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reenkaI'm never anything less than rather disturbed when people casually mention how they want some annoying character (Ginny, Grawp, Slughorn, Snape, whatever) to die in some grizzly and/or silly fashion. Not that I can't separate reality from fantasy, and of course it's fine to imagine whatever fate befalling whatever character or real person, it's just... the frequency and the flippancy of the references gets to me, I guess.
I always remember that in real life, these people may feel like that about 'terrorist scum' or whatever other kind of scum-- they may point at some 'evil no-good disgusting' person and not just want them brought to justice, but want them destroyed and/or humiliated-- and I wind up hating not the evil person but the supposedly good people who want them made into Kibbles 'n Bits.
In the end, I guess I feel like 'good people' are ultimately scarier than 'evil' ones-- the ones who're so certain they're right, and sensible, and kind. The ones who don't realize that if you think too long about how very much you want that evil pedophile to be chopped liver, you risk becoming something quite other than kind and just and reasonable. And yeah, these are just offhand remarks not meant seriously, but that's what bothers me-- that people don't think it's important, really, that they allow raging biases to fester unchecked and unnoticed.
I was trying to think of whether I wanted Voldemort vaporized or whatever (aside from assuming he would be), and realized I didn't care as long as he was neutralized & not a threat. Man, I was just really disturbed by that random person taking their dislike of Slughorn to a desire to see him splattered across the pavement (well, not that they said that, heheh, poetic license). This is sort of indicative of how people often relate to characters-- that is, processing and reacting to them as if they're people they know-- which is why it bothers me. Attachment & dislike of fictional characters is normal, but... it still freaks me out just how far people take it. (And I shouldn't talk, I mean, I cuddle my Harry plushie, you know. In fact, my plushie wants a cuddle right now.....)
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Also, I don't know whether to be sad or resigned that I really liked the fake!Felton gay pr0n shots, but I liked the guy's blog even more (it's just so cute how he keeps mentioning his boyfriend, heheh, who's totally dark-haired and hot and, um, I'll stop before I incriminate myself further). And now Draco-the-gay-pr0n-star won't leave me alone. It's slightly more creative than rentboy!Draco, and, ahahaha oh, if played for crack & laughs is could be hilarious-- I mean, especially if he really digs it like this guy does (likes the attention, I'd bet). Oh, Harry would so drop dead, y'know, accidentally coming across a Muggle mag and BAM :D
(In my head he wouldn't do it for money, y'know, but just 'cause he doesn't want any wizard to know he's gay or whatever-- and he'd really enjoy it and, omg, I can just -see- it. Oh, fandom, I love you sometimes.)
I always remember that in real life, these people may feel like that about 'terrorist scum' or whatever other kind of scum-- they may point at some 'evil no-good disgusting' person and not just want them brought to justice, but want them destroyed and/or humiliated-- and I wind up hating not the evil person but the supposedly good people who want them made into Kibbles 'n Bits.
In the end, I guess I feel like 'good people' are ultimately scarier than 'evil' ones-- the ones who're so certain they're right, and sensible, and kind. The ones who don't realize that if you think too long about how very much you want that evil pedophile to be chopped liver, you risk becoming something quite other than kind and just and reasonable. And yeah, these are just offhand remarks not meant seriously, but that's what bothers me-- that people don't think it's important, really, that they allow raging biases to fester unchecked and unnoticed.
I was trying to think of whether I wanted Voldemort vaporized or whatever (aside from assuming he would be), and realized I didn't care as long as he was neutralized & not a threat. Man, I was just really disturbed by that random person taking their dislike of Slughorn to a desire to see him splattered across the pavement (well, not that they said that, heheh, poetic license). This is sort of indicative of how people often relate to characters-- that is, processing and reacting to them as if they're people they know-- which is why it bothers me. Attachment & dislike of fictional characters is normal, but... it still freaks me out just how far people take it. (And I shouldn't talk, I mean, I cuddle my Harry plushie, you know. In fact, my plushie wants a cuddle right now.....)
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Also, I don't know whether to be sad or resigned that I really liked the fake!Felton gay pr0n shots, but I liked the guy's blog even more (it's just so cute how he keeps mentioning his boyfriend, heheh, who's totally dark-haired and hot and, um, I'll stop before I incriminate myself further). And now Draco-the-gay-pr0n-star won't leave me alone. It's slightly more creative than rentboy!Draco, and, ahahaha oh, if played for crack & laughs is could be hilarious-- I mean, especially if he really digs it like this guy does (likes the attention, I'd bet). Oh, Harry would so drop dead, y'know, accidentally coming across a Muggle mag and BAM :D
(In my head he wouldn't do it for money, y'know, but just 'cause he doesn't want any wizard to know he's gay or whatever-- and he'd really enjoy it and, omg, I can just -see- it. Oh, fandom, I love you sometimes.)
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Date: 2005-09-30 06:22 am (UTC)But killing Sues is fuunnnn.
I always remember that in real life, these people may feel like that about 'terrorist scum' or whatever other kind of scum-- they may point at some 'evil no-good disgusting' person and not just want them brought to justice, but want them destroyed and/or humiliated-- and I wind up hating not the evil person but the supposedly good people who want them made into Kibbles 'n Bits.
Or maybe they just want to be entertained, or are being flippant because this is fandom, not reality. No, it's not important, because (repeat after me) this is fantasy.
Attachment & dislike of fictional characters is normal, but... it still freaks me out just how far people take it. (And I shouldn't talk, I mean, I cuddle my Harry plushie, you know. In fact, my plushie wants a cuddle right now.....)
So it's okay for people to ador & worship character A, but not for them to ragingly dislike character B? Okay then...
That pornstar's boyfriend looks like Hal Sparks (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005452/). Better photo than the IMDB one (http://www.centenary.edu/news/2005/March/0012_hal-sparks-W.jpg).
*whipcrack* You write pornstar!Draco fic NOW! *crack*
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Date: 2005-09-30 06:34 am (UTC)It's not that it's not okay to dislike characters-- I specifically said that was okay-- it's more the whole wishing them dead thing. I mentioned the Harry plushy to admit my own bias & say 'yeah, I know it's normal for a fan', blahblah. I was also trying to say 'I don't wish death even flippantly on people/characters I dislike'-- that's really all.
...Also, man, Hal Sparks (and Michael) are like... my idea of Ultimate In Unsexy, so I dunno if that helped :> Seriously, I just... really, uh, don't like Michael or his sex scenes or his attitude or whininess or... well, not that I wish him dead, but :))
Heheh, am tempted to write pornstar fic, I am :>
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Date: 2005-09-30 08:24 pm (UTC)~~
If there was one person Harry had never needed to see in the altogether, it was Malfoy. Umbridge, Dumbledore and assorted house-elves aside, this was something else. This was -Malfoy-, undeniably-- Malfoy.
Stark.
Bollock.
Naked.
That is, except for the pants around his thighs and his trousers down his knees and the bloke attached to his-- his--
Harry almost fell over when he saw it, and his throat worked with no sound emerging. He knew he should've laughed, or-- something. All conscious thought not-- otherwise occupied was painfully aware he should be snickering and thinking something about how Ron would get a right chuckle at that git's expense out of this. He stood frozen in horror, waiting for the disgust or the joke or-- something-- to hit him, and all he could see was that pained-looking sneer on Malfoy's face with his head thrown back, the arch of his neck as he clutched the man's face to his-- Between his thighs.
His fingertips skidded on the sleek paper of the magazine as he tried not to choke. He knew he was gaping like the village idiot, but he couldn't help it, not when-- well. No one should have to witness this-- this sort of-- thing. Gag gifts and stag nights aside, this was-- he was probably permanently scarred. In fact, Harry would've seriously considered Obliviating himself if he wasn't smack in the middle of a Muggle London sex-shop and growing a tad too hysterical to trust himself with a wand.
It was just-- so wrong. So -filthy- and wrong and-- disgusting-- and what was he -thinking-, and he should probably look away now.
There was a discreet cough behind him and Harry started violently, nearly jumping out of his own skin. He slapped the magazine shut, but for no discernable reason, was now clutching it in front of his crotch. Oh God, why couldn't he just drop dead and be done with it?
"Are you going to buy that?" The clerk smirked at him. Smirked! Like he -knew-. Well, of course he knew, this sort of thing probably happened all the time around here. Harry suppressed a groan.
One thing was clear in the panicked haze that was his mind: he had to get out of here -now-. "Uh--" he coughed. "Yeah, um--"
"Then come with me," said the boy, flashing that little smirk again as Harry followed the pierced wonder to the register.
"Here's your receipt," the other said, looking almost innocent.
Harry looked down, eyes widening at the number scrawled on the bottom.
"Give me a ring if you want a chap to take care of that for you," he grinned, glancing down meaningfully.
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Date: 2005-10-01 01:06 am (UTC)PR0N! You write Harry so wonderfully. Stupid bumblingclosetHarry XD. ♥ you. *cling*no subject
Date: 2005-09-30 08:52 pm (UTC)Oh god, I hope you realize that attitude is considered crazy by large parts of the HP fandom? How many times have I heard arguments made on the idea that everyone would respond to someone who was bad by wanting to see them tortured and killed and they're lying if they claim otherwise. Some people do not get the "I don't care if he's killed as long as he's neutralized/not a threat." Granted I don't get their attitude either, but I get it intellectually. I accept that it's real.
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Date: 2005-10-01 07:54 am (UTC)