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Ahhhh, [livejournal.com profile] stellabelle so owns me. Yeah, she wrote another H/D fic and yeah, I'm so in love with it I have to pimp it in this most embarrassing fashion. Ahem.

Possibly this might have to do with the fact that it's called `I Have A Girlfriend, You Fucker!'. I think this and this alone could make me fall over from the sheer beauty of it all.

Also, after [livejournal.com profile] the_leaky's unfortunate descent into angst, I so needed this, man. Besides, there are references to like, British things in it. Like... like Kensington. Oh, the love. As well as easy!Draco and rather-stupid-but-eager!Harry. The world really should work like this. I mean, it may not, but DAMMIT IT SHOULD. Actually, it -does-, doesn't it?

Date: 2004-11-28 04:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Oh, but plenty of people think Draco & Pansy are cool separately-- just, not so much together. There are lots of fics with Draco-- clearly the fandom thinks that whatever they believe is 'Draco' is cool enough to write fics about. As for Pansy, there's lots of her also, just not necessarily with Draco. I do believe it's the ship in particular that isn't dramatic, not the characters themselves. I think most people would say that Draco by himself is one of the most (overly) dramatic characters in HP :> Anyway, their 'common-man' aspects wouldn't be enough to stop most people (since most people would just overlook that and infuse coolness artificially) if that's all it was.

However, you're right-- they're not cool. That's what I meant-- Ron & Hermione aren't 'cool' but they're -made- cool because that's how the fandom wants to see them (ie, bias, yeay!) and because their dynamic together plugs into a common pre-existing cliche, which D/P doesn't.

Date: 2004-11-28 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
But eh, that's fanon you're talking about. The fanon is dramatic, the canon is OVER dramatic, as in funny and not especially tear-jerking or meaningful in that epic way. Oh, and hooray for lack of clichè...? Though I could argue there's plenty of "partners in crime" clichès that would fit, it's just that the gay thing is more appealing for some reason. >:D

Date: 2004-11-28 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
I'm trying to explain people's behavior & root it in reasonable, predictable patterns, that is all :>

Date: 2004-11-28 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
This sounds like you mean I am trying their behaviour as unelightened. I was thinking that probably I am actually saying that romance is unenlightened. Maybe I just feel a little oppressed.

Date: 2004-11-28 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
I say nothing of enlightenment, only of predictability & the obvious nature of how people will tend to react. As for how enlightened people are, as well as their desires and imaginings-- not at all. This is a long-established truth of the world, I thought.

Date: 2004-11-28 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
I think writing is an exploration of the writer's truth.

Date: 2004-11-28 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Well, the writer's truth is partly defined by the truths of the society/age/social group/family they're in, unless they're me, because I AM IMMUNE TO YOU ALL, BITCHES >:O ...Ahem.

I just meant, I'm talking about other writers... groups of writers. So it's a cumulative thing, especially since in fandom, writers' truths/personal visions interact & create fanon.

Date: 2004-11-28 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
the writer's truth is partly defined by the truths of the society/age/social group/family they're in

Or a total adolescent-type rebellion against them, ahaha. See, this is why I love Utena.

Date: 2004-11-28 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Adolescent-style rebellion is temporary in that it always ends in either failure, stagnation or death-- sometimes a combination of the three :> Thusly, it is a pretty fantasy, but alas.

Date: 2004-11-28 04:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
Are you talking realism at me? :D :D :D

I just realised that what drives me mad is that you never write upgrades, just character development which I love, but then when we get it on meta-style you always throw literary contructs at me that make me want to spin around dementedly spitting fire. :D :D

META TRULY IS EVIL.

Date: 2004-11-28 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
I think in terms of literary patterns/constructs if anything 'cause I'm in love with them as a lit-crit addicted English major. But my literary critic side isn't my writer self.

I fully agree that meta is evil and argument fruitless, however.

Date: 2004-11-28 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
But it's not the fact that you USE THEM, it's the ones you specifically use. Like, Draco as a hero, and -

- why are we having this flamewar again?

Date: 2004-11-28 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
...I don't know. But you started it, I know that much ;)) Plus you told me I can't stop even if I haven't slept yet :>

AHAHAHAHAHflk;jasdflkjd

Date: 2004-11-28 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
DAMN RIGHT YOU CAN'T, I AM GIVING MY ARMY OF MONSTERS A PREPTALK AS WE SPEAK, YOU SPUNKY HEROINE.

YOU STARTED IT WHEN YOU DISSED P AND D'S PURE LOVE, WHICH I DON'T EVEN SHIP, BTW.

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