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[reenka]

...I just had the most disturbing vision out of the corner of my eye, of my plushie!Harry with long wild black hair o_0 Y'know, but still with his messed-up striped t-shirt & jeans & glasses & stuff.

As flash occurred, I realized I would possibly adore girl!Harry even more than boy!Harry, in a way. In an OMG CRUSH sort of way o_0 He's just. My darling as a boy, but as a girl he's. Just. Dude. Breasts o_0 Awkwardness. Still wearing boy clothes. And blushing a lot. And still being very angry. And punching Ron for staring. And. Suddenly getting weird reactions about... boys. Which may or may not have always been there. And. Liking Ginny more. And. Omg, breasts.


Feel like the biggest perv that ever lived o_0 I know Silvia wrote it, but see. This is less about the funny (though still funny) and more about the. Y'know. Sex. And gender-bending. And Harry not being gorgeous! Just lanky & skinny & with wild hair & small breasts & still the urge to kick things. Like, he's totally the same except. Y'know. Yeah.

Girl!Harry & Hermione, ack. He'd like-- go to her for advice and-- stuff-- and-- fumbling would occur, and. It would be so awkward! And. Hot! And Ron! Poor Ron, with the staring and the being rather awkward and messed with and. Ack! And. Draco would. Be so confused. And angry. And confused. And how could he act the same way? Potter is a GIRL! It's just. Too weird. So. He just. Avoids. And wanks. And stalks, like in the shower or something. o_0

Seriously have to fight urge to write girl!Harry. Ack. Someone talk me out of this...! Please.

Wah. Okay I think I've purged it. 'Cause clearly it's not going anywhere, it's just-- ack short skirts & knobby knees...! And Draco like, fainting (and we can't forget Ron-- what with the wanting to grope Harry's breasts 'cause they're mates & that's the sort of favor one would expect), and Hermione being protective (or possessive! Harry, you must take care of yourself now that you're one of us!) and Ginny deciding she's gay (well, she is in my head) and. Omg. Everyone Wants Harry = Reena Is Ever So Lame. It's just. I can't decide who to pair her with-- I just think everyone would be confused, it's not that they all want her. It's just that... hormones are everywhere. And she wanks a lot. And possibly I could see it being H/D but mostly. Girl!Harry. Still angry. Ack. And violent! And. Getting into physical fights!! Omg. See, this is why I should be asleep now. Bad Reena, no Mary-Sue!Harry for you. *slaps own wrist*
~~

PS. potter_mouth can most definitely have my babies anytime, anywhere. Forget about that girl!Harry thing, I'm totally sold on the testosterone overload, I really am. CALL ME, BABY. :-*
    I mean, it's likely enough you like boys, but you being fictional & me being creative, we can work something out, non?

Comments

[sarvihaara.livejournal.com]

Just lanky & skinny & with wild hair & small breasts & still the urge to kick things. Like, he's totally the same except.

*dies* God yes. That is the most wonderful image.

Seriously have to fight urge to write girl!Harry.

Please don't fight it, please write!

[lestrange.livejournal.com]

Oh, Reena, WHY are you fighting it, WHY?

*begs prettily, like a girl*

Reeeeeena. OMG, confused!Malfoy! OMGGGGGGGG!!! That line just says it all for me, right there.

*pokes gently, but persistently*

*poke*

*pokepoke*

*pokepokepoke*

*poooooooooooooooooooke*

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

heh. Well, I have many other things to write, mostly. Also, my Draco is never -not- confused, he just -thinks- he knows everything :D

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

teehee! Possibly I will at one point, when I want to indulge my unsavory Harry-fancying tendencies ;))

[strawberry-snow.livejournal.com]

Omg, that's so cute. XD And I love how you write-- "And. Hot! And Ron! Poor Ron, with the staring and the being rather awkward and messed with and. Ack! And. And how could he act the same way? Potter is a GIRL! It's just. Too weird. So. He just. Avoids. And wanks. And stalks, like in the shower or something." Lmao. XD

Dude, I wanna Girl!Harry. ^___^

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

Teehee! :D :D!!
You can have one, but I hope they come in batches, 'cause I'm not letting go of mine ;))

[strawberry-snow.livejournal.com]

Omg, I'm an idiot. XD I meant to say "I wanna draw Girl!Harry". XD

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

Oh! Hahah, well, certainly not stopping you from -that-!!1 *beams*

[strawberry-snow.livejournal.com]

Yo. You still here? :3

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

...yes. where would I go? Oh, sleep y'mean. Well, other people do that. Those people aren't me >:D

[strawberry-snow.livejournal.com]

*lmao*
Well, okay, then. :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/kyouki/HP_20040810_GirlHarry.jpg

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

*BOUNCES* Omg!! Duuude!!!!1 *SO DEAD OMG!!1*
!!!!
Am beaming like a lunatic right now >:D
AHAHA THE CUTESY LITTLE WAY SHE TIED HER...TIE!!1
OMG SHORT SKIRT :X :X :X
TOO GREAT >:D :D :D!!!!
*stares*
She's so pretty ...and witty... and bright....! <3<3!!

[strawberry-snow.livejournal.com]

XD ^_____^ Glad it amuses you. I was going to go for a sultrier Harry, or an angrier Harry (Harry...et? Too cliche. Holly? Hannah?), but that popped out first and I went "Aww, sod it."

girl!Harry!!!

[cellia.livejournal.com]

Do not attempt to resist the seductive power of the girl!Harry.

I think And Now For Something Completely Different might have the greatest ratio of fanart to text of any HP story ever. (It's very funny because I was thinking just that while brushing my teeth earlier today. I have most of my Harry Potter thoughts while brushing my teeth. Um. ^^;;)

Re: girl!Harry!!!

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

Heeeee. I know it's useless :D :D I dunno, it's just alluring in a way girl!Draco isn't. I mean, what's so different & special about girl!Draco. It's not like Harry would really care. Although. Maybe he might o_0 AHAHAH that's just sad though.
Anyway, this (http://reenka.expecto-patronum.net/hpics/yourownsize.jpg) is just me being lazy & the proportions are all weird & I can't foreshorten for the life of me, but. Still ^^

Re: girl!Harry!!!

[cellia.livejournal.com]

Here's hoping you have email notification... :D

Heee! Ah, girl!Harry. It warms my heart. I want to put together a girl!Harry gallery or something just so I can compare and contrast people's takes on him, uh, her.

Harry's still so grr in that pic; it makes me smile. He could be Sally Kimball to Hermione's Leroy Brown. H/D could be this generation's Lily/James. Hm, except James was clearly a winner, the cocky cool bastard. Draco is too twitchy and failure-prone. *cries as metaphors and comparisons collapse around her*

In any case, it is of the good that you drew girl!Harry.

*nods*

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[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

Grrr!Harry is my 'thing' lately, man. Every time I draw him, I wanna make him growl and shake his booty fist. Heheh THAT IS TOTALLY WHY I LOVE LILY/JAMES :D :D :D
It is so sad, but Lily/James is exactly the type of het pairing I go for (OMG SANA/HAYAMA & HYD~!!1) Er. Yeah, um. You might say that H/D is more like Snape/Lily, but that's okay, 'cause I also love Snape/Lily, wheeeeeee!! Ahem. Not that I'm 12 years old. Or anything.

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[cellia.livejournal.com]

Snape/Lily???

By any measure, that's just not fair to Lily man. Hm. Does this mean I should be mourning the charred remains of my H/D love? I cannot take H/D when Draco feels like a punishment for Harry. It makes me sad and petulant. (of course, I also cannot take it when the author turns it around and Draco is actually totally awesome and so heroic and we just never saw it because Harry is prejudiced against Slytherins or something...)


>.<

Any chance of girl!Harry fic? *dares you to make it Harry/Ron*

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[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

Hee! Charred remains, eh? :> No, I know what you mean, though I don't see Snape in a bad enough light to see him as a punishment for Lily-- if anything, he's prolly a 'better' match for someone than Draco, 'cause at least he's pretty intelligent & at least somewhat ethically aware...? But yeah... I mostly like Snape/Lily 'cause of my redemption-fic obsession and I think she could've been good for him, y'know. But I never seriously thought about it, honestly, and clearly I haven't read any fic. I don't really think it could work without being an AU, but in that Alternate Universe it could be interesting, though I like Lily/James (and the existence of Harry!) too much to mess with it, though if one was really perverse one could kill off James after Harry's born.... making Snape his stepfather... but uh, I'm not that cruel :>

Anyway, having any part of a pairing be a burden or a 'cause' for he other part is just ridiculous. I want Harry & Draco to find some sort of balance. I think I took your advice and went a long way towards explaining... things, with the Death Eater!Draco fic, by the way. I think it'll end up being like, 70 pages, but it'll be worth it, and it's all thanks to you <3<3 You're like, its fairy godmother now :D Plus, it kinda has a plot now o_0 And Nott! Seamus! Percy! Hermione~! And Pansy. And much much much more Harry. Hee. I did my homework :> So yes. We are on the same wavelength, never fear.

Afterwards I might right the H/R. I've been having small overtures of affection for H/R lately, and after my 70 page H/D monster, I'll need some comic relief, so maybe :D :D

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[cellia.livejournal.com]

I mostly like Snape/Lily 'cause of my redemption-fic obsession and I think she could've been good for him, y'know.

See, that's the thing, *she's* good for *him.* What does she get out of it, poor chick? This is shallow, but at least James was cute. And smart. And an alpha type guy. If nothing else, good genes. Oh, and rich. And, if one cares (which I think most of the wizarding world does deep down), a pureblood and Old family. And magically powerful. And crazy about her. *crushes on cocky bastard James as I am shallow*

I was talking to a friend who teaches Psych and she said the best indicator of couple compatibility and lastingness: physical appearance. (ie 10s with 10s, 5s with 5s) I was all T_T, but then... as I think about it... Of course, this is way averaged out with many many people in studies, so it's not like no one can ever get with anyone cuter or uglier than themselves and um, I've forgotten what I was talking about ^^;;

...

Your Hanadan ref just gave me this bizarre image of MWPP as F4. Lily is obviously Tsukushi. Other comparisons break down, sadly.

About the DE!Draco fic... is the Hanged Man one? Because I thought you had good things with Draco there, but he remained such a miserable bastard... it was hard to see him as anything but a nasty albatross around Harry's neck. Or that Harry had some masochistic tendencies that he should get resolved so he can dump Draco and get a real companion/life partner... Like, if Draco goes evil-flavored, but is never redeemed or something along those lines...

I don't think I can think cleverly enough to be objective about it, but it just makes me depressed and irritable. And feeling bad for Harry.

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[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

Man. I'm totally obsessed with balance too, and want relationships to be equally satisfying for both parties, but like... in The Hanged Man in particular... see, that's not the whole story of Harry/Draco, that is only the the story of how Draco became a Death Eater and it wasn't really okay, but he learned his lesson. That's why I had all the Tarot references-- because the 'Hanged Man' card is all about The Fool learning a lesson about being trapped and redeemed/set free by letting go of control and their ideas about their life/destiny/etc. This ended up being a fic more about Draco's beginning to understand rather than him becoming 'good enough' for Harry, which comes later-- like, that's where I was going at the end, with the crying and him saying 'he's ready' and Harry understanding-- I wanted to say they could start over. Or at least now Draco could.

Also, I keep adding to it and giving it more plot so that Draco gets more of a reason to be out of prison and okay he's never really 'redeemed', as it's more a forgiveness arc, but... sometimes what we give people isn't like... necessarily happy & positive, but it's still what they want at the time, and then people grow and their relationship becomes happier if they work at it. Sometimes people/situations are so messed up it's almost impossible to have a 'good' (healthy) relationship. I think a 'good' relationship wouldn't be realistic for H&D in Hogwarts, but it's possible to eventually get there if they stick with it and go through some stuff-- and Draco just has different stuff than Harry, who needed to change too, I think, to become more compassionate/understanding also.

It's like, sometimes people just aren't ready for each other... but if you think it'd help, I could end with them parting ways temporarily/for now... it's just that might look a bit arbitrary... and I dunno if it would improve the story per se. The 'happier' part would come after this arc, actually, where Draco probably makes/finds a new wand, asserts his independence more, and decides what to do with his life. So yeah, it's 'charity' or kindness or something not-so-good-for-him(?) from Harry's side, but he (I think) was due to show some sort of advance for Malfoy, since he didn't exactly give him a lot of chances in school (he assumed Malfoy would be a Death Eater and didn't even try to stop him!)

So it's a question of people having different personal journeys/quests and not being at the same place in their lives... and then eventually they can meet in the middle, because they're drawn together and maybe it's just sex or maybe it's more, but whatever it is, they want to find out, or something. Like, it's a process rather than a given, y'know? And Snape could 'blossom' or become worthy over time, also-- and who knows what kind of person he'd become if given the right chance and motivation? We don't know.

You're right about people 'matching' with people in their own 'range', but this is all ideal-matching stuff that doesn't take the real-life imbalances in relationships into account. Mind you, I like balances in relationships, but you can claim that a lot of Great Romances were imbalanced, if anything because women were sociologically/societally/developmentally stilted in the long-ago, so really they wouldn't necessarily be great for conversation to a well-educated knight/prince/whatever. And you could make the case that in a relationship like Tsukasa/Tsukushi, Tsukasa wasn't 'worthy' at first, and only became worthy, but Tsukushi crushed at him from the beginning, back when he was a total prick.

I think if you have feelings for someone, in other words, you see/judge them differently~:)

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[malafede.livejournal.com]

:/ People don't have to be "good enough" for other people... aren't they already? Even if it were true, I don't really think this factors a bit in romantic/sexual dynamics anyway.

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[cellia.livejournal.com]

Oh man, see, I completely disagree. (as always! >.<) We are not born so perfect that we deserve for the whole world to heap love upon us no matter what we do. Our family may love us no matter what, but it doesn't seem fair to expect the same of everyone else we meet.

I'm not saying that people have to be perfect for their partner. Just that one needs to match the other person somehow as a companion, as a person, not just as a stimulus/tool. (ie not just as something to redeem, something to hurt oneself, something to fuck, something to make one less lonely... )

So, I do think it factors in... if we're talking about a love relationship.

Not so much if it's plain lust, obsession, idealizing fantasy, masochism, pity, a pet-fix-em-up project, delusion etc etc

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[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

I do agree that not everyone should love us, of course. And that ideally, love should be 'pure & good' somehow, in a way it rarely is in real life. In reality, people call a lot of things 'love' that aren't very romantic, but it works for them, y'know, and it's what they want.... Of course, that doesn't make it 'really love', but it does make it 'good' if that's what they want.... Depending on how you look at it. 'Real love' is an ideal, while people always fall short of those....

But matching... yeah.
Matching can 'work' without love, though. There's also issues-matching, kinks-matching, needs-matching and so on. People 'fit' in the oddest, most unlikely of ways, it seems like. Also depends if that particular person is looking for 'companionate' type love-- it's only one of the many types, y'know. That sort of love tends to be based on friendship/respect/etc... but there are other kinds. It's hard to pin down, it seems to me.

If it helps, I don't think of THM (or any particular story, necessarily) as a justification for H/D, or a love-story, even. One could write about other things & still use a couple one thinks -can- or -should- be (at some point) in love without showing that, 'cause that isn't part of the arc, y'know? I think. My concept of justification-for-H/D fic is so high minded and difficult... I've just been procrastinating, really, but I'll be the first to admit that I've never really written what I see as an H/D -love- story. I tried with `Love for the Strong', but that was laughable, really, and my fanfic for DV10 was a cheat.... The only thing that comes close, really, is my H/D get-together novella, where both of them need each other and grow closer at about the same rate, but even that doesn't end with a full blown love-relationship anyway....

It's just. Really hard. Forget love-- I wanted THM to get past 'hate and need to destroy/ignore/react against all the time' ^^;;; I wanted to give them-- or really, just Draco-- a future of some sort. That was the goal, more than love, y'know?

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[cellia.livejournal.com]

that is only the the story of how Draco became a Death Eater and it wasn't really okay, but he learned his lesson.

I think I missed where it was shown that he learned. I got a feeling more like resignation and sulking at the end, not a desire to fix mistakes.

So yeah, it's 'charity' or kindness or something not-so-good-for-him(?) from Harry's side, but he (I think) was due to show some sort of advance for Malfoy, since he didn't exactly give him a lot of chances in school (he assumed Malfoy would be a Death Eater and didn't even try to stop him!)

*cries anytime Harry is blamed for Draco's choices* One of my biggest pet peeves. Not actually looming large in the story itself, but this comment reminded me of this idea I keep seeing in H/Dish things, and it bugs me man.

Like, Harry didn't do "enough" for Draco. It all seems of a piece to me with the thinking that Draco is a prat because Harry didn't shake his hand. It seems like you're implying that in this story, despite the fact that they're sleeping together, Harry should have realized that Draco was still hating enough to join an organization with a top goal of killing him. And he should have stopped Draco somehow.

I mean, it would have been nice, but... Draco's morality and decisions... not Harry's responsibility. Forget being fair to Harry, it's not fair to Draco. It makes him a charity case and a child. Although I guess that's kind of your point--Draco's too childish at that point to make a good decision. I still feel uneasy about the idea that because Draco's too immature, Harry has to step up and take care of it...

But I'm getting all entangled. My issues with the logic/reality/ethical universe might ultimately not be important in you making a good piece of fiction. After all, I think I was reading comments awhile ago where many people loved it and didn't seem to have my issues at all. People who know about writing. So. I might just be a little lone voice in the wilderness that everyone else is looking at like ???. My issues are real to me, but, I might be the only one seeing 'em. So as a writer you might need to ignore them. (writing is tough, as you can see that I really don't comprehend its mysterious ways)


But yeah, your Tsukasa/Tsukushi progression comment made me realize something. Maybe I just get more out of seeing the whole process of prick (or non-love relationship) to tolerable companion (love-relationship). And the Draco story didn't cover the whole arc, yet his partner didn't squash him down, but seemed gonzo for him at various points. Thus I get confused.