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reenkaThings Learned While Going Through a Pile of Interesting-looking Sci-fi/Fantasy Books in B&N Tonight (or Why I Love Snap Judgments):
- If you're going to be a hard-boiled Noir anti-hero cop with a (very) hidden heart of gold, by three-legged Christ, please be sarcastic. Or self-deprecating. Or something. There's nothing more hurtful to The Mystique than an anti-hero who takes his bullshit angst Oh So Seriously.
No, you don't have to be a Boy Scout to be sympathetic (far from it), but being a sleazy douchebag isn't so helpful either. And no, no one cares that the poor widdle hard-boiled sleazeball has a shaky hand that's embarrassing and doesn't fit 'the image' of a corrupt cop slash thug. Oh, why do I even try. -.-
- If you're going to be the oh-so-fearful and badass wizard to Strike Fear Into The Hearts of Men (and Chickens)-- anti-hero Version 007.2.0-- it would help the reader if said badass stopped wanking to his own (huge! yet "vulnerable") ego throughout the story. I mean. Eventually it does start to smell and that it not sexy.
- If you're going to write Yet Another Fantasy Epic about a streetwise orphan with hidden magic powers (yes, AGAIN), it really helps if they have an easily identifiable personality, quickly distinguished from Another One of Those(tm), so that the reader may actually remember which book they're supposed to be reading. Otherwise said reader may "drift off", or perhaps simply "forget" to keep reading about Anonymous Spunky Orphan-girl #98020983 and her inevitable journey to Respectability and Bitter-sweet Coming of Age, etc etc and so on and so forth.
- If you're going to riff on the currently (unfortunately too) popular genre of Christian mythology rip-offs, please remember that actually setting your work within something recognizable as that mythos is not optional; a few references combined with ridiculous new 'twists' do not automatically a 'fresh new approach' make. If in fact you want to write about sexy demons doing sexy-demon-PI type things, please do your readers the courtesy of not getting their hopes up with smatterings of actual Christian mythology, where, you know, demons are fallen angels (from HELL) and that's kind of the point; the point is not that they're like, these supernatural beings, right, and they're otherwordly and good at kicking ass and getting chicks.
Keeping to some logical constraints in the basics of your source material isn't the same thing as keeping up with some black-and-white view of mythology you're no doubt rebelling from. I know, I know, I'm old-fashioned, what can I say.
- Okay that genderfuck book was actually cool.
But. There's just something about single 'issue' or 'provocative' fantasy books that bores me after I figure out what it is that's supposed to be shaking my worldview or whatever. Let that be a lesson to you all: I want to be stirred (not shaken), like a proper martini. Or if I'm there's shakin' goin' on, at least have some real fun with it, and not have it be a bunch of persecution and social commentary (on "ancient cultures"), more persecution, some sex, some non-fun violence, some more persecution, and then some more of the first-person narration.
Ah, forget it. "Actually cool", whut? I can criticize anything, especially when I get in touch with my inner 14-year old boy! :P
In other news, I saw Die Hard 4, and it was fun. It was also the first Die Hard movie I've seen so far :>
- If you're going to be a hard-boiled Noir anti-hero cop with a (very) hidden heart of gold, by three-legged Christ, please be sarcastic. Or self-deprecating. Or something. There's nothing more hurtful to The Mystique than an anti-hero who takes his bullshit angst Oh So Seriously.
No, you don't have to be a Boy Scout to be sympathetic (far from it), but being a sleazy douchebag isn't so helpful either. And no, no one cares that the poor widdle hard-boiled sleazeball has a shaky hand that's embarrassing and doesn't fit 'the image' of a corrupt cop slash thug. Oh, why do I even try. -.-
- If you're going to be the oh-so-fearful and badass wizard to Strike Fear Into The Hearts of Men (and Chickens)-- anti-hero Version 007.2.0-- it would help the reader if said badass stopped wanking to his own (huge! yet "vulnerable") ego throughout the story. I mean. Eventually it does start to smell and that it not sexy.
- If you're going to write Yet Another Fantasy Epic about a streetwise orphan with hidden magic powers (yes, AGAIN), it really helps if they have an easily identifiable personality, quickly distinguished from Another One of Those(tm), so that the reader may actually remember which book they're supposed to be reading. Otherwise said reader may "drift off", or perhaps simply "forget" to keep reading about Anonymous Spunky Orphan-girl #98020983 and her inevitable journey to Respectability and Bitter-sweet Coming of Age, etc etc and so on and so forth.
- If you're going to riff on the currently (unfortunately too) popular genre of Christian mythology rip-offs, please remember that actually setting your work within something recognizable as that mythos is not optional; a few references combined with ridiculous new 'twists' do not automatically a 'fresh new approach' make. If in fact you want to write about sexy demons doing sexy-demon-PI type things, please do your readers the courtesy of not getting their hopes up with smatterings of actual Christian mythology, where, you know, demons are fallen angels (from HELL) and that's kind of the point; the point is not that they're like, these supernatural beings, right, and they're otherwordly and good at kicking ass and getting chicks.
Keeping to some logical constraints in the basics of your source material isn't the same thing as keeping up with some black-and-white view of mythology you're no doubt rebelling from. I know, I know, I'm old-fashioned, what can I say.
- Okay that genderfuck book was actually cool.
But. There's just something about single 'issue' or 'provocative' fantasy books that bores me after I figure out what it is that's supposed to be shaking my worldview or whatever. Let that be a lesson to you all: I want to be stirred (not shaken), like a proper martini. Or if I'm there's shakin' goin' on, at least have some real fun with it, and not have it be a bunch of persecution and social commentary (on "ancient cultures"), more persecution, some sex, some non-fun violence, some more persecution, and then some more of the first-person narration.
Ah, forget it. "Actually cool", whut? I can criticize anything, especially when I get in touch with my inner 14-year old boy! :P
In other news, I saw Die Hard 4, and it was fun. It was also the first Die Hard movie I've seen so far :>
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Date: 2007-07-06 07:06 pm (UTC)Anyway, I totally haven't stopped. It was more of a break to do things I of course didn't actually do, and eating foods that are bad for me so I currently have a stomachache right after waking up, as is the nature of my life :>
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Date: 2007-07-06 07:26 pm (UTC)Also, you should take care of your life and not feel obligated to feed MY monster of HP-obsession! I've only got two more weeks really though! So I feel justified.
DID YOU SEE THAT JKR CRIED. I mean, I would have too, obviously, but :(( She has to let go too :((
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Date: 2007-07-06 07:38 pm (UTC)And dude, I love HP and also don't actually have a life, plus I need you to keep me motivated & on target for the fic(!) so no worries. However, it won't all end in 2 weeks (is it really 2 weeks?? I think I saw 16 days in the countdown at B&N yesterday but it didn't really register). I've decided that if I'm not done by the time the book comes out, I'll keep the book hostage, not go online & finish it and then read, so >__>
But there'll be even more squeeing after the book, at least for several weeks, what are you saying :"> We'll have to talk about new canon, then!! I'm pretty sure -I- will, anyway. Once, y'know, I read it ^^;;
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Date: 2007-07-06 07:50 pm (UTC)I think I just felt exhausted and terrified after finishing Transformation but I still feel proud about finishing it, so there's that.
I think there is too much Hermione and too much Hermione sympathizing with Malfoy in my fic now but I can't help it. Ahhh I really don't have all that much left to write but it feels like a ton. You can do it! I asked Aja to do a readthrough this weekend, so that is giving me pressure to finish up.
My movie marathon starts tonight! They're all going to be so little, I'm going to cry.
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Date: 2007-07-06 09:32 pm (UTC)I have bits of terror already, mostly about people's reactions and how it'll be stupid releasing right after DH when no one will care, but if I released it right before, no one would have time to read it, really, and of course no one will read it or like it anyway, etcetc -.-;;;
I've actually seen the first movie 3 times by now. *___* BUT MAYBE I SHOULD WATCH IT AGAIN *____* I have the DVD and everything. One of the handful I own, too, haha. Oh man. I think I have it memorized by now, seriously. If I close my eyes, I can already see half the scenes. Maybe if I can get Sara to come watch it with me, but then she's into bandslash now. *wibble*
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Date: 2007-07-08 03:28 am (UTC)Now I'm in the stage where I'm like, "Augh, it's all stupid, I want to get rid of everything!" though. But I watched CoS and it made me happy. How could I have forgotten how much Draco there was! It was like all fandom talked about during summer 2002!
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Date: 2007-07-08 04:57 am (UTC)Um. I sort of have the 'stupid' problem no matter what, so if it helps, I think it's like, a given that you'll think everything is stupid, especially if it's not. But editing is best left to the professionals. Like sayyyy, me. *eyebrow waggle* Just write it all down as much as you can and take a break until you can come back & look at it with some distance. If you wanted advice, which... I mean, possibly you didn't. But still.
...I am tired. :( But I have potpourri, because obviously that's what I needed to do. Go get potpourri!! :>
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Date: 2007-07-08 02:04 pm (UTC)OMG also Lockhart ♥ I forgot how much I secretly love CoS, as bad as it is. And the way Tom Felton talks, haha, like he can't really open his mouth wide enough. Love it.
Eek this is going a lot slower (the writing) than I thought, wah. I wrote 99,000 words in a month, I should be able to do this! :))
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Date: 2007-07-08 05:59 pm (UTC)Plus. Harry got buff. :3
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Date: 2007-07-06 08:57 pm (UTC)The thing about the demons - do you mean that you should just make up your own demons of whatever origin, or make them more parallel to those in the Bible? I confused.
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Date: 2007-07-06 09:09 pm (UTC)Hahah I'm not sure what I'm saying about the demons myself. ^^;; Not unusual for me :> But yeah, one or the other. Some people write 'demons' but make it pretty obvious that's just another name for 'scary horrific things' or 'sexy things with batwings' (usually horror stuff or manga, respectively), and I have no issue with that. Indeed, I have no issue with perverting mythologies, come to think of it (manga is so cute that way). But that book was just... it quoted some parts of the Christian myths re: levels of heaven/universe and so on and the the demons were cool kick-ass dudes or whatever.... Like a manga except not as shameless :>