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[livejournal.com profile] sistermagpie said she's sad because someone said they're sick of h/d because no one writes in-character fic for it. and you know, i'm really wondering why -i'm- still here, in general (right now i'm er... not, that much, but then i'm just distracted). metaphorically speaking. is it the fic, that is so brilliant? is it the tantalizing genius of the analysis? is it even my friends in the fandom?

ha. to me it doesn't matter how harry & draco's get butchered as long as -i- see them in a certain way, as long as -i- exist; i would be a fandom of one. i would have jumped ship AGES ago if i was just saying "well how in-character does the fic get", because it doesn't. yes, we all know that in-character h/d fic doesn't really exist if you're picky about it. doesn't take very long to figure that out, man. there's some -great writing- in this pairing, some of the -best- writing, some of the most passionate writing. plus i adore them and the possibility of what they could be.

i think most people aren't -in- "the ship" as far as "the h/d fandom" very much unless they're newbies or really obsessively passionate (ie, they're the writers, not the readers, usually). either that, or people stay for certain particular wip's that keep their faith alive or something. but really, the majority of h/d fans seem to be... not very discriminating. a lot of the discriminating writers had their major productive periods more than a year ago, before ootp and maybe during and right after gof. right now-- it's mostly the newbies. it's not about being in-character and brilliantly rendered and really believable. i mean, if you want canon-believable, for most people that doesn't equal enemy-slash. well, usually.

i guess that while i find getting bored of monotony a reasonable explanation for not reading a certain pairing anymore, the whole "none of it is good" doesn't really seem to work. the majority of everything is pretty much crap anyway. i mean, how can you even justify having high expectations? in fact, the writing in -every- pairing, the fact that brilliant writing -exists- in the first place, already more than justifies and fulfills my expectations. sure, it would be -great- if fic existed that satisfied the canonists and the redemptionists and the smut-fiends and the believable-build-up people all at once-- but the more specific your desires, the more the answer becomes: write it yourself.

people write what they want to write, and partly what they want to read. if no stringently in-character h/d fic exists, this means the demand is low, since even amidst all the piles of crap, the talent is nevertheless high. i guess it's just vaguely surprising that one would seriously -expect- certain things from the fics. i mean, i get upset at bad characterization all the time, but i only get upset because i see so much potential, because i still -want- and need to basically see what amounts to my own vision. and if your own vision is what you need, and you don't share or agree with the majority, then you probably have always known that (well, i have).

might as well be yet another bad writer than a continuously disenfranchised and dissatisfied good reader, i would say.~:)
~~

also. cc's `a lot to be upset about' is the best thing since sliced bread. it is also draco/ginny. muwahahaha. with a side of comedic!draco/snape, which i -really- didn't think could be done. heeee. loveloveloveloveit. want to slash it, except not. i ship non-slashed h+d, eheheh :D

Date: 2003-09-04 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
eheheh, i -knew- there was a reason you commented other than my brilliant (...not) little mini-rant. it bothers me when someone's like, OMG, H/D ISN'T CANONICALLY RIGOROUS??! THE SHOCK!! I MUST QUIT NOW!!

also, i of course didn't initially read the d/g, but it's just too hilarious and woobie, and it's not like there's graphic smut (though that might be interesting... okay, no) in it. it's just got hilarious angry!harry and self-obsessed-dork!draco and shy-slut!ginny. it's just great :D :D you should read it! you will laugh! or i'll give you your money back!! ahahaha. *coughs*

oh yeah, so.
yah.
i actually have rosh-hashanah break at the end of the month, but that's not when lasair's coming. le sigh. i wasn't even thinking of her initially, it was all ivy & aja and um, i should prolly -ask- ivy 'cause she hasn't mentioned it since, so...

oh yah, so. las said she can't do weekends except this one sunday (she's there 9-16th)... i can do a sunday or friday-saturday-sunday, but er... weekdays are difficult though i can make it on a thursday especially if i skip class ^^;

so yeah. um. that's where it stands right nooowww... um. i'm not good at like... being decisive, but yeah :D

plus i don't think the original person's beef was with badfic it was with all-fic. and you know, i do think there -might- be in-character ron/hermione out there and we'd NEVER KNOW.
think about that.
somewhere, out there... someone's writing entirely believable, in-character ron/hermione.
it...
gives ya shivers, doesn't it :D :D

<3!

Date: 2003-09-04 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] addictedkitten.livejournal.com
Actually, I read that fic and hated it. It was far too much of a parody for my liking, and the characterization irritated me, and I don't like it when fics need an adjective! to precede the name. I don't want to read blushing!Harry or angry!Harry or lollipop-sucking!Harry, I want to read Harry, dammit. (Okay, I'm kind of lying in that I wouldn't mind reading lollipop-sucking!Harry, but that's a weird fetish for another day.) Unless we're talking bottom!Draco in which case it's not a bad characterization choice, it's a fact. Thank you. *steps off soapbox*

In-character is such a fine line to walk, though, because who's to say what is and isn't? I mean, yeah, I could safely say that fuzzy bunny Muggle-loving Draco is bad characterization, but the lines get fuzzier when it's like, foot fetish Draco or something. Because like, who knows? It could work. I mean, I wouldn't read it, but. Apparently the fandom hasn't gotten the memo that everything must be written for me, so I suppose I'll have to keep holding out until I am queen. *bides time* My point being that people should recognize that they'll never be perfectly in character, but that doesn't mean they should stop trying. Also, that everyone should write more H/D porn.

Re: gathering, well. I don't know, then. I think I'm going to leave it up to you to be proactive girl and when you've got shit figured out you let me know and I'll come up offering snark, gossip, and my lauded presence. *bows out*

Date: 2003-09-04 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
hmm. i can see where you're coming from, but. i was not thinking of characterization issues for once and pointing and laughing at particular lines or bits of dialogue or imagery or general silliness. hee. *fishes around for change... wah, left it in my other pocket -.-*

actually i was thinking more... "well because this-and-that happened to harry/dumbledore/ron/whoever, they would not engage in this-or-that behavior unless you could show progression" sort of thing. i mean, little quirks and completely out-of-the-blue attributes are okay as long as they don't contradict what we know. but if harry came back and was like, slytherin? let's accept them in the da. and by the way, i haven't chatted with malfoy enough lately. also, ron doesn't understand me, i think i won't be friends with him anymore. hermione's just annoying. harry is deeply empathetic to draco's plight now that he's sad and depressed about his father.... he trusts dumbledore just like that again... lucius is really a very beautiful and loving man...

blahblah i've seen it all~:)
i mean... really really bad mistakes get made all the time. it's frightening~:) maybe i just notice them more -.- 'course, it's all hopeless, 'cause it'll be a one-woman fandom before any of us totally agree as to what the canon's actually -saying- anyway, so~:)
i would be very happy though if people just stuck to:

draco's not: nice, blindingly intelligent/talented, considerate, liable to cry, open about his emotions, likely to forgive potter any time soon, easily made to -admit- to being a bottom to potter anyway, a sparkling conversationalist (though i'm attached to that one), abused and thus made bad, a potions -genius- (hermione -beats- him), smooth, gorgeous, insanely popular with all girls and boys everywhere, remote and icy, logical, not really vindictive or petty but rather reasonable, really, blahblah-every-fanfic-that-isn't-one-of-the-best blah ><;;

harry's not: kindly, reasonable, painfully open-minded, perfect, gorgeous, suicidal (probably), completely gay, a loner, someone who easily places responsibility and duty before all else, someone who is wholly comfortable with authority, someone who will ever like lucius malfoy is a zillion trillion gadzillion years, a heartless bastard, smooth, logical, even-tempered, painfully innocent and baby-like... gah, must stop ><;;

(that icon is porny!harry, btw. ahaha)

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