(...aaaand, it's feed-Reena's-ego time!)
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reenkaAhahah, what the hell. I like to think I'm 'not this sort of girl', but really, isn't everyone? Some of us just are more easily embarrassed than others. I think my sense of shame kind of comes and goes. But mostly goes. Far far away.
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sistermagpie:
1. When did you first "friend" me?
2. Why did you first "friend" me?
3. What posts of mine do you like to read the best?
4. What would you like me to write about that I don't?
5. Do you think we would be friends in real life?
6. How often do you read my journal?
7. What do we have in common?
8. Will you post this in your journal so I can answer?
9. If I were an HP character, who would I be?
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Just so I don't feel this post is wasted, a follow-up to a recent post:
Readingnatlyn's post on different kinds of fen, it occurs to me that part of the reason I find it difficult to find/get into a new fandom from the plethora that are out there is that are out there is that I'm just not a media fan-- that is, it's not precisely natural to me to watch a TV show in progress and want to read fic for it. I mean, I'm much more likely to get into a movie (or a book) fandom, or a fandom for a show that's long over (and I can't watch now if I hadn't then), because I'd already have a sort of... set canon which wouldn't be constantly... in my face, I guess?
I realize I was talking about the process of putting the canon 'out of one's mind' when dealing with fanfic (and fanon), but of course you can't do that in the (great majority) of fandoms where the canon is constantly changing and current.
And I really wonder if the fics written for these fandoms and the typical fannish relationship with the canon are just-- different. My intuition says they are. It'd be more like participating, then, wouldn't it? Any desire to really subvert the canon would take a different route if you had new canon to contradict you every week. It's just really odd to realize how... unique this situation is, with a canon that feels solid for several years, but isn't. Like, there's time for a rift to set in-- time for things to be twisted and misplaced and remade into fanon that's able to contest its source in the fen's minds.
So now I'm wondering if this sort of... mental separation of the canon from the slash/fic-reading is because a lot of fandom's canon sources kind of... suck otherwise. I myself could never get into most fandoms 'cause I can't bear to see a whole show's worth of material (that's... many many viewing hours) just for the slashy bits. And neither could I even read 1 book just for the sake of slash, because my attention span is just that fickle. So if I am going to get into a show-- I'm unlikely to ship a slash pairing unless the character has no other close canon relationship I like in the slightest. Like in the LoTR movies, say-- it's blissfully easy to ship Merry/Pippin because it's close enough to canon-- but I didn't need to read slash because the canon was satisfying enough, which tends to happen with movies & shows I really like.
Anyway, that post kind of placed my main point here in a larger, or at least more coherent, context-- of media fan --> fic fan (and I'm pretty close to the slash end of things with the gen --> slash spectrum, but only in fandoms where I'm a not into the media/canon). I mean, it's a spectrum, not an either/or-- I didn't really mean to imply that it was an either/or, just that they're opposite sides. Yes.
This is, btw, why I often say that I'm just not a fan of -any- media, if by 'fan' you mean someone who sees a show or reads a book, loves it, and therefore needs to engage in fannish 'activities' like ficcing or vidding or going to cons.
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Also:cordelia_v's Snape vs. Spock comparison essay pretty much kills me. I mean, I know I always said that if I had a 'type' within the Potterverse it'd be Snape, and omg, I did always know that there's -something- familiar there, but to equate him to Spock directly just makes me titter madly. Mind you, this is someone who's had a mammoth, 3-4 year crush on Spock throughout High School. Imagining having a crush of that caliber on Snape makes me... wig out. I mean... I won't even say how far it went, because it's just that embarrassing.
The only problem as I see it is that Snape's only logical when it suits him, which makes him an impostor. An impostor, I say!
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sistermagpie:1. When did you first "friend" me?
2. Why did you first "friend" me?
3. What posts of mine do you like to read the best?
4. What would you like me to write about that I don't?
5. Do you think we would be friends in real life?
6. How often do you read my journal?
7. What do we have in common?
8. Will you post this in your journal so I can answer?
9. If I were an HP character, who would I be?
~~
Just so I don't feel this post is wasted, a follow-up to a recent post:
Reading
natlyn's post on different kinds of fen, it occurs to me that part of the reason I find it difficult to find/get into a new fandom from the plethora that are out there is that are out there is that I'm just not a media fan-- that is, it's not precisely natural to me to watch a TV show in progress and want to read fic for it. I mean, I'm much more likely to get into a movie (or a book) fandom, or a fandom for a show that's long over (and I can't watch now if I hadn't then), because I'd already have a sort of... set canon which wouldn't be constantly... in my face, I guess?I realize I was talking about the process of putting the canon 'out of one's mind' when dealing with fanfic (and fanon), but of course you can't do that in the (great majority) of fandoms where the canon is constantly changing and current.
And I really wonder if the fics written for these fandoms and the typical fannish relationship with the canon are just-- different. My intuition says they are. It'd be more like participating, then, wouldn't it? Any desire to really subvert the canon would take a different route if you had new canon to contradict you every week. It's just really odd to realize how... unique this situation is, with a canon that feels solid for several years, but isn't. Like, there's time for a rift to set in-- time for things to be twisted and misplaced and remade into fanon that's able to contest its source in the fen's minds.
So now I'm wondering if this sort of... mental separation of the canon from the slash/fic-reading is because a lot of fandom's canon sources kind of... suck otherwise. I myself could never get into most fandoms 'cause I can't bear to see a whole show's worth of material (that's... many many viewing hours) just for the slashy bits. And neither could I even read 1 book just for the sake of slash, because my attention span is just that fickle. So if I am going to get into a show-- I'm unlikely to ship a slash pairing unless the character has no other close canon relationship I like in the slightest. Like in the LoTR movies, say-- it's blissfully easy to ship Merry/Pippin because it's close enough to canon-- but I didn't need to read slash because the canon was satisfying enough, which tends to happen with movies & shows I really like.
Anyway, that post kind of placed my main point here in a larger, or at least more coherent, context-- of media fan --> fic fan (and I'm pretty close to the slash end of things with the gen --> slash spectrum, but only in fandoms where I'm a not into the media/canon). I mean, it's a spectrum, not an either/or-- I didn't really mean to imply that it was an either/or, just that they're opposite sides. Yes.
This is, btw, why I often say that I'm just not a fan of -any- media, if by 'fan' you mean someone who sees a show or reads a book, loves it, and therefore needs to engage in fannish 'activities' like ficcing or vidding or going to cons.
~~
Also:
cordelia_v's Snape vs. Spock comparison essay pretty much kills me. I mean, I know I always said that if I had a 'type' within the Potterverse it'd be Snape, and omg, I did always know that there's -something- familiar there, but to equate him to Spock directly just makes me titter madly. Mind you, this is someone who's had a mammoth, 3-4 year crush on Spock throughout High School. Imagining having a crush of that caliber on Snape makes me... wig out. I mean... I won't even say how far it went, because it's just that embarrassing.The only problem as I see it is that Snape's only logical when it suits him, which makes him an impostor. An impostor, I say!
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Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:27 am (UTC)I think Draco wants to get married to Harry.
And have his babiez.
HE SO DOES :)))!!!!!
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:28 am (UTC)What does Harry say?
I think Kirk was because of these:
doing something with others, like attending a party.
assume a leadership position to ensure work is coordinated efficiently.
whatever is the greatest benefit to society.
sensitive and caring.
Yes, it would help turn things around.
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:35 am (UTC)Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:40 am (UTC)IN A JAR.
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:45 am (UTC)Really, that would be Draco's own punishment :>
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:47 am (UTC)Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:48 am (UTC)Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:50 am (UTC)Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:55 am (UTC)Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 12:59 am (UTC)Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 01:01 am (UTC)And Harry knows Draco likes it.
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 01:08 am (UTC)Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 01:10 am (UTC)Besides, I think Harry gets off as much or more on how much Draco likes it than on the humiliation itself, really. It's seeing Draco sort of... turn into a whimpering begging mass of goo that he likes.
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 01:13 am (UTC)But Draco doesn't get it that it's teasing. :(((((((
Maybe they SHOULD have sex all the time. In their shack on the mountain top. Hermits sex mmmmmmmmh.
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 01:16 am (UTC)Harry likes it that Draco overreacts to everything, and hates it at the same time. He likes to see Draco squirm and act all indignant and then give in anyway.
Re: i don't understand
Date: 2004-11-16 01:38 am (UTC)Though I don't think Draco would.