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I wonder if I'm the only person that has these... things that drive her batty in stories, neither in a good way or a bad way, just a squirmy way. With me, the 'thing' is always going to be something embarrassing-- I just can't stand having embarrassing misunderstandings happen to main character-- and I can easily tolerate very high levels of angst. Actually, most misunderstandings drive me batty in stories (like, I start screaming at the book and jumping up and down and feeling like I'm going to squirm out of my skin), but romantic misunderstandings... oh my gahd.

I'm squirming like mad right now, reading the `Basara' manga, and there's this case of secretly switched loveletters-- a typical romance trope-- and it always drives me insane. It's worse than angst to me by far, because it's just one of those prickly misunderstandings where you don't know -where- it's going to go, and the suspense is pretty much killing me. And no matter -where- I come across it (the major other example that drove me nuts was in Draco Veritas), this plot-device drives me insane with feverish excitement and dread. I'm like, noooooo, not... not... the switched loveletters!! :(( :((

...Though I actually came across a switched-loveletters story recently where it didn't get to me at all, because the misunderstanding was really more like a seduction/manipulation type thing, with the outside manipulator (the kicker in switcheroo stories) wasn't really very powerful. In that case, a boy claimed this girl wrote a loveletter she didn't, which he actually wrote himself 'cause he liked her (....), and then this other girl claimed she wrote it (even though she didn't), but that really didn't matter. It's just so much worse, the idea of already knowing the person, for one thing, and having a relationship of some sort with them, and then supposedly saying something out of character yet plausible. Oh, the horror.

In this case it's just embarrassing (from Sarasa's pov, 'cause of the whole 'but she'd never say that'-- aaahhh, so humiliating), and that's really what gets to me-- the sheer embarrassment factor. Like, I live in horror of people saying I said things I didn't say when it really counts, and to the boy I was in love with?? That'd be a million trillion times worse.

Clearly, considering this is a drama about revolution and political intrigue and high adventure and life and death struggle, I have my priorities very much straight.

Date: 2005-08-21 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bookshop.livejournal.com
Clearly, considering this is a drama about revolution and political intrigue and high adventure and life and death struggle, I have my priorities very much straight.

PRIORITIES, WHAT? (http://www.livejournal.com/community/big_bang_hd/)

*cough*





Date: 2005-08-21 05:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shaggirl.livejournal.com
*is behind you with pointy stick at the ready* :->

Date: 2005-08-21 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
I already spent like 6-7 hours on it, so I was taking a break 'cause I couldn't judge it anymore, but I've only got like 30% left or so ^^;;;

Date: 2005-08-21 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bookshop.livejournal.com

asdfaskfjl;da oh reena. asjfks;kljfjak;fjsfjk it is just a livejournal layout, not heart surgery. *dies*

Date: 2005-08-21 05:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shaggirl.livejournal.com
Heeeeee. *loves you both*

Date: 2005-08-21 05:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
This (http://bigbang.expecto-patronum.net/temp/HP-HDBB%20banner%20fin2.png) is where I was at about two hours ago ^^;;;;
IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE MUCH, BUT TRUST ME, IT TOOK AWHILE :((

*laughs* ♥

Date: 2005-08-21 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shaggirl.livejournal.com
Well that does look awesome, I'll grant you. Now just slap the text on it and let's roll! :D :D

Date: 2005-08-21 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bookshop.livejournal.com

Clearly you and I cook the same way. :))

Date: 2005-08-21 06:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shaggirl.livejournal.com
No complaints so far. ;)

Date: 2005-08-21 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
I guess you wouldn't even want to know how long it took me last time :))

But it's not the layout, it's the messing with the image since it's not quite in usable form, to say the least!

Date: 2005-08-21 05:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bookshop.livejournal.com
It's a gorgeous image. Just stick some swirly brushes at the edges, layer it up a bit, and give it a border and that loopy text! Voila!

Obviously I am the kind of person who cooks by throwing all the ingredients into the pot and turning on the burner. But I still get full. :D

What I mean is, dude. Three hours playing around with photoshop? That I can easily see (I fiddled with the header image I used for [livejournal.com profile] pillarchallenge this afternoon for about two hours total). SIX TO SEVEN HOURS means you are possibly overthinking things! You should go out again, get more fresh air, come back, and then show us what you have so far. Then we will say, "it looks great! post, post, post!" and you can post it! And we can go live! And all will be well! And you can actually get, like, sleep!

SLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP, Reena! Sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.

Date: 2005-08-21 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
It's pretty but it's got those weird blank faces and it just looked halfway unfinished and there wasn't an obvious place for the text :(( I wouldn't call it 'text-ready' the same way fiendling's wasn't. It's also unbalanced in terms of design elements.... um.

It's not that I'm overthinking, it's that I do things by trial-and-error and it's sort of like... it usually takes me 6-8 hours to make a layout-worthy image, whereas I can do an icon quickly 'cause it's often 'ready' for text. Sometimes an image is 'ready' for text (sherant's splash for the website came pretty close) and sometimes it's.... not so much ^^;;;

But I er, took a break 'cause otherwise it'd take longer and I -would- overthink it ^^;;

Date: 2005-08-21 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
I figured at some point I have to rinse my brain out ^^;; That point is usually when I'm like blankly staring at the screen. Actually when I came back to the computer I got back to it, but I think my visual judgment is still on the low end of the scale ^^;;;

Date: 2005-08-21 02:38 pm (UTC)
ext_6866: (Rant!)
From: [identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com
This is the reason I eventually couldn't bear to watch Three's Company. I mean, you know the misunderstanding is going to work out but it's just so irritating waitng for it!!!

Date: 2005-08-21 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Haha, yeah~! But in this case I can't bear not reading it, 'cause then I'd never know for -sure-! I think it's because it's not the end result that's ever in question, but just how much embarrassing '...um' situations can happen before that ^^;; And omg, in this case the misunderstanding resulted in a marriage proposal. I was like...!! And the plot-point is so minor, it's still not resolved yet... though it's not like he can really take it back (or would want to...). Of course, what am I saying, the whole romance is based around a case of mistaken identity in the first place (that is, they don't know they're mortal enemies). Oh man ^^;;

Date: 2005-08-21 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] djinniyah.livejournal.com
I completely understand. Those situations do the same thing to me usually.

I can't watch ice-skating for the same sort of reason. I'm afraid they will fall - I'm not bothered because they might get hurt but just... the awkwardness or something just KILLS me.

I don't know. I don't even make sense to myself.

Blehalfj;lkjf. <--- incoherant sounds because she's in a crazeh mood.

(and omg YOUR ICON. a;fj;aoiwefj;aewj YOU MAKE MY ART SO MUCH BETTER THAN IT IS. ♥ ♥ ♥)

Date: 2005-08-21 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Yes! The AWKWARDNESS, that too-- actually, that's why I appreciate the idea of realistically 'awkward' sex, but in fic it just makes me cringe and want to look away. I'm such a wimp, I swear (except torture doesn't do this to me). But I know what you mean with ice-skating! Though I'm used to it with the falling (when I was little), but if it's in the middle of a great performance, it's... yeah.

(Heeeee!! ♥ I loved your comic so much but spent like an hour on the icon and forgot to feedback you 'cause I just went to sleep, I think, eheheh. But it was so adorable <3<3<3)

Date: 2005-08-21 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] djinniyah.livejournal.com
Realistically awkward sex in fic is usually okay for me - its the occasional embarassing misunderstanding that gets me.... mortifying moments. Realistically mortifying moments (or sequences of events). I don't know.

Like the ice-skating. It's a sort of strange suspense that just gets me in ways normal suspense (action movies, drama, etc.) doesn't.

(and yay, I'm so glad you enjoyed it. :D)

Date: 2005-08-21 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
I was just thinking... the sex-scene I was thinking about, it wasn't really the awkward sex part, probably, but that neither of them wanted to have sex (one had a stomach-ache and the other was tired or something, I'm not sure), but thought the other did, and they kept faking it and not doing very well and secretly thinking 'oww, my stomach' and trying to moan and writhe and... omg ^^;;;;; So really I suppose that's 'awkwardness that's an embarrassing misunderstanding' :))

And it being realistically mortifying, even if they didn't know it... it's pretty torturous :> In real life, I can't stand watching people embarrass themselves either. It transcends all boundaries, I guess :>

Date: 2005-08-23 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cellia.livejournal.com
I just can't stand having embarrassing misunderstandings happen to main character

am with you. And the damn switched-letter thing that never seemed to get resolved is the straw that broke my will to keep reading DV. hm. kinda wondering now if it ever did get resolved, but not enough to dive into it again. Can you spoil me?

needless misunderstandings GRAHJGSH HATE >:(

Date: 2005-08-23 07:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
I KNOW >:(
And yet I love Basara so much, I'd never dream of not reading it, ahah, and well, she and her boy don't even interact that much, so I keep being distracted from the romance entirely (I know!! HERESY!!1) Um. But yeah, I stopped reading DV about that time, so I plan on just making Stephen read it all when it's done >:D :D :D

Date: 2005-08-24 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cellia.livejournal.com
Haha! I stopped reading Basara years ago! The art was not pretty enough to keep me, although manga has taught me that I am not so immune to the Bastard-complex as I thought I was (so I actually do like the dymanic, just not the lameness of the misunderstandings that keep it that way).

I also can't help but wonder about basic stuff like, how does she deal with her period? But I wonder that about all Fantasy females. How do they deal with their periods when off adventuring with no supplies and/or being captured? How?! The most burning question facing Fantasy today.

Date: 2005-08-24 06:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
I'm so totally a slave to the Bastard-complex (ha! it has a name!! also, I guess this means JK Rowling has me pegged, or something), it's sad. The art kind of grew on me...? It could be worse! I keep squinting at it at thinking it's got its own quirky charm... at least, the linework is... different :))

There actually -was- a bit about menstruation a few volumes in, where she started bleeding after a battle and people were like, 'omg, are you hurt?!' and she was like, 'ha... ha... no ^^;;' and then she remembered how she hadn't had a period in months, ever since she started acting as Tatara, etc.

Really though, the Red King looks almost nice in comparison to say, the Blue King, his wacked-out brother. But the really sad(der) thing is, I am starting to dig the Blue King ever since he started to get a crush on Sarasa. I AM SO SAD :((

Date: 2005-08-24 07:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cellia.livejournal.com
The Bastard Complex is a name I made up myself, based on those brother-complex, lolita-complex etc terms that run through anime/manga. (What-I-see-as) the bastard complex is just as prevalent in shoujo, so I thought "why not give that sucker a name." I forget that not everyone has a front seat in my mind and knows all the terms I have invented. ^^;; I used to look down my nose at those pathetic girls that fell for such tripe (I remember nodding when some fan once wrote something like "shoujo seems to teach me that the stereotypical Japanese schoolgirl fantasy man is not prince charming, but the asshole-next-door," and I remember telling my room mate that, hello, it was NOT romantic for the "hero" of her Korean comic to be sweet to his love and an bastard to everyone else.)

Then, of course, came Hana Yori Dango and Doumyouji.

They actually talked about periods? Basara has gone up like 40000000x in my eyes respect-wise. The Blue King got a crush on Sasara? Wasn't he the crazy one that found out about the letters and such? Or am I confusing him w/ someone else? *actually curious* THERE SHALL BE NO SHAME IN FAN-SPACE!! If the character is cool enough, I am SO down with every character and their brother falling for them. IS SAD WITH YOU. :D

Date: 2005-08-24 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
I'm sort of shameless about liking bastards (ahahaha, asshole-next-door!! That's priceless, omg), but Doumyouji will always hold a v. special place in my heart <3<3<3<3<3 He's like... just right. Not too bastardy, not too sekritly-kind... oh man, now I'm listening to the `Stepping Out' song :)) But yeah, bastards, bastards everywhere... maybe Japanese men are either too restrained/nice so the girls are frustrated, or they're just... like that. I could dig that also ^^;;; Well, but we don't have the rougish Prince Charming with the million-dollar smile as a typical American either. That would scarier, somehow. Besides, nerd-boys & emo-boys are only hot in moderation :> :>

Basara is really good! Art aside, I mean, it's really a good story, with an actual likable female main character and all these twists and adventure and this er, hot bastard boy... heheh-- if you came to visit, I could just give you the first 13 volumes to read, heheh (I still can't believe I bought all those, honestly), though there are also scanlations. But yeah, the Blue King's the crazy one who found out about the letters, which is why I'm all woeful about liking him, 'cause he's not even a bastard, he's just a psycho. Reminds me of Dilandau, AHAHAHAH. Oh man, now I'll never get that image out of my head.

I'm pretty shameless about people falling for my favorite characters too, ehehe. It's like, how you know they have taste!! >:D :D :D Man, I'm so easily corrupted.

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