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Seeker, who writes my idea of the best H/S smut like, -ever-, apparently wrote H/D on a challenge.

...Where Snape is Harry's father.



...lifesohard!!

See, most people don't seem to understand this point of view, but I think smut should actually be more precisely and professionally written than uh, 'normal' fic. It is not, or shouldn't be, easier to get 'right'. There's this overwhelming philosophy that it's all about the kink-- that if you say act/situation X is going on and that's what the reader wanted to imagine, that's all any reader could hope to ask for. Argh. This is the sort of attitude that makes 95% of all smut suck so bad 'cause it's written even more sloppily than 'normal' fics. And all it really takes is a little genuine feel for language in general, I think. I suppose this is like railing at the horrible abuses of basic anatomy in a lot of manga; just because you're an artist doesn't mean you can draw well, etc. Well, but at least I can tell when I've messed up and wouldn't publish it if I thought it sucked....

In other news, sometimes I get so frustrated I want to like, ban usage of certain terms for sexual organs in fics. Especially when they're overused (as in, five times per paragraph and sometimes 2 per sentence), words like 'arousal' and 'wetness'... why do people use them?! Why? I do not understand! Why do you hurt me so? Why-- why, god? I mean, smut-writer!

Leaving aside the glorious simplicity of using 'penis' and 'vagina' if you're feeling really uninspired, I've decided that the really cool people will just use Japanese. Nothing beats "chinko". (Plural, "chinkos".)

And you can call people "chinko-head!!" in public so easily. Just think of it! The freedom!


...This post brought to you by rather odd sleep patterns and too much sugar. And really bad porn everywhere, from sea to shining sea.

Date: 2005-04-10 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
I really don't care about Harry and Snape one way or the other, I just care about good writing -.- Plus it hurts my head, the idea that Snape is his father... just ruins a fic for me, and smut... it -really- doesn't belong with. Well, I think I was kind of on crack when I thought Seeker was good, anyway... er. There were a lot of stupid challenges that fic tried to meet. Not that I was reccing it anyway.

Date: 2005-04-10 08:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
yeah, i was kind of wondering about Seeker being so good people would want her writing their ship :P though you should take pride in reccing this fic, like whoever came up with the severitus challenge should take pride in it. i want a dracocus challenge, where harry's draco's dad because of a time warp and lucius being really a woman... of course there would be crack incest involved...

i know you care about good writing, but people are becoming more and more humourless when it comes to badfic, it's sort of sad.

Date: 2005-04-10 08:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
I seem to remember liking a fic she wrote once... or rather, I remember it being on my rec list... it's been about 2 years since I'd read H/S smut -.- I think I only read like, three H/S writers regularly... haha, plus sometimes a writer's good with one pairing and crap with others... it could happen. ^^;;

I didn't rec it! I wouldn't pretend I didn't if I did. I linked to it while saying 'omg, lifesohard' and I liked Seeker's other smut. That's not a rec. Maybe by some people's really loose standards, but I actually care when I really rec something... like, I actually say something about the fic ^^;; It's like anything I link is seen as a rec... where the truth is, I'm a compulsive linker. I got this journal initially just to be a weblog-- and basically, logging the things I come across on the web in one way or the other is still my most natural inclination with it.

I've never really felt like making fun of badfic unless it is unintentionally actually funny or it's so bad it's like it's actually written by monkeys on crack... it hurts me too much to read it if I'm feeling sensitive. Not that Seeker is badfic per se, anyway, just mediocre. If I were to mock it, however, it wouldn't be enough to just take it 'lightly'-- I'd be more amused if it was actually MST3K'ed.

Besides, I don't find Severus-as-Harry's-father funny, I guess, 'cause... well it's not -that- ridiculous...? It's just distasteful/stupid to me rather than totally cracked out, 'cause theoretically you can write a serious fic about it, unlike say, Veela Draco.

Also, I'm not 'people' all by myself, and I think people will always be split between taking things too seriously and mocking everything in sight, just depends on your personality. Generally, I'd say I do neither, though I only mock when I'm really pissed, and the Severitus thing is more 'wtf?' than really something that pisses me off enough to mock. I didn't even know the name of the challenge till you told me-- I found this fic searching google for Harry, Draco & thrust. ^^; ('Cause I'm simple-minded like that.)

Date: 2005-04-10 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
sigh.

i didn't mean you recced it, i said that for shit and giggles. and of course there's things worth to be taken seriously in fandom and fanfic writing, but something as silly as snape being harry's dad just isn't to me -- which i am saying just to explain why i cracked a joke in the first place. maybe we just have different perspective on the whole harry and snape relationship and snape? i know a lot of people only can see draco as the funny guy, and well, i feel almost the same about snape. so when they told me about the severitus challenge the first time i just laughed and laughed and laughed. YMMV. well, that's a tangent.

to sum it up, maybe it's not good to mock anything in sight, but you're taking all too seriously, or maybe just what i say. lighten up!

Date: 2005-04-10 08:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Eh, shaggirl thought I recced it so I was defensive ^^;
I do think I take the things you say too seriously 'cause I get defensive when I'm teased unless it's really overtly light-hearted. Your jokes are more deadpan/mocking than silly...? It works better if I'm RPing Harry (sometimes) 'cause he can be biting/mock right back or whatever, whereas I just don't go into that mode. I'm pretty light-hearted most of the time, I think, actually-- it's just that my sense of humor is pretty silly (the chinko thing is a prime example-- but then you rarely respond to the parts -I- was joking about). And by silly I actually mean cutely silly, which is what that word makes me think of. I think it clashes with a certain type of sarcasm.

What I'm trying to say is, I can seem oversensitive, but it's not something I can control by lightening up, because in all actuality I'm already nearly constantly amusing myself or being amused. And I think I said 'Severus' because I kept seeing 'Severitus' over & over. ^^;

Date: 2005-04-10 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
words...

Date: 2005-04-10 09:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
by which i mean 1) i really wasn't going for discussion with this so 2) too many words for someone who's not taking the joke about the snarry daddy incest seriously :D

there's no shame in taking things too seriously. it makes you a gray character!! i take sasuke's fangirls too seriously, for example.

Date: 2005-04-10 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
... you're calling him "severus"! omg.

Date: 2005-04-10 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
I think also, I was/am just confused by the whole emphasis on the challenge and whether I do or don't take 'Harry and Snape' seriously, which is like a non-sequitir to me in this context-- meaning, I know I implied I couldn't enjoy a fic with it, but that was specifically because it was in what I saw as a smutfic to start with. What I care about in this context is smut. The fact that it's a silly challenge interferes with the fic being hot, but otherwise means nothing to me, I guess? So while to you, the challenge seemed noteworthy in its silliness at least, I didn't care long enough to even focus on it.

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