(...aaaand, it's feed-Reena's-ego time!)
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reenkaAhahah, what the hell. I like to think I'm 'not this sort of girl', but really, isn't everyone? Some of us just are more easily embarrassed than others. I think my sense of shame kind of comes and goes. But mostly goes. Far far away.
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sistermagpie:
1. When did you first "friend" me?
2. Why did you first "friend" me?
3. What posts of mine do you like to read the best?
4. What would you like me to write about that I don't?
5. Do you think we would be friends in real life?
6. How often do you read my journal?
7. What do we have in common?
8. Will you post this in your journal so I can answer?
9. If I were an HP character, who would I be?
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Just so I don't feel this post is wasted, a follow-up to a recent post:
Readingnatlyn's post on different kinds of fen, it occurs to me that part of the reason I find it difficult to find/get into a new fandom from the plethora that are out there is that are out there is that I'm just not a media fan-- that is, it's not precisely natural to me to watch a TV show in progress and want to read fic for it. I mean, I'm much more likely to get into a movie (or a book) fandom, or a fandom for a show that's long over (and I can't watch now if I hadn't then), because I'd already have a sort of... set canon which wouldn't be constantly... in my face, I guess?
I realize I was talking about the process of putting the canon 'out of one's mind' when dealing with fanfic (and fanon), but of course you can't do that in the (great majority) of fandoms where the canon is constantly changing and current.
And I really wonder if the fics written for these fandoms and the typical fannish relationship with the canon are just-- different. My intuition says they are. It'd be more like participating, then, wouldn't it? Any desire to really subvert the canon would take a different route if you had new canon to contradict you every week. It's just really odd to realize how... unique this situation is, with a canon that feels solid for several years, but isn't. Like, there's time for a rift to set in-- time for things to be twisted and misplaced and remade into fanon that's able to contest its source in the fen's minds.
So now I'm wondering if this sort of... mental separation of the canon from the slash/fic-reading is because a lot of fandom's canon sources kind of... suck otherwise. I myself could never get into most fandoms 'cause I can't bear to see a whole show's worth of material (that's... many many viewing hours) just for the slashy bits. And neither could I even read 1 book just for the sake of slash, because my attention span is just that fickle. So if I am going to get into a show-- I'm unlikely to ship a slash pairing unless the character has no other close canon relationship I like in the slightest. Like in the LoTR movies, say-- it's blissfully easy to ship Merry/Pippin because it's close enough to canon-- but I didn't need to read slash because the canon was satisfying enough, which tends to happen with movies & shows I really like.
Anyway, that post kind of placed my main point here in a larger, or at least more coherent, context-- of media fan --> fic fan (and I'm pretty close to the slash end of things with the gen --> slash spectrum, but only in fandoms where I'm a not into the media/canon). I mean, it's a spectrum, not an either/or-- I didn't really mean to imply that it was an either/or, just that they're opposite sides. Yes.
This is, btw, why I often say that I'm just not a fan of -any- media, if by 'fan' you mean someone who sees a show or reads a book, loves it, and therefore needs to engage in fannish 'activities' like ficcing or vidding or going to cons.
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Also:cordelia_v's Snape vs. Spock comparison essay pretty much kills me. I mean, I know I always said that if I had a 'type' within the Potterverse it'd be Snape, and omg, I did always know that there's -something- familiar there, but to equate him to Spock directly just makes me titter madly. Mind you, this is someone who's had a mammoth, 3-4 year crush on Spock throughout High School. Imagining having a crush of that caliber on Snape makes me... wig out. I mean... I won't even say how far it went, because it's just that embarrassing.
The only problem as I see it is that Snape's only logical when it suits him, which makes him an impostor. An impostor, I say!
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sistermagpie:1. When did you first "friend" me?
2. Why did you first "friend" me?
3. What posts of mine do you like to read the best?
4. What would you like me to write about that I don't?
5. Do you think we would be friends in real life?
6. How often do you read my journal?
7. What do we have in common?
8. Will you post this in your journal so I can answer?
9. If I were an HP character, who would I be?
~~
Just so I don't feel this post is wasted, a follow-up to a recent post:
Reading
natlyn's post on different kinds of fen, it occurs to me that part of the reason I find it difficult to find/get into a new fandom from the plethora that are out there is that are out there is that I'm just not a media fan-- that is, it's not precisely natural to me to watch a TV show in progress and want to read fic for it. I mean, I'm much more likely to get into a movie (or a book) fandom, or a fandom for a show that's long over (and I can't watch now if I hadn't then), because I'd already have a sort of... set canon which wouldn't be constantly... in my face, I guess?I realize I was talking about the process of putting the canon 'out of one's mind' when dealing with fanfic (and fanon), but of course you can't do that in the (great majority) of fandoms where the canon is constantly changing and current.
And I really wonder if the fics written for these fandoms and the typical fannish relationship with the canon are just-- different. My intuition says they are. It'd be more like participating, then, wouldn't it? Any desire to really subvert the canon would take a different route if you had new canon to contradict you every week. It's just really odd to realize how... unique this situation is, with a canon that feels solid for several years, but isn't. Like, there's time for a rift to set in-- time for things to be twisted and misplaced and remade into fanon that's able to contest its source in the fen's minds.
So now I'm wondering if this sort of... mental separation of the canon from the slash/fic-reading is because a lot of fandom's canon sources kind of... suck otherwise. I myself could never get into most fandoms 'cause I can't bear to see a whole show's worth of material (that's... many many viewing hours) just for the slashy bits. And neither could I even read 1 book just for the sake of slash, because my attention span is just that fickle. So if I am going to get into a show-- I'm unlikely to ship a slash pairing unless the character has no other close canon relationship I like in the slightest. Like in the LoTR movies, say-- it's blissfully easy to ship Merry/Pippin because it's close enough to canon-- but I didn't need to read slash because the canon was satisfying enough, which tends to happen with movies & shows I really like.
Anyway, that post kind of placed my main point here in a larger, or at least more coherent, context-- of media fan --> fic fan (and I'm pretty close to the slash end of things with the gen --> slash spectrum, but only in fandoms where I'm a not into the media/canon). I mean, it's a spectrum, not an either/or-- I didn't really mean to imply that it was an either/or, just that they're opposite sides. Yes.
This is, btw, why I often say that I'm just not a fan of -any- media, if by 'fan' you mean someone who sees a show or reads a book, loves it, and therefore needs to engage in fannish 'activities' like ficcing or vidding or going to cons.
~~
Also:
cordelia_v's Snape vs. Spock comparison essay pretty much kills me. I mean, I know I always said that if I had a 'type' within the Potterverse it'd be Snape, and omg, I did always know that there's -something- familiar there, but to equate him to Spock directly just makes me titter madly. Mind you, this is someone who's had a mammoth, 3-4 year crush on Spock throughout High School. Imagining having a crush of that caliber on Snape makes me... wig out. I mean... I won't even say how far it went, because it's just that embarrassing.The only problem as I see it is that Snape's only logical when it suits him, which makes him an impostor. An impostor, I say!
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Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:31 am (UTC)THE BLUSHING BRIDE LFKDJas;Sfkjafsk jd ;lkdaf ;lfkjnlfksajds ;oflgka I NEED THIS LIKE CRACK.
*HAS NO ICON WORTHY OF THIS*
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:32 am (UTC)Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:34 am (UTC)Anyway, what Draco really wants is to be fucked while wearing Pansy's wedding dress.
'Cause Harry crashed the party, and it's really the only sensible course of action.
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:39 am (UTC)But I like this The graduate scenario. Plus, crossdressed Draco is always hot whatever dress he's wearing, but a wedding dress would be so desecrating.
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:44 am (UTC)It's not that I want them to -be- married. They can get sober and get divorced the next day, it doesn't matter. I just want to see Harry in a tux, flushed and nervous, and Draco even -more- sick & nauseous (and fine, about to marry Pansy), but then Harry barges in and announces he objects & wants to marry Draco-- and Draco's like, NO-- and Harry's like, DON'T ARGUE. And finally the pastor or whoever tells them to settle their argument outside or in some side room or something, & they fuck right there. Except I dunno how Draco gets the dress on. Hmmm. Maybe Harry conjures it >:D Mmmm, the desecration is the point.
Harry wants to desecrate him until Draco's whimpering with both humiliation & release. And moaning loud enough for Pansy to hear.
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:49 am (UTC)Harry's a prick to Pansy, though.
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:52 am (UTC)And really, I think Harry wants to get married.
Possibly to Draco. Maybe. If he ever gets over himself.
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:54 am (UTC)You should write the Graduate fic though.
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:56 am (UTC)...Harry would break up.
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:58 am (UTC)IT'S AGAINST MY WORK ETHICS AS A FANFIC WRITER.
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 01:00 am (UTC)*Harry takes Draco & runs away from us both*
...I really feel that's the best ending :> :>
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 01:10 am (UTC)I feel like the best ending for Harry and Draco is something like the ending of QaF UK.
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 01:13 am (UTC)I kind of like them being old together, driving each other insane into actual senility <3 heheh
I mean, it seems Draco doesn't mind and I think Harry wants to settle down one day, so it'll prolly happen if they survive a relationship past 5 years or so :> Neither of us need to bear witness of course.
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 01:52 am (UTC)