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Aug. 10th, 2004 04:07 am
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...I just had the most disturbing vision out of the corner of my eye, of my plushie!Harry with long wild black hair o_0 Y'know, but still with his messed-up striped t-shirt & jeans & glasses & stuff.

As flash occurred, I realized I would possibly adore girl!Harry even more than boy!Harry, in a way. In an OMG CRUSH sort of way o_0 He's just. My darling as a boy, but as a girl he's. Just. Dude. Breasts o_0 Awkwardness. Still wearing boy clothes. And blushing a lot. And still being very angry. And punching Ron for staring. And. Suddenly getting weird reactions about... boys. Which may or may not have always been there. And. Liking Ginny more. And. Omg, breasts.


Feel like the biggest perv that ever lived o_0 I know Silvia wrote it, but see. This is less about the funny (though still funny) and more about the. Y'know. Sex. And gender-bending. And Harry not being gorgeous! Just lanky & skinny & with wild hair & small breasts & still the urge to kick things. Like, he's totally the same except. Y'know. Yeah.

Girl!Harry & Hermione, ack. He'd like-- go to her for advice and-- stuff-- and-- fumbling would occur, and. It would be so awkward! And. Hot! And Ron! Poor Ron, with the staring and the being rather awkward and messed with and. Ack! And. Draco would. Be so confused. And angry. And confused. And how could he act the same way? Potter is a GIRL! It's just. Too weird. So. He just. Avoids. And wanks. And stalks, like in the shower or something. o_0

Seriously have to fight urge to write girl!Harry. Ack. Someone talk me out of this...! Please.

Wah. Okay I think I've purged it. 'Cause clearly it's not going anywhere, it's just-- ack short skirts & knobby knees...! And Draco like, fainting (and we can't forget Ron-- what with the wanting to grope Harry's breasts 'cause they're mates & that's the sort of favor one would expect), and Hermione being protective (or possessive! Harry, you must take care of yourself now that you're one of us!) and Ginny deciding she's gay (well, she is in my head) and. Omg. Everyone Wants Harry = Reena Is Ever So Lame. It's just. I can't decide who to pair her with-- I just think everyone would be confused, it's not that they all want her. It's just that... hormones are everywhere. And she wanks a lot. And possibly I could see it being H/D but mostly. Girl!Harry. Still angry. Ack. And violent! And. Getting into physical fights!! Omg. See, this is why I should be asleep now. Bad Reena, no Mary-Sue!Harry for you. *slaps own wrist*
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PS. [livejournal.com profile] potter_mouth can most definitely have my babies anytime, anywhere. Forget about that girl!Harry thing, I'm totally sold on the testosterone overload, I really am. CALL ME, BABY. :-*
    I mean, it's likely enough you like boys, but you being fictional & me being creative, we can work something out, non?

Re: girl!Harry!!!

Date: 2004-08-28 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cellia.livejournal.com
Oh man, see, I completely disagree. (as always! >.<) We are not born so perfect that we deserve for the whole world to heap love upon us no matter what we do. Our family may love us no matter what, but it doesn't seem fair to expect the same of everyone else we meet.

I'm not saying that people have to be perfect for their partner. Just that one needs to match the other person somehow as a companion, as a person, not just as a stimulus/tool. (ie not just as something to redeem, something to hurt oneself, something to fuck, something to make one less lonely... )

So, I do think it factors in... if we're talking about a love relationship.

Not so much if it's plain lust, obsession, idealizing fantasy, masochism, pity, a pet-fix-em-up project, delusion etc etc

Re: girl!Harry!!!

Date: 2004-08-28 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
I do agree that not everyone should love us, of course. And that ideally, love should be 'pure & good' somehow, in a way it rarely is in real life. In reality, people call a lot of things 'love' that aren't very romantic, but it works for them, y'know, and it's what they want.... Of course, that doesn't make it 'really love', but it does make it 'good' if that's what they want.... Depending on how you look at it. 'Real love' is an ideal, while people always fall short of those....

But matching... yeah.
Matching can 'work' without love, though. There's also issues-matching, kinks-matching, needs-matching and so on. People 'fit' in the oddest, most unlikely of ways, it seems like. Also depends if that particular person is looking for 'companionate' type love-- it's only one of the many types, y'know. That sort of love tends to be based on friendship/respect/etc... but there are other kinds. It's hard to pin down, it seems to me.

If it helps, I don't think of THM (or any particular story, necessarily) as a justification for H/D, or a love-story, even. One could write about other things & still use a couple one thinks -can- or -should- be (at some point) in love without showing that, 'cause that isn't part of the arc, y'know? I think. My concept of justification-for-H/D fic is so high minded and difficult... I've just been procrastinating, really, but I'll be the first to admit that I've never really written what I see as an H/D -love- story. I tried with `Love for the Strong', but that was laughable, really, and my fanfic for DV10 was a cheat.... The only thing that comes close, really, is my H/D get-together novella, where both of them need each other and grow closer at about the same rate, but even that doesn't end with a full blown love-relationship anyway....

It's just. Really hard. Forget love-- I wanted THM to get past 'hate and need to destroy/ignore/react against all the time' ^^;;; I wanted to give them-- or really, just Draco-- a future of some sort. That was the goal, more than love, y'know?

Re: girl!Harry!!!

Date: 2004-08-28 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cellia.livejournal.com
Oh. I am dopey. I thought you were trying for a love story.

<---is stupid

Re: girl!Harry!!!

Date: 2004-08-29 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
people call a lot of things 'love' that aren't very romantic

But... that's the whole point. Real love isn't supposed to be "romantic". :/

Re: girl!Harry!!!

Date: 2004-08-29 12:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
I don't think I can -write- 'romantic' though... I like all forms of love. I'm like... er... very into romanticism in all its hokey and not-so-hokey forms. Besides, I actually find all forms of love 'romantic', unless there's no tender feeling there, and even then I'm there if there's passion involved of any kind. My definition of romance is admittedly my own. I don't like milque-toast romance, but then I don't like milque-toast anything. I do find that any actually felt passion is as 'real' as anything, even if it's not -traditional- (whatever -that- means... it could be debated, considering there are many traditions).

Come to think of it, THM!H/D is related to a certain tradition of redemptive love, maybe, even if I didn't transcribe it very well.

Re: girl!Harry!!!

Date: 2004-08-30 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
Oh, well, we probably agree. I meant love isn't an idealised more or less formulaic trope? :)

Re: girl!Harry!!!

Date: 2004-08-28 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
Well, of course I agree that you can evaluate the matching of two personalities - but it'd still not be something based on some inherent goodness some have and others don't. I mean, Harry's worth is equal to Draco's worth. People have the same dignity, as humans, and really the thought that some are considered less is incredibly depressing to me. The fact is that "loving" isn't an act based on calculations over what you could gain - what you gain is the person you fell in love with, and you don't fall in love with them for their niceness or fiber or whatever.

Re: girl!Harry!!!

Date: 2004-08-28 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cellia.livejournal.com
I think some people do fall in love because of niceness and moral fiber actually. (A story I've always liked: A woman saying that she realized she was in love when her boyfriend carefully saved a moth and set it free outside instead of killing it.) Different people need different things, but kindness and human sympathy is a pretty common need across the board.

I agree that love isn't based on a set of calculations you can do objectively, its all in the context of the 2 people and what they specifically need/want. Most people want to be with someone than can respect as a person though.

Re: girl!Harry!!!

Date: 2004-08-28 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
Shouldn't you respect everybody? :D

Re: girl!Harry!!!

Date: 2004-08-28 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cellia.livejournal.com
Haven't some people made choices and done things that make them unworthy of respect?

Re: girl!Harry!!!

Date: 2004-08-28 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
No.

(I think we are talking two different definitions of respect, though?)

Re: girl!Harry!!!

Date: 2004-08-28 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cellia.livejournal.com
Almost completely unrelated, but I was reading "The Storyteller" by Saki awhile ago and had the thought it might be right up your alley. If you haven't read it, it's here

Re: girl!Harry!!!

Date: 2004-08-28 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malafede.livejournal.com
Oh, I'll read it as soon as I can! :D

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