Fic - Ginny/Pansy - girlporn, etc.

[reenka]

Mostly, this is to say that I've written a Ginny/Pansy fic. Yeah, I'm a bit surprised myself. Though if I was going to do any femmeslash HP pairing, it'd be that. 'Can't very well slash Hermione (my Hermione is probably more prudish than I've seen her written by -anyone-... she's just... er... not one of those hot sort of nerds, in my head). Then again, it occurs to me that I don't want -most- HP characters to get naked where I can see. It's not that there's something wrong with -them-... it's me. All me. And I don't wanna see them naked, man. Like... Luna...? Noooo. Millicent?? God no! Cho? Too whiny. Tonks? I call her "Mary Sue". Fleur? Oh, ok. Yes, I'm very very shallow.

Possibly... the only wanna-see-her-nekkid girl would be Lily, actually. I'd slash her, man. But with -who-? Also, hate the whole not-meant-to-be-with-anyone-'cause-she's-married-and-dead thing. Also, I'm so not down with the Lily/Narcissa. Although. Hmmmmm... pretty.... *coughs* But anyway. Where was I? Oh yes. Femmeslash. The H/D of femmeslash, even. Has H/D -in- it, actually... but not really enough to advertise.

So yeah-- femmeslash. Lacking several keywords that you'll (almost) never see me use 'cause they're so bloody awful: clit, vagina, vulva, pussy, nub, vaginal fluid, juices (!!), muff (just in case), clitoris, hole, channel, love-channel, center, womb, passage, sweet funky heaven.... Yeah, I just wanted to say all that. I have no shame. And my favorite word for "it"? Is now quim ('cunt' is now dethroned) :D :D Quim! Isn't it utterly beautiful? Loveit! Er. *coughs* Why yes, this journal is rated NC-17. *nods*

( `The Golden Rules' - Ginny/Pansy - NC-17 - Wherein deals are made, rules are broken, and revenge is served with a smile. )
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See... reading all this (B/S) het, all I see is girls. Girls, girls, girls everywhere. It's all about the girls' needs and their pleasure and their satisfaction. The boy is generally there to service them, to give them orgasms-- because well, Anya was on to something, right? Orgasms are of the Good.

I kind of miss the cock-worship one sees in slashfic.


All that talk of erections and focus on ejaculation and the much, -much- greater number of blow-jobs than in het. It's weird 'cause women are writing -that-, too, so why aren't their girl characters into that? Why are girls always being serviced and worshipped while the boys either get with the program or are exhibiting control or force of some sort?

It's sort of disappointing to me to always have the guy willing and able to wait, to give the girl at least one orgasm before he gets any. It's not that selfish lovers are desirable or even always realistic-- it's just that sense of pure fantasy one gets with the guy always going on about how wet and tight and hot the girl is, with endless descriptions of the girls' bits, and very very little of the boys'. It's almost like it's femmeslash in disguise or something. Of course, people have said that about boy/boy fics, too.

Maybe women's erotica will inevitably be about -women-, no matter if you call it slash, femmeslash or het. One hopes not. Even though there's the fact that whatever my needs or desires, even if they're for more boy & less girl, they're the needs and desires of a -woman-, so there's really no escaping it.

But hey, may as well write femmeslash, I thought. At least it's honest~:)

Comments

[spare-change.livejournal.com]

oh

my

god

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You know, this isn't femmeslash. It's just a really good story, Reena. It's absolutely fantastic, in fact, and I am so moved (and envious) by all the emotional shifts in the narrative, and how believably you accomplish them.

*sigh*

This is the best thing I've read in ages. I love all of the characterizations, and I *love* how you write Pansy's attraction to Ginny.

(Except: peaches? lemonspice? Um. Everything else in the fic is so messy and real and imperfect, and that tugs me out of the fic, because ... no. So I would change that one bit.)

And I love your Draco, too.

Oh, I just love everything about this. :D

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

eeeeeee! thanks! *beams*
I was worried about the scarredness of it-- y'know, the way I couldn't decide on a tone-- but figured that's okay, life is like that. For some reason Pansy/Ginny makes sense to me so I think that came through-- if anything, in the impressive (for me) length :D

(Also. See... that's what I was afraid of, why I'd prefer not writing girls. They have all these... fluids, y'know?? I can't write about fluids!! But! I mean! How can you escape?! What -would- it taste like, I mean, in normal terms??! Aaaack! The angst! And! I wound up doing exactly what I was trying to avoid!! And I was doing so well! And yet! I mean.... well. See. You can't very well say, "and it tastes so oily and sour, sort of clogged up her throat" and okay, why describe it at all, but. *angsts* Though I wanted that to be contrast, y'know. Like, "wow, I really like this and I'm even going against my nature and thinking of it romantically" sort of. Though you're right, of course. There should be some sort of rule against comparing -anything- to peaches, ahahahah. Um. But I'm still no closer to knowing what else to say -.- woe.)

<3! Thsnks so so much for reading it, man. It means a lot to me-- the fic, and you reading it. I feel like I've put more -me- into it than usual, so I was reluctant to have it beta'd (and I didn't), and also curious if it upped the quality in any way, so~:) I'm glad some of my emotional connection came through :D :D!

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

and by scarredness i meant scatteredness.
because scarredness? so not a word :D

[glitterdemon.livejournal.com]

Oh, Reena. I am just bowled over; this is gorgeous work. I have such, such a hard time finding femslash I feel any real emotional connection to, and this just had it in spades. Oh, and it's hot. Which I mentioned in my rec (http://glitterdemon.livejournal.com/347159.html) a few times. ::g:: Just fun and sweet and beautiful. Thank you a thousand times for sharing it.

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

wah! thanks muchly! :D
I'm always so nervous about things I haven't done before, 'cause... no guarrantees, no safety net, no 5+ reviews... *laughs*
It makes every bit of response all the more precious, and this is exactly what I wanted, 'cause it's what I put into it-- they were -real- to me when I wrote them, so I'm extremely happy they were real to you too >:D!

[ztrin.livejournal.com]

*uses approving userpic*

That was excellent. It's a proper story, all right, but one of those with the right balance of humour and beauty and sex and frankness. <33333 I don't really like femmeslash as a rule, because it feels too flowery sometimes, but yours is really, really good. And hot. Because, yes. And this is an interpretation of Ginny I can get behind, man, because she's believable in the way real people are.

<333333333333333! Did I mention I'm just like blathering?

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

! hee! I got the sexed-up Asian guy!! :D
He really is kinda sexy in a really-wrong sort of way. Or not. *coughs*

Thanks >:D I was all... "I should write some H/D RIGHT NOW just to make sure I'm still wanted" heheheh. Oh man.
But I miss my psychotic!Ginny who killed Harry while polyjuiced as Draco, and then I made her kill Harry in another fic. God, she was down with the murdering. She was like mad-killer!Willow except without the cool mystical powers. Ahem.

Also. Do you have an opinion on the to-use-the-peaches-reference or not-to-use-the-peaches-reference in regards to um... "the taste test"?? Ahahah I can't decided. I really was thinking, "so what does 'it' taste like" and like... okay, so I don't know. What -does- it taste like, fruit-wise?? Concerned citizens need to know~:))

<33333
God I'm happy you read it even though. You know. Femmeslash. Duuuude. I'd -never- read it, myself. :D

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[ztrin.livejournal.com]

No, it doesn't. Not at all, actually. It tastes a lot like saltwater but different, muskier. Not at all like any fruit.

AHEM.

I still think Fuzzy Peach is an EXCELLENT name for a band, though. <3

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

you know... now that i -think- about it..... ahahah omg you're right. why was i even -thinking- of fruit?? (and the salt-water thing has endless potential for things like "the salty ocean of her womb's tender fluids").
i mean, i was kind of being tongue-in-cheek but then... yeah. i mean, to give myself -some- credit. i wasn't actually like, "hmmm, i bet it -does- taste like peaches" ahaha though i was like... hmmm sour..... okay nevermind.


BACK TO MAN-PORN!! ^^;

[mister-tokai.livejournal.com]

(I got here through glitterdemon's rec.)

First off, I'm not in the fandom. But the characters were awesome, and seemed to be in character (as far as I can tell from what little I know), and I loved their interactions and Pansy's battle between "I really like this and her" and "I don't need anyone; romance can't touch me". It seemed right and I can only hope I can learn to show the beginnings of attraction and maybe-love as well as you did. (My favourite bit was the "But now it's your turn" and Pansy's laughing about Ginny's house's preoccupation with fair play. You wove the house personality traits fairly well into the situation, it seems to me. From an outsider's POV, anyway.) I agree about the peaches thing, but it is hard to find a good comparison. Maybe it'll come to you one day.

I wish I were a better gusher/reviewer, 'cause that deserved a lot better.

[Hm. I've always nodded and agreed when people say they hate how people feminise men in slash fic, but after actually *thinking* about it, I don't really understand what that means. Are girls actually clingy and whiny? Because your characters don't act that way, and they seem more real or more true than many female (although the problem is more often with het) characters I've read.]

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

Wow, I'm really pleased that it worked without knowing the background or whatever, though there's not that much background for Ginny or Pansy. Pansy basically has next to none, and Ginny's is contradictory & only really there in OoTP. I've always shied away from the more obscure characters in fanfic 'cause it messes with my mind to be doing both original-fic stuff and fanfic-stuff, but these two are pretty real to me for some reason. So it just kind of told itself, which doesn't generally happen, but wheee~:) Glad it came through.

I am now haunted by the peaches dilemma, btw. And yet I can't just scrap it entirely. Maybe I just need more girlporn practice :D :D

(I was generally saying that people-- er, girl-writers-- feminize men in -all- fic, actually, but specifically het. 'Cause of the whole thing where the guy is uber-sensitive & dotes on the girl's pleasure & gives her oral sex a lot. I'm so tired of the endless oral sex, for some reason. I'm like GODDAMNIT WHY CAN'T SPIKE JUST TAKE WHAT HE WANTS FOR ONCE, WOULD IT -KILL- THEM?!?. Heh. Okay that sounds like I have Issues, and I probably do -.-

But thanks :D I've been writing girls a lot longer than I've been writing boys, so it's nice to go back to what comes naturally, I guess. I dunno if it's -feminization-, 'cause I dunno if girls -are- all selfless & obsessed with foreplay, but. It's like, not even -human-, which is what bothers me. They're making Spike/the guy into a sex robot with the perfect sexual responses. Like... ahahah, Spikebot. Omg, fandom's using The Guy as some sort of... dildo/masturbatory-aide type thing, omg. Okay, I amuse myself.

Anyway, that was great feedback, especially for a fic which got so little. *clutches gleefully*

[mister-tokai.livejournal.com]

I repeat for good measure: story rocks. ;)

I am now haunted by the peaches dilemma, btw. And yet I can't just scrap it entirely. Maybe I just need more girlporn practice :D :D
I'm sure you could find some volunteers easily. Unless you mean practise writing it? Sounds like a plan. Practise makes perfect! Don't forget to post it. And now I'm wondering what you'll come up with. What other people would come up with. The quest to find the holy [but wholly true and untacky] taste-descriptor.

[I don't think I actually disagree with you there. I just disagree with the use of "feminise", really--and I used it up until yesterday when I had some kind of feminist breakthrough due to a massive overdose of science fiction in which women are described as "lithe" or "supple" or both, and not as real people at all. I so agree with the sentiment that writers... uh, demaninate and sappify... male characters in so much fic, it's scary. Even in my main fandoms, which are more likely to have open wounds and chains than flowers and love songs. I just think that it's equally wrong when they do the same to the female characters. And it doesn't sound like you have issues at all. I feel your pain. I even start muttering at the screen sometimes when I read f/f or het fic: "Dude, girls aren't always gentle just because we don't have dicks! We don't need to be tiptoed around. We poke and bite and bruise, too! Grr!" However. Spikebot and Gigolo Joe? I'll take them if I have to. :D

And, uh, my point before I got on my rambling soapbox was that I think we really agree, forgetting terms.]

[rubydebrazier.livejournal.com]

Thank you so much for posting this to sorry_potter! Probably my favorite aspect of it is the casual Pansy POV, where she takes everything simultaneously so seriously and so scornfully.

A joy to read, as always.

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

Well, I'm glad to please, though, I mean... it's the only f/f list I'm aware of~:) Are there more? :>

Thanks! :D I love my Pansy. She's -alive- for me, so... I'm all chuffed she came through well. In fact, I'm prolly happier with my take on Pansy, in my various fics, than I am with any other character, just 'cause everyone else is so bloody -hard- :> But yes. *glee* :D

[rubydebrazier.livejournal.com]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IntoRaspberrySwirl/

is an awesome list. Although this reply is very late, and you probably know that by now.

Still, if you don't you should go and read some posts as there is much wonderful femslash on this list.

[shatterglass.livejournal.com]

Wow. It was ....reallllly good. As in, complete with subtle shifts of feeling and oh oh really good.
*melts*
<3333!

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

eeee, thanks :D :D!
am now rather encouraged to write more pansy/ginny, y'know~:) h/d just keeps biting me in the ass, man. *giggles* one day... one day i will stop and never write boy/boy grindage again. yep. it'll happen~:)

[legoushka.livejournal.com]

Woo! Oh yeah. I love to cruise by your journal every once in a while, because I'm always pleasantly suprised, and although I'm sure this is too far down to be noticed, I feel like commenting all the same.

It has been said (and no doubt folks are still saying it) that there is no good HP femmeslash. Hah! They're wrong, for they just don't know where to look. The second I saw it was 1. G/P, and 2. written by you, I knew it had to be worth a read. I love how you didn't make it overly melodramatic (as in, Pansy wasn't jilted by The Resident Slytherin Sex God with the foot-long dick for the Gryffindor Sex-God of Equal Endowment), and that although Pansy was completely set on complete and utter revenge (which we all know would have been painful yet sadistically fun to watch), she got pleasantly sidetracked. While sticking to The Plan, of course.

And Ginny! I think Pansy never could never quite figure out who was playing with whom. Innocent and perky-breasted though she may be, that girl has some aces up her sleeve, yes sirree. I feel the urge to draw some fanart, as it's awfully hard to resist lithe, well-built quidditch red-heads. However, I may have jinxed myself by saying that....eh, it shall get drawn, someday, perhaps.

*puts into memories*

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

Oh man, am v. pleasantly flattered >:D!
Though... I can't even begin to imagine myself writing either Harry or Draco as sex-gods without it being an utter comedy. I mean... I just can't even imagine taking that seriously, and don't really know what goes on in the minds of the people who do. I prefer not to think about it so that I don't get too upset with people's levels of intelligence ^^;

Hee. Am v. pleaed that you'd even consider drawing fan-art. My icon for the post was how I imagined TGL!Ginny, heheh, though it's always good to have more nekkid redheads, y'know. And now I can't get the image of 12-inch!Harry out of my mind. Ouch, man. ouch.