping wars and so on; I realize I've actually done some gloating myself at points, and now I sort of feel sickened of literally all ships (besides ones me &
addictedkitten made up yesterday-- that's sacred) and tired already. Meh.There's only this icon to make me feel better:
R/Hr? If -sexual tension- was canon, Harry and Ron would be snogging by book 4. Snape and McGonagall would have four kids, and Voldemort would be -shagging Dumbledore-. Get over it.
Man. I LOVE MY FANON SHIP.
I like subtext. As subtext.
I mean, while there are H/D vibes in the latest book, there are also Snape/Draco vibes, Harry/Snape vibes, Dumbledore/Voldemort vibes, Harry/Ron/Hermione vibes-- even Harry/Blaise & Blaise/Ginny vibes if you squint. None of these I consider to be 'really there' outside hints built upon by the reader's imagination, nothing close to being likely to happen. Just because there is subtext in the mind of a particular group of readers, it doesn't mean it's at all objective. There are many possible readings of any text, and god, I'm now tempted to make the obvious post where I show how there's nothing sexual about Harry's feelings about Draco or vice versa. Obsession doesn't have to be sexual; I mean, it often is, but even so, that connection in one's subconscious has a dramatic and storytelling use staying in the dark unconscious mind. We are driven as much by the things we're unaware of within us as the things that are obvious, that are conscious desires.
Suddenly, I kind of like the idea of all the possibilities for attraction that we never do realize within us... That's where the Oedipal stuff comes from, isn't it; it's very much what's most formative and driving within us, right?
I don't even think the archetypal roots behind Harry/Ginny (canon) and Harry/Draco (fanon) are that different; they both play on the complementary yin-yang attraction thing, but they serve different functions for Harry. I could make the case that his reactions to Draco are much more tangled up with all sorts of things he doesn't admit to himself, that's the flipside to his reaction to and attraction to the Weasleys, say. Harry can't look away from what disturbs and discomforts him. He can't look away, he has to -investigate-. He wants to figure out what Draco's doing so that he knows what to expect; so that he's not jumping at shadows even more than he is.
This is really not most people's idea of what romantic attraction feels like, in real life, so no wonder Harry doesn't want to kiss Draco in book 6 instead of Ginny. His relationship with his own repressed fears and worries and dark obsessions is much deeper, more conflicted, much much less consciously sexual.
I now know how the Remus/Sirius shippers who had people accusing them of believing it's canon feel :(( H/D is not canon :(( I like it that way :(( H/Hr was never canon either, whether or not R/Hr was; throwing a shitfit that it's not just makes me wanna never talk to another HP fan again :((
Fandom is apparently bad for my health. I should just hole up & write my poor fic (in which Draco's not a DE till after 6th year, interview canon bedamned) & dabble in Blaise/Ginny, which is omgsohot, and also indulge my newfound affection for Theodore & Zacharias (together). Man. So easy to lose sight of my priorities. Wah.
~~
On a happy note, this photo is proof every blond teenage boy that looks remotely haughty makes me think of Draco. What am I saying, every blond boy makes me think of Draco, period. ><;;
~~
EDIT - H/D really is the submarine of lurve. Wow. All my rambling for nothing.
EDIT #2 -
...Having read this, as well as every single comment every H/Hr-er has made on the petition to JKR (...), I've decided-- who cares?
To gloat is to be human. I'm gonna gloat away, if y'all don't mind.
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Date: 2005-07-23 02:02 am (UTC)But anyway, *pats* I just kind of feel like going "LALALALALA" and sticking my fingers in my ears and pretending that most of the non-Slytherin parts of HBP don't exist and that someone infected the whole of fandom with some sort of weird virus I haven't caught yet. I even tried to re-read it last night, and realised that when you actually skip whole chapters because A) they were shit and b) you remember them too easily it's probably proof that you didn't like the book and you should give it to your friend who's been hanging out for it for a week.
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Date: 2005-07-23 02:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-23 02:11 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-23 02:16 am (UTC)-
not-(frogslayr)
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Date: 2005-07-23 02:22 am (UTC)*has even more fandom angst* :))
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Date: 2005-07-23 02:25 am (UTC):D
it's okay, angsting is... wait, whatever... not good. Wish you could write fic, make us all SUPER HAPPY.
*greeds*
still-not-Frog
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Date: 2005-07-23 02:39 am (UTC)Ginny/Blaise, the new black :D :D :D
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Date: 2005-07-23 02:42 am (UTC)where all the new shiny H/D?. Aw fuggit, I have no handle on H/D right now. Like you said, it's in the book. Gotta get over it and be sneaky ship again.
But Ginny/Blaise? ebil. Maybe you can turn Blaise back into a white girl. who passes.
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Date: 2005-07-23 02:55 am (UTC)I love my sneaky ship, and I also love that it's got this ambiguous relationship to canon-- both flirting with it and avoiding too much intersection, if y'know what I mean. It's so right & so wrong, and wouldn't work without being both. I dunno.
Hahahah Ginny/Blaise = TEH HOTTTtt!!1 I WILL CONVERT YOU!!1 >:O
H/D IS A SUBMARINE!!1
Date: 2005-07-23 02:58 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-23 02:58 am (UTC)but het? het? ebil ebil person. I will not read het, unless it's Harry/Hermione where they plot to kill Ron. then Harry kidnaps Draco and uses him for lots of nummy non-con smex in the other bedroom while keeping it up with Hermione
wah, I miss fandom.
Re: H/D IS A SUBMARINE!!1
Date: 2005-07-23 03:06 am (UTC):D
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Date: 2005-07-23 03:08 am (UTC)Harry/Hermione makes me cry. :( As does fandom :P Then again, I always get a bit violent-minded when you directly oppose H/D to absolutely any ship, het or not :))
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Date: 2005-07-23 03:11 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-23 03:13 am (UTC)and never read Harry/Hermione before, but just want to write it now (if my password wasn't locked) just because...
besides, the rotten brats aren't interested in each other anymore. Harry!obsession still has to sink in with me. I'm too used to obsessed little Draco.
*am slow*
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Date: 2005-07-23 03:24 am (UTC)Me, I'm just not big on Hermione!sex or comfortable relationships (like, H.M.S Harmony-- their own ship name-- pretty much sums up why I don't like the ship). Hee, the Ginny/Blaise thing is 'cause I see them at each other's throats v. easily.
Haha, Harry was always paranoid-obsessed, always overreacting to Malfoy & actually paying him too much attention, except in OoTP where he was too distracted by his angest & pane. Haha, though I'm not at all convinced Draco's not still obsessed & wanks to Potter whenever he can't help himself. He's just kind of overwhelmed by other things the way Harry was in OoTP. Not that I'm bursting with the need to read/write H/D, but there's pretty much nothing canon could do to make me stop seeing it in my head :> Even if I see lots of other things too. Except H/Hr, which just makes me cry, as I said :>
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Date: 2005-07-23 03:33 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-23 03:37 am (UTC)Hahah, the Slytherin parts of fandom scare me too, a lot times. OMG I AM SO ALONE & MISUNDERSTOOD, JUST LIKE DRACO :(( :(( :D :D
...I don't think rereading books right after finishing them lends itself to much excitement anyway :-? Me, I never reread anything, so what do I know. However, I definitely never reread the whole thing, just my favorite parts. I think that's normal, not necessarily a sign of dislike-- all by itself :D But then, I will always be a fandom weirdo in that OoTP remains my favorite book, followed by GoF & HBP & PoA kinda vying for attention.
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Date: 2005-07-23 04:02 am (UTC)OMG I AM SO ALONE & MISUNDERSTOOD, JUST LIKE DRACO :((
OMG I WILL BE YOUR MOANING MYRTLE REENKA!!!1one *comforting ghost-
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Date: 2005-07-23 04:04 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-23 04:05 am (UTC):D
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Date: 2005-07-23 04:11 am (UTC)...If you're gonna be my Moaning Myrtle, might as well call me Reena :P
reenka is just my lj's name, heh.
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Date: 2005-07-23 04:12 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-23 04:37 am (UTC)He was being blackmailed
Well, see, I have a theory that Voldie didn't start pulling out the death-threats and nasty stuff until Draco started having problems getting the closet to work and looking like he was going to fail, because Narcissa acts at the beginning like Draco's willing, and the way he acts in Diagon Alley trying to get away from her and willingly going to B&B's kinda hints at this too. Also, I think if Voldie was threatening him and the family, Narcissa might actually try to help the boy, whereas at the beginning, because Draco thinks it's an honour and all and he's stupid, Voldemort doesn't need to resort to said threats. Either that, or he's just boasting and lying on the train. It's hard to tell, of course, but I think Harry's right about the mark. Only cos it's kinda hot, and stuff. :D
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Date: 2005-07-23 05:40 am (UTC)