....-.-

Jul. 12th, 2004 08:04 pm
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Now... if you make fun of me for this, I will be very sad. Sad, I tell you! So like... don't. Okay, then.

Eeeeeeee, I just found this gorgeous goth Snape photography site(!!). Snape being all melancholy in a graveyard (well, and on Lily's grave, but it doesn't matter), and it's so beautiful and omg, real, somehow and now I want to write beautifully-grieving!Snape which is just... kind of disturbing and OOC, but who cares!!

Ack, I have such a not-so-secret fetish for goth photography and this is giving me a serious squee attack!! Aaaaack! I feel all Victorian and swoony now!! Saaaave meeeeeeeeee....! (Or, well, save Snape, I suppose, heehee.)

No, seriously, this is a very striking image to me. So many people draw Snape as all menacing-yet-sexual or just menacing or um... dryly sarcastic-- I love this vulnerable, self-destructive man. Paaaaain, my pretty. I like the paaaaaain.
    And this definitely makes me want to write (bad) fic of some sort. *siiiigh* 'He' seems younger here, and... I dunno, I'm just a sucker, what can I tell you??! (There's just... something about a man in black out cold on cemetery steps. *weeps* Are my roots showing?)
    There are more Snape portraits here, but uh... they're not as... convincing, shall we say :>

...just leave me to my gothy woes, dammit.
/over-defensive


EDIT - Eeeek! I feel like some love center in my brain just -burst- or something!...!..!..!! My dear woobie adorable raging 11-year old!Harry!<3333!! Aack, Glock's Harry is my faaaaavorite <33333333333

Date: 2004-07-12 05:27 pm (UTC)
ext_6866: (Me)
From: [identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com
Well, if they laugh at you I'm afraid they're going to have to laugh at me too. I don't care if it makes me a teenie goth. They're great!!! Especially because it's *sunny.* I never dreamed it'd be sunny.

Date: 2004-07-12 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Heee! It might just be -too- over-the-top if it was dark & the moon was out, ahahah. *coughs*though I wouldn't mind*coughs*
...When I think about you & your love for a certain kind of hero, I'm not surprised though :D

Date: 2004-07-14 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
... How could you.

Date: 2004-07-14 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
You were my Sire, man. You were my Yoda!

Date: 2004-07-12 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penelope-z.livejournal.com
*rolls* OMG, it's the vampire Lestat!

Date: 2004-07-12 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
*laughs and laughs*

Okay, I was wrong about it making me sad ;))

Date: 2004-07-13 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penelope-z.livejournal.com
May I also suggest the appropriate goth soundtrack? How about 'I am streched on your Grave' by Dead Can Dance? I think it's suitable...

I love how Snape seems to be in such despair but his robes are still ripples artistically as he collapses so he won't get them wrinkled. I also have to point out that instead of 'Snape mourning in front of Lily's grave' it would have been much more interesting to see 'Snape jumping up and down with glee in front of James' grave' or 'Snape doing the Macarena in front of Sirius' grave'

Date: 2004-07-13 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
eheeeee! Man, now I wanna download that song o_0
(Snape takes good care of his robes, didn't you know?)

Hee, maniacal!Snape holds a certain appeal, oh yes. Heheh of course that's just the flipside of depressive!Snape. He could be laughing and crying and tearing out his hair as he watches the corrosive potion spill over the stone, eating it away. Or something ^^; (After all, why be sad or glad when you can be insane....?)

Date: 2004-07-13 06:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penelope-z.livejournal.com
I keep on thinking of Macarena!Snape all beaming with happiness in front of Sirius' grave. God, malice is one aspect of Snape I really cherish. Screw nobility!

Date: 2004-07-13 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Heheh, but pure malice would be boring, would it not? Like, two-dimensional. Wouldn't it be more interesting if he was both? Well, not noble, 'cause that implies ideals of some sort. More like... hmm yah he's just bitter and resentful more than sad. This whole why-is-Snape-not-a-Death-Eater is a question for the ages, it seems o_0 Hee

Date: 2004-07-15 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
but pure malice would be boring

No, it would be funny! Fun fun fun!

Date: 2004-07-13 06:54 am (UTC)
ext_6866: (Moon magic)
From: [identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com
I also have to point out that instead of 'Snape mourning in front of Lily's grave' it would have been much more interesting to see 'Snape jumping up and down with glee in front of James' grave' or 'Snape doing the Macarena in front of Sirius' grave'


Oh, I would love that. I wonder if she takes requests? (Personally I mentally substituted somebody else's grave anyway.)

Date: 2004-07-13 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penelope-z.livejournal.com
Perhaps we can commission something...

I'm curious, which grave did you substitute Lily's with? I can't imagine Snape in such a state over anyone's grave, unless he's got a really bad hangover.

Date: 2004-07-13 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
Meh, because I am obsessive, I always go back to Draco dancing on Harry's grave. I wonder if I could write a fic about it. It wouldn't be long. Draco would compose lyrics to dance to.

"You're dead!
I'm not!
Ahahah!
I always said you stink!
And now you stink even worse!
Ahahah!
Who's the hero now!
I am the hero!
Someone starts writing!"

etc.etc.

Date: 2004-07-13 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
...he sounds like a little goblin from a fairy-tale. Like Rumpelstiltskin :> Or Gollum. I can definitely see Draco as Gollum -.-

Date: 2004-07-14 10:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
...he sounds like a little goblin from a fairy-tale. Like Rumpelstiltskin :> Or Gollum. I can definitely see Draco as Gollum -.-

Date: 2004-07-14 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
....AHAHAHAHAH. um. I just meant that duuuude Draco-as-Gollum is not a pretty image in my head. And also that yah, he is that pathetic. Hence the "-.-" heheheh.
... -.-
:D

Date: 2004-07-14 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
I like him as a character, man. It's just... I wouldn't want to slash him with Harry, for instance. If you know what I mean :>

Y'know... small... green... insane... that kind of thing :>

Date: 2004-07-15 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
You just inspired me to write fic. I spent three hours doing research on the hp lexicon. How professional of me.

Date: 2004-07-13 08:55 pm (UTC)
ext_6866: (Me)
From: [identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com
I didn't think of a specific person from canon--I was seeing him more in a state of despair over his own life. The grave was just a convenient thing for him to lean on while he was regretting his own situation, so he didn't even know whose grave he was at!

Date: 2004-07-13 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Yeah, exactly!! :D!
*is all happy* I love it when you say things for me >:D!
Snape's 'state of despair' is something I'm really fascinated with-- most people seem more interested in his bitterness or sarcasm or Slytherinness of whatever sort, but I'm (as usual) more into the pale underbelly of it all. I think I've never really felt like I had a 'grasp' on Snape 'cause people's ideals concerning Snape don't tend to touch me.

And all of a sudden, this Christian-mystic approach with the focus on despair, guilt, wretchedness, forgiveness & self-sacrifice (monastic ideals of sorts) really resonated with me. And it's not that I think Snape -does- act like that, but I think there's a useful symbology there to work with (for me) in understanding him better and attuning myself to him as a character.

I sort of want to write a post about all this (that sort of ascetic/monkish mysticism when applied to Snape), but I don't quite know where to start. It's such a weighty subject, and I'm slightly afraid I'll be laughed at ^^;;;

Date: 2004-07-14 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
this Christian-mystic approach with the focus on despair, guilt, wretchedness, forgiveness & self-sacrifice (monastic ideals of sorts) really resonated with me.

Also with the impossibly judgemental mentality: only person in the world he respects is Dumbledore, because he thinks Dumbledore is Christ or something. Anybody else is unworthy.

Date: 2004-07-14 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
...I find it funny that the only 'non-judgemental' characters would probably be the Hufflepuffs and the Hufflepuffs we know are Ernie Macmillan & Zach Smith, both rather judgemental -.-

I'm actually unsure how he gets on with McGonnagal, for instance. I think he's just really hard-put to find anyone better/more intelligent/powerful than him that is also a compassionate human being (or a student, hahah). Actually, the Dumbledore thing makes sense if you were once Tom Riddle's follower, since Dumbledore's supposed to be the only wizard as powerful as Tom :>

Date: 2004-07-14 10:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ladyrelaynie.livejournal.com
I always get the feeling (or maybe I just like to think) that Snape gets on rather well with Professor McGonaghall. I always think of the Gilderoy Lockhart/Ginny disappearing scene in movie!Chamber of Secrets . . . united in taking the piss out of Gilderoy, they act like comrades, somehow. Also, in OoTP when Harry's about to curse the crap out of Draco and McGonaghall interrupts, there's a certain lightness to the conversation between her and Snape.

Also, Reenka ... I'd love to read that post about monastic!Snape, and thanks for the pictures, they made my day.

Date: 2004-07-14 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Hehehe if I wanted a friend for Snape, it'd be someone austere and no-nonsense who wouldn't take any of his shit, preferrably female 'cause he'd prolly get more defensive/stubborn around men. :D :D Heeee. Men are like that, it seems like-- some, anyway-- they seem to open up and/or become more communicative (if not soften) around a certain type of female. Even gay men, like.

I know what you mean about those scenes, yes. And now for some reason I'm having a weird association between McGonnagal & Katharine Hepburn o_0

Date: 2004-07-15 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
What about Susan Bones?

Date: 2004-07-14 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
He's grieving on his own grave for the waste that was his life?

Date: 2004-07-23 08:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
Dumbledore.

Date: 2004-07-13 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
'Snape jumping up and down with glee in front of James' grave'

Can people have One True Hate's in this fandom? This just makes me so happy, it's better than pot.

Date: 2004-07-13 11:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penelope-z.livejournal.com
Nothing is better than pot, but One True Hates are beautiful things. Mine would be more of the Snape and Sirius variety though... *does the Macarena*

Date: 2004-07-14 10:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
Nothing is better than pot, but One True Hates are beautiful things. Mine would be more of the Snape and Sirius variety though... *does the Macarena*

Date: 2004-07-12 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiendling.livejournal.com
Ah!! I saw those pictures on a meme once and always wanted to know where they were from. Thanks for linking to all these. muahahahaa.

He makes a pretty good snape, though in those portraits he looks a bit too feminine (um... that is a guy, right? o.o). perfect hair, and dude, thats a really nice costume job o.o

Date: 2004-07-12 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Eheheeeeeee!! It's a (34-year-old!!) girl :D :D :D!! I didn't mention 'cause she's not the one who took the photos, but it's [livejournal.com profile] logospilgrim >:D!
I love the 'he'. I'm now laughing and laughing, though like... in some of those, she's more 'convincing', as I said. ahahahahah >:D

muwahahah indeed >:)

Date: 2004-07-12 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiendling.livejournal.com
omg it IS a girl :O

okay well, if that was a guy, it would be perfect :P haha

Date: 2004-07-12 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cellia.livejournal.com
If the pictures make me laugh, does it mean I have no soul? :DDDD

Date: 2004-07-12 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Teehee. Er. Well, if I didn't giggle somewhat myself (especially at the roses, and like, the bits with the children, AHAHAHAH), I figure I wouldn't have been so defensive >:D!
Still, some of them do work for me :P
But I figure even those are kinda funny :> Angst is funny, man, ahahahahahah

Date: 2004-07-13 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] t-winkle725.livejournal.com
I don't know whether to laugh or cry...maybe I'll just do both!

*goes back to photos*

*wipes a tear from her eye*

Date: 2004-07-13 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
I'm... also confused.
But. *looks on the bright side* At least you're not all laughing at me.



...at least I -think- you're not all laughing at me ^^;;;

Date: 2004-07-13 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] t-winkle725.livejournal.com
I'm not laughing, really, so much as ... stunned. I'm envious of this woman's talent with a sewing machine, for one thing...& I love that whole Victorian roses-and-gravestones fetish...even if its not how I see Snape, I like it.

*stalks Gothy! Snape in the graveyard, and waits behind a tree till he passes out again...)

:)

Date: 2004-07-13 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marksykins.livejournal.com
Okay, 'fess up. Someone had to have read that as 'Snape pornagraphy site.'

I mean, other than me. :D

Date: 2004-07-13 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Heheh, methinks that would've been less than unusual... unless you mean pornographic photography, in which case I think....


Yeah. I think my eyes just crossed :> :>

Date: 2004-07-13 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
Snape being all melancholy in a graveyard (well, and on Lily's grave, but it doesn't matter), and it's so beautiful and omg, real

Snape is like Young Werther!

("real". "lily's grave". ahahaha.)

Date: 2004-07-13 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
....:P

...is it just me or is everybody laughing at me just as I asked them not to....??


INTIMIDATING ONLINE PRESENCE MY ASS!!1 >:O! WHERE IS MY FEARFUL ASPECT WHEN I NEED IT!!1 >:O

*giggles*

Date: 2004-07-13 06:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penelope-z.livejournal.com
You're an intimidating online presence? When did that happen? God, I've been out of the fandom for too long...

*points and laughs*

*tickles your fearful aspects*

Date: 2004-07-13 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Well, I was told I'm er... elitist and condescending, so close enough, I guess...? :> I imagine my... er... 'self-important ways' scare off the faint of heart (and ego), apparently....??


*goes belly-up* :> :>

Date: 2004-07-13 10:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
Is that Harry in your icon? "Emotionally stunted"? Is he stealing Draco's issues now?

Reena, people can't not laugh at Snape being all melancholy in a graveyard.

Date: 2004-07-13 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Heheh yeay 11-year old Harry <3<3<3 He's stunted too, y'know. Like, Draco just hasn't grown up much, while Harry has little spurts here and there. Um. Or something -.- At first I had Glock's picture of Harry kissing Cho with that as a caption, but. Heh. It didn't look right.

mer. yeah i know, but y'know, i asked them not to, hehehe. :> :>
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