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Feb. 8th, 2006 09:48 am
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Maybe I should wear a sign: if you're homophobic, stay the bloody fuck away from me.

Of course, that doesn't work when we're talking about one's mother :/

Who isn't a fundie or religious, so of course there's lots of quasi-science and 'who wants to be proud of being like monkeys' and 'it's scientifically sick' and 'if we/the penguins were all gay, the species would die out' and on and on and on.........


*repeatedly beats head against wall*

PS: This all started 'cause I said 'slash is a better hobby than Sudoku' ^^;;;;

...and now she's smiling at me like nothing's wrong.

Date: 2006-02-09 09:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Le sigh :|
Later she felt bad for expressing (rather than having) such strong opinions, which she usually suppresses to the point where I often ramble on about slash at her, 'cause generally I don't care about disagreeing with her, but then, one of the biggest mistakes one could make is thinking she's rational just 'cause she like, rationalizes everything (I mean, I don't, so it's easy to see I'm a flake, but really it's those rational people you have to watch out for -.-)

She also said she only has an opinion on this (without proof/research/etc) just to have *an* opinion, so that other people won't feel free to brainwash her or whatever. She even said 'there's no inherent objectivity to social science issues'(!!) so basically she knows she's on thin ice & doesn't care 'cause the subject doesn't *interest* her enough and she's not a proselytizing type, y'know. So I could go on and on and try to prove it, but in the end she doesn't even *care* which is why her whole perception is so skewed-- she's never really thought enough, just sort of labelled, wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am. ^^;;;;

I mean, it's good to have an opinion of one's own-- I do on most things also-- but jeez. Judgmental people annoy me, why do they have to... uh... be everywhere :/ :/
But. ♥! It's good to see you around :D :D

Date: 2006-02-10 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cellia.livejournal.com
She also said she only has an opinion on this (without proof/research/etc) just to have *an* opinion, so that other people won't feel free to brainwash her or whatever.

wait. what.

"I don't want to be brainwashed, so I'll arbitrarily pick an option and stick it it." o_O

How is this any different than brainwashing--except that you do it to yourself?

"Undecided" or "I don't know enough about it to form an opinion" are options as well for the apethetic ...

Date: 2006-02-10 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Er... yeah, it sorta gave me the same reaction ^^;; It's hard to justify 'cause... it's irrational. She doesn't -do- 'undecided', basically; some people just need an opinion on everything, y'know-- it makes 'em feel in control or something, like they've put the lid on things & there aren't any trailing threads (which are irritating to generally judgmental people who like things definite & scheduled & all that).

But yeah, it -is- brainwashing yourself, except to people who're very control/certainty oriented, that's fine because the end result (peace of mind knowing you've put a stamp on things) is more important. She's not apathetic, see, she's just disinterested, which is slightly different: not interested enough to know any better, but still self-confident enough not to -care-.

I think it squicks her & that's all she needs to know because to her, it's not like she's ever telling anyone what to do, so why should anyone begrudge her an opinion? I mean, in some ways I'm like that too 'cause I think people (well, I) can feel/think/etc whatever they want as long as it has nothing to do with someone else, but-- I mean, it's a bit funny/stupid in this case since she does try to control/judge -me- at times, and I do write slash and I am bisexual, so this is a bit of just stubborn denial on her part...

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