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Escapism: I want this to be true, therefore I'll pretend it is for a while, and feel really good before I have to return to the real world. The real world may not be preferrable to my fantasy, but there's no escaping the difference between truth and... that stuff you made up.

Denial: I want this to be true, therefore it is, and I shall now go on and conduct my life with the presumption that it's true. Because it makes me feel better, and also because I am god. I said so, after all.



Why people don't seem to understand the difference between these two modes, I shall never want to really understand.

Another thing I'll be in denial about is why people know they're biased and yet cling to their bias without bothering to challenge it within themselves.

I sort of hate the world sometimes. And by 'world' I really mean that I prefer the horrid, stifling sensation of near-100% humidity and a lack of a fan anywhere in range to the feeling I get trying to understand how some people think.

And it's not even enough for me to bitch and say 'people are stupid'. That doesn't cover it, somehow, because people appear to choose by willfully denying (not just avoiding! not just escaping!) certain facts of life. I dunno.

I think I'm just doomed to spend lots of time beating my head against a metaphorical wall. I mean, I'd find a real wall, but there's too much porn to read, so I get distracted.

And no, this isn't even about fandom. Just. There's so much I love about people, and yet. Ahhh, they hurt my brain....

Date: 2005-07-29 09:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
I suspect I am worse than you 'cause lately I've been willingly walking into the lion's den, also known as journals of people I don't trust to be sane :> And then sometimes sane people I like talk freely with delusional poeople & find a common language, and I stare and try to follow, but -can't-. It's... scary, in a way.

(People's ideas -are- a virus!! That's really what it is! I feel pretty infected if I don't purge myself!! That's why I -have- this lj these days, ahahah. Though I always wanna give people the benefit of the doubt, otherwise I fear I shall start believing things I wanna be true, at which point you could just shoot me.)

...I've been eating lots of almonds in lieu of sugar, though that's not really the same -.-;

Date: 2005-07-29 09:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blacksatinrose.livejournal.com
I suspect I am worse than you 'cause lately I've been willingly walking into the lion's den, also known as journals of people I don't trust to be sane :>

Reena, I hang around Brian/Michael communities. You're not worse than I am.

And no, I mean the people themselves are a virus. I REALLY hate people. LMAO!

But I give people the benefit of the doubt, too. Just because otherwise one is giving in to their own biases which is, you know, sucky. LMAO

... how the HELL do almonds stand in for sugar? OMG REENA INSANE.

Date: 2005-07-29 09:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
See, see, I know I'm insane, BUT AT LEAST I KNOW >:D Clearly, that means I'm much superior :)) Well, starch can sometimes fill me up when sugar's not around to make me high :> But really, those two things were not related, except I really wanted sugar but the almonds were -there- y'know. In -quantity- :> I take what I can get! :>

And what really scares me is when these biased people are actually a lot more rational/linear in their thinking, so they -should- be able to be like, OMG WHAT AM I SAYING, I'M ACCEPTING THIS HUGE BIAS AS IF I CAN EVER TRUST MY OWN JUDGMENT ON THIS TOPIC AGAIN!!1 (That is, everyone has biases, but if you at least don't accept them wholesale, maaaybe you can work around them...)

...You know, you'd be pretty scary if you were evil :))

Date: 2005-07-29 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blacksatinrose.livejournal.com
Well, just not being a blatant asswipe with cow dung for brains makes you superior to most people anyway. :p

But yeah, sometimes people who are theoretically rational are 1) not, really and 2) cursed by their rationality in that it allows them to, well, rationalize. Know what I mean?

(That is, everyone has biases, but if you at least don't accept them wholesale, maaaybe you can work around them...)

You'd think people would get that.

But I think some people just literally don't care that they're biased. And by "some people" I mean "most people." I've known people to celebrate their biases. I don't get it, but then I'm me so I wouldn't.

...You know, you'd be pretty scary if you were evil :))

Heh. I've been told I'm pretty scary now, actually.

And who says I'm not evil? :p

Date: 2005-07-29 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
What really boggles me is when 'rational' people turn around and blithely say things like, 'but I hate this idea/person/character, therefore I will keep my opinion as is'. -.- WHY -.-

See, there's this difference between bias as in, 'I really love fluffy kittens, and would go out of my way to pet them-- I'd go to Germany to pet them!' or 'I am obsessed with C++ and will therefore concentrate on it 80% of the time I'm awake and not wash, because who cares about washing' and... that thing where you engage in faulty rather than just non-reasoning. Or something.

I can see celebrating biases as in, you like chocolate & I like strawberry. But it's just not the same when you add 'therefore I am right and you're wrong', or something. That's going beyond loving your bias and into... becomin the sex-slave of your bias, letting it slap you around and call you Willy. :>

And yeah, I don't get not caring if you're delusional just because the world makes sense to you already, so who cares? Argh. Like this person who seemed to think it made life -simpler- to ignore Sirius was dead in canon o_0 Why o_0 I DO NOT KNOW. o_0 WHY :(( (I think 'don't ask why' is the major operative here. Like, why think too hard? YOU JUST THOUGHT FIVE YEARS AGO, IT SHOULD BE ENOUGH.)

Heheh, you're just harsh, not evil. Evil people are delusional & self-righteous :D That would probably be too illogical for you :))

Date: 2005-07-29 10:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blacksatinrose.livejournal.com
DUDE I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S WHY I HATE PEOPLE. THEY MAKE ME CRAZY WITH THEIR OMGWTF MINDS.

I can see celebrating biases as in, you like chocolate & I like strawberry. But it's just not the same when you add 'therefore I am right and you're wrong', or something.

Yeah, see that's not a bias, that's a preference. If, on the other hand, I were to start from the assumption that chocolate is superior to strawberry (because I like it better!) and base all my reasoning on 1) my need to justify my preference as objective fact and 2) the assumption that it already is objective fact then that's FUCKED.

And yeah I'm harsh. Well, I'm tired so uh, all my normal softness has bled away.

Evil people are delusional & self-righteous :D That would probably be too illogical for you :))

You said it, yo.

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