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reenkaI've been reading way too much Gundam Wing again. It seems like there's more in-character 1x2 fic out there than there used to be, somehow (which isn't saying much, since it's still 98% OOC). It's kind of embarrassing, but then, I've said lots of embarrassing things, what's one more?
What I keep thinking is-- I love Heero. Yeah, the psychotic suicidal repressed martyr terrorist. I think I've a thing for martyr fighter types (and the repression goes without saying-- yum). Much as I love the bad boys and the jokers and thieves and wild ones-- it's that element of self-sacrifice and the burning of an intense inner truth that truly touches me. Frodo's like that. It occurs to me that so is Heero, too, and Harry, actually. It's their need for love and their reticence to accept it, at the same time. Inability to accept it, even.
But if he trusts... if he loves... if he believes in something-- he gives it all he has. He gives everything, holds nothing back. Whatever else is different, that always remains. This boy doesn't do half-measures.
I always love the dark, serious boy. The one who keeps things hidden without having a facade, the one who feels deeply and notices things other people don't, without becoming arrogant about it. He has this instinct to help people because of a natural understanding that not everyone could, but he could, so he should. He's the one who has so much love to give, so much need for it and so much potential, but he holds back, afraid he'll always be alone and there's no way out. Afraid that he's -meant- to be alone.
He's intensely socially awkward and angry at the world. He feels responsible for so many things, most of which aren't his fault. He's so strong and so emotionally resilient and yet so needy and vulnerable at the same time. He's not a person of many words, but he's often cutting and witty when he wants to be. He always winds up doing the things no one else can do or wants to do, that nonetheless have to be done; things that will haunt him and torture him. He's very good at torturing himself and cutting himself off from the people that love him.
People always love the jokers best, the tricksters and the pranksters, the bad boys who hide their pain behind brash charm. I love them too, but.... The dark martyr (anti)hero will always come first. It just really upsets me that they're seen as boring or predictable or less complex or sexy somehow. That boy... is always the one who's most intense. He's a flame and he's on fire. He burns. His eyes are always brilliant and fierce and dangerous. Most people don't understand that he's not an angel or a hero or a saint. He's a fool. He's a boy who's looking for his heart. I love him, I love him, I love him.
In a way, I've been a bit disturbed when I suddenly realized I love Heero this much, but then, when I realized who he reminds me of (Harry), it all made sense at last. Of course. That martyr complex strikes again~:) Oh yes, so that makes it completely perfect for Heero The Martyr to be in love with the God of Death, heheheh. (*is incorrigible*)
What I keep thinking is-- I love Heero. Yeah, the psychotic suicidal repressed martyr terrorist. I think I've a thing for martyr fighter types (and the repression goes without saying-- yum). Much as I love the bad boys and the jokers and thieves and wild ones-- it's that element of self-sacrifice and the burning of an intense inner truth that truly touches me. Frodo's like that. It occurs to me that so is Heero, too, and Harry, actually. It's their need for love and their reticence to accept it, at the same time. Inability to accept it, even.
But if he trusts... if he loves... if he believes in something-- he gives it all he has. He gives everything, holds nothing back. Whatever else is different, that always remains. This boy doesn't do half-measures.
I always love the dark, serious boy. The one who keeps things hidden without having a facade, the one who feels deeply and notices things other people don't, without becoming arrogant about it. He has this instinct to help people because of a natural understanding that not everyone could, but he could, so he should. He's the one who has so much love to give, so much need for it and so much potential, but he holds back, afraid he'll always be alone and there's no way out. Afraid that he's -meant- to be alone.
He's intensely socially awkward and angry at the world. He feels responsible for so many things, most of which aren't his fault. He's so strong and so emotionally resilient and yet so needy and vulnerable at the same time. He's not a person of many words, but he's often cutting and witty when he wants to be. He always winds up doing the things no one else can do or wants to do, that nonetheless have to be done; things that will haunt him and torture him. He's very good at torturing himself and cutting himself off from the people that love him.
People always love the jokers best, the tricksters and the pranksters, the bad boys who hide their pain behind brash charm. I love them too, but.... The dark martyr (anti)hero will always come first. It just really upsets me that they're seen as boring or predictable or less complex or sexy somehow. That boy... is always the one who's most intense. He's a flame and he's on fire. He burns. His eyes are always brilliant and fierce and dangerous. Most people don't understand that he's not an angel or a hero or a saint. He's a fool. He's a boy who's looking for his heart. I love him, I love him, I love him.
In a way, I've been a bit disturbed when I suddenly realized I love Heero this much, but then, when I realized who he reminds me of (Harry), it all made sense at last. Of course. That martyr complex strikes again~:) Oh yes, so that makes it completely perfect for Heero The Martyr to be in love with the God of Death, heheheh. (*is incorrigible*)
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Date: 2004-04-14 12:59 am (UTC)Heero is not a martyr, man, he is a badly socialized, boarderline-sociopathic teenage boy. He's a zealot.
(I am talking canon here, although I have read so many GW fic in my time that it has probably seeped into my brain and tainted all...)
The one you are really describing here is Trowa... but no one writes good fic for him as his hair is lame. Alas. (Though he doesn't *burn* quite as much... but I'd still say Trowa is more like Harry... Wufei is probably the most *burning*... and, um, anyway...)
But I love the 1X2 fics best of all as well... any recs? ^^;;
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Date: 2004-04-14 01:32 am (UTC)No, seriously, I don't have high aspirations for the canon-worthiness of any analysis I can make of it all, since I've read sooo much fic and so much of it was sooooooo very OOC. But! It's better these days. But anyway, this was largely based on the fics I have on the brain moreso than anything else, and I just plain don't -read- stuff that focuses on Trowa or Wu Fei... sadly... very sadly. Ahahah. Um.
I just think... see, Heero believes, right. He's the one who's the most guilt-ridden, who's got that whole complex about the little girl with the dog, and how he does things against his deeper emotional impulses 'cause he feels he -has- to ("don't have to [kill] anymore" from EW). So he sacrifices his sense of what he wants (not to kill) in order to achieve peace. That's what I meant. Trowa seems a lot less torn up about it all. It's that delicacy of the soul (heheh sounds so lame) combined with repression combined with passion and some purity of purpose. Yesh. Heero is the one who fights for peace, besides Quatre, y'know. Heh. And he's more messed up so it's all dramatic and so on.
Trowa's strangely easy to draw. I've discovered this yesterday. I was like, -whoa-! Who knew! And, you know, it would never have occurred to me, in the natural way of things, to try. I was just like "well, why now". Wu Fei is all burning pure idealism & justice zeal, yes (they're all zealots except for Trowa & maybe Quatre but really, Quatre is too, he's just less psychotic about it-- and with Duo you just can't tell, ahahahahah). But, see, Wu Fei isn't a martyr 'cause he doesn't do anything that he doesn't think is -right- and -just- of his of free will. So he's a fighter. Basically, I see Heero as the conflicted one.
Right. Um. Yes, where was I? I was going to send you my GW sketches, eheheheheh :D I've been doodling as I read :D
But anyway, recs, huh :D :D :D
COME TO THE DARK SIDE!!1!11 >:D Here goes (in comment #2, since I was compelled to comment, ahahah).
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Date: 2004-04-14 01:33 am (UTC)-> FancyFigure's fics (http://raygunworks.net/fancy.html) - everything she writes is funny and British (so cute) and sooo well-written and very real & vivid & well-characterized. Oh yes.
-> Kracken's fics (http://kracken.bonpublishing.com/fiction/gw/) - everything she writes is very soldier-boy and adventure-fic and wonderful soldier!Heero characterization and yum, lemony and suspenseful and psychologically realistic. Break Point & Soldier Boys & Crossing Paths & the Shinigami's Lover arcs, yesh.
-> Maldoror's fics (http://www.raygunworks.net/maldoror.html) - the `Whisper' arcs are just wonderful soldier!Heero characterization. She just nails the characterizations of both of them (Heero & Duo) while keeping the other pilots very -there- and real. Her comedy (`Trial and Error') made me HOWL and really touched me. Her fantasy AU, `Two Halves' & sequel) was another wonderful reconstructional fantasy AU where the original conditions get largely recreated really creatively and the characterizations really -rock-. And Heero & Duo grow up together and are... just.... yes. And no lemon! That means I really liked it :> More nice and plotty than anything in H/D, but that's most of these authors for ya.
-> Granate's fanfic (http://granate.happyfangirl.org/my_fics.html) - has reeeeally terrific, creative historical-fantasy AUs where she basically creates a whole world along with a really canon-feeling Heero and Duo. There's one ancient Rome one, one present-day archeology one & one present-day High School/post-college scientists. Anyway, she's just really scientifically rigorous and writes really well.
-> Mitsu's fics (http://mitsugallery.g3z.com/index.htm) - Mostly reccing 'cause of Bridlewood Manor, which is a historical 1x2 AU which recreates almost all the original circumstances/dynamics while remaining wildly different. It's 1901 & Heero's a spy & Duo's a thief and they work as a butler & a chef for Lady Relena but it sounds much less interesting and addictive than it is. Very well conceived and -really- detailed, and her normal GW fic, `Set in Stone', is a really well-characterized 1x2 adventure-fic too.
-> Seraph's `Another Version of Events (http://gundamwing.fanworkrecs.com/archives/Seraph/)' - really well-characterized soldier!Heero (do you sense a pattern??) and their relationship is meticulously built up and realistic (the thing is hella long, too). Don't care for the plot, but the characterization is stellar. And........ thaaaass all :D
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Date: 2004-04-14 02:21 am (UTC)But I can't really argue very well though since I was into this years ago (cut my teeth on early Talya Fyredancer and whatnot) and OMG I have forgotten so much!! I used to know Trowa's whole backstory!!! There was a time when I had actually read every GW story on the web!! *weeps* (now that would probably be physically impossible) So I can't back this up with, like, *evidence* now... but I could have, y'know, years ago...
Anyway. Trowa has so much more a delicate soul than Heero. Totally. And he is way more repressed. He just isn't usually a needlessly violent bastard like Heero so often is. Um, is my bias showing? But Heero... or the fanonHeero does make for *much* funner BL fic. Quatre is rather uninspiring, I'll admit, and it's hard to stick Trowa with anyone else (although Heero's probably the next best bet...)
GW sketches! Yes!! They must be shared!!
And I think I have about a billion old crap sketches of Duo lying around somewhere.
And I will post my years-old GW 1x2 fic!!
And I will check out your recs! I haven't heard of any of these people. Man, who'd have thought GW would still be kicking?
(Though I have to say... I recently saw Char's Counterattack and can feel for the old-schoolers who say the GW universe is as shallow eye candy compared to the space opera of the UC universe...)
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Date: 2004-04-14 02:37 am (UTC)I like Trowa. Especially Mitsu's & Maldoror's Trowa... but... eh, I never really got a good enough sense of him from fic and my canon knowledge is waaaay old. What I do know is that he's -too- delicate. I didn't mean to emphasize the delicacy-- what's important is that combination of delicacy and fire/passion/violence (I think they're connected in my head). So yes, Heero's a violent bastard, but that just means he's more explosive, more... conflicted in a dramatic way. He's pure but he -struggles- with himself more than Trowa does, who's more accepting of his state of being, it seems to me. More... dead inside? Though compared to Heero, rocks seem alive, but anyway. Heh.
I have very particular definitions of things and I didn't mean to claim that I was describing canon!Heero, but I don't think I was describing fanon!Heero either 'cause... well, for one, there -is- no one GW fanon since they bastardize even themselves. Heh. It's like, there -is- no purity to their characterizations. Every good characterization of him seems to reinvent Heero a little.
I was never crazy about GW canon. It's funny 'cause GW is just one of those fandoms where you don't need to know/remember a whole lot to read fic in it-- this is, of course, why I read so much fic to start with.
That is to say, I -hate- mecha shows of -any- kind or supposed depth. It's really funny I liked RahXephon the way I did. Then again, that was all artsy, y'know. I like my space opera more with the psy-powers and space exploration and aliens and weird concepts than mecha and robots and techno-babble stuff. eh. Then again, I'm only vaguely into hard sci-fi :>