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reenkaso i was thinking about tom felton & dan radcliffe and their startling admissions in the interview, of intense drama and just-- intensity-- filming that duelling scene, and how if tom was a girl the media would be all over it saying they're having "chemistry" and whatnot. and in fact if draco was a girl in the books it'd be much more "obvious" that there might be "something" to a lot more people.
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thezeppo. while love, their love, may be "beyond gender", their personalities-- who they are-- are definitely not beyond gender. trying to fit draco's behavior and speech patterns onto a girl precisely shows just how much male pigness (for lack of a better word) he's incorporated into his words and actions. a female might be nastier or she might be more subtle, but she wouldn't be-- just like that. it'd just be ridiculous. like a poodle in a tutu.
harry, also, wouldn't fare very well as a girl. and this might have something to do with my discomfort with the interchange of harry & hermione as love interests for draco, and the concept of a "het version" of something. gender isn't so simple. you can't just have a "female version" of either draco or harry without changing a lot of things around.
in fact, if a female acted the same way as draco does in the books, i'd be even more sick of it than i am. i have a much lower tolerance for such stupidity in females-- bitchiness is one thing, but this is pure idiocy and malice. the actions don't make as much sense-- not the insane arrogance and pride, not the male-pure-blood mentality, not the jeering competition with potter in sports, not the making fun of mudbloods in quite the same way, even. it's all testosterone-wannabeism gone astray at least somewhat.
i think any fanon feminizations of draco, anything emphasizing his delicate bone-structure and slight build and his emotional manipulativeness, really miss the point, also. it's very much an alpha-male-wannabe snapping at a competitor for major power. draco wants followers, wants people to listen to him, to obey him, to fear him, etc. he wants to be like his father, but he also wants to be someone in his own right, probably. with a girl, all the dynamics of this would drastically shift, it's just inevitable. the power play would be almost non-existent, between draco and another girl, or even harry and another girl. it's a whole different ballgame. not with what selection of girls is available, anyway. yes, hermione is bossy, but she isn't someone that -strives- for power, she just assumes it, and it would be hard to pursuade her to let go, since she thinks it's only reasonable that what she wants to happen, does. it makes perfect sense. it's not a question of power, i don't think, as much as complete certainty.
so i couldn't really come up with a plausible female!draco model that was still basically canon and yet somehow also female. it just doesn't work for me. i don't see a female harry either, but possibly easier-- perhaps that's why harry is supposedly considered interchangeable with hermione. but really, the male/male dynamic is essential to preserve that certain testosterone spark, that edge. females can have edge, just not draco's sort, exactly. bitchy girls pick on girls-- it's very hard to conceive of a girl picking on a popular, self-possessed guy like that. he'd probably just laugh at her.
but anyway. co-wrote a brief parody drabble-type snippet thing withunstasis, where everyone's gender is switched-- meaning harry & draco & ron female, hermione male, etc.
The catfight (that is, duel), between Dracette and Harrietta:
"Scared, Potter?" would come the high-pitched drawl.
"You wish!" in a girly whiny voice.
"Why are you girls always fighting?? You're so shallow. Why can't you just study and develop your minds? Women!" Hermes would say, sniffing.
"But I want a better dress than Potter, she just doesn't deserve the latest fashions! My -father- will hear of this!"
Ronnette (the tarty Ronnette) stews, jealous of Dracette's wardrobe, wanting to go out with "Pan", Dracette's boyfriend, wishing Harrietta would stop messing about with Dracette and spend some time with her, picking out dresses for the Ball...
~~
Snape, and her cold black eyes, like an evil witch, she would hex Harrietta with a look, trying to make a fool of her, make her life miserable, jealous of her young beauty. Harrietta would stick out her chin and swing her smooth shining black hair, trying to remain above it all.
Snape, who seems to harbor a long-held grudge against Harrietta's mother, Lily, who got the hot guy instead of her. .......
~~
jacynrebekah had quite an interesting entry on smallville's clark (and lex) and his Hero's Journey, one stage at a time. this of course, makes me want to write about harry and his hero's journey, except it's much less subtle in the books, extremely obvious, etc. i mean-- he starts out in the ordinary world (very blatantly-- muggles, etc). he hears the Call-- god, the letters, if anything-- again, very blatant. although he doesn't refuse it at first, he just think he's getting away, he doesn't really want to be The Boy Who Lived, he just wants to enjoy being who he is and away from where he was. dumbledore is obviously his mentor, until he adds on others (hagrid, sirius, and so on). it would be much more fun to analyze a mix of canon and fanon this way, rather than pure canon. since smallville is so scattered and relatively slow with its central storyline, it's much more interesting, i think, to weed out these archetypical underlying themes.
now, to put draco in the hero's quest starring role makes things much more interesting. although nearly impossible, coming purely from canon, because obviously lex is much more well-characterized than draco, whatever his moral orientation (and i found it fascinating that in her hero's journey for lex, she had him return to Darkness as the final stage). hm. must think further on this.
in other news, i've decided that i'm a sucker for good ole-fashioned smarm. ever since the Trilogy was called that, i can't get it out of my head. yes. smarm, "the kissing cousin of slash". heh. never let it be said that i like the emotional aspect of slash more than the physical, but it's probably my initial lure and will always have a cozy place in my heart. i dunno if smarm exists in "real life", but i hope it does. i think that's really what us boy-love fangirls want to see, more than just hot xy-chromosomed lurve. *sigh* there's a lot of books, a -lot- of books (a great many of them YA books), with extremely close friendships between boys, much closer than between them and any females, especially in coming-of-age stories. i can think of like, 5 examples in the first 5 seconds. and i've always loved these stories. i guess if you wanted you can slash them all-- and i wouldn't protest, really-- but there's just-- something, about really intense passionate friendship, especially among a group (boys) who aren't exactly known for their shmoopy sentimentality.
maybe it's just that the female readers can thus identify better with these boys, since they seem more emotionally complex and interpersonally-oriented this way. maybe it's just a relief to take the eternal tension of the sex question out of the equation (which so many girls are sick of, growing up). girls and boys have limited communication abilities and opportunities, in their formative years, and the deep, abiding friendships formed are usually of the same-sex variety, for both genders. and i definitely remember adoring these deep friendships with all my heart, in many a book, without wishing they'd kiss (obviously). it's like we all grew up and now-- we're inflicting our own libidos upon them. not to say that cassie's harry & draco are 12, or innocents, or anything, but neither are a lot of the other boys in the stories. hmm. *sigh* just. smarm is good~:)
i was always a sucker for growing-up-together friendships in general, same-sex or not-- and usually, if they grew up to be intimate, i was extremely happy, just because kissing and sex are happy things that you share with those who mean the most to you, hopefully. but a part of me is still that younger self, who didn't think so far ahead, and just-- liked to bask in the secret sentimentality of boys~:)
~~
ack..! i'm in love-- again. with pure art, and the fanart and the originals and everything. i love the way she drew juliet (hee! shakespeare fanart!), and of course the absolutely -adorable- pure-art!draco (who's never bored), pure-art!harry (who likes every flavor), pure-art!severus (fangirl magnet), and of course pure-art!tom (who never has fun, hee!).
her harry/draco (hee! ``like tai and matt on digimon"~!) ones are just too cute~! hee! adorable! :D and-- whee!-- pretty-green!james wallpaper, and not-so-evil-genius!snape. & pretty hedwig & harry inks~:)
i find it hilarious that harry potter is famous enough in japan to inspire so much manga, moreso than any other western fantasy book i've ever heard of. and while i find many chibi pics of harry disturbing, some of them are adorable (my word of the day, apparently). like this one of harry & ron (ron is so pretty with his crimson hair and crimson eyes. who know?? and harry-- harry's a hearthrob. but we all knew that.) and then there's this pic of the marauders & harry with ron-- all with little bubbles saying which creature they are, heheheheh.
~~
...ph34r the harry/draco/hermione smut. hee. you know, some things even -i- have never considered. but it's funny, isn't it?? no more `ship debates! sex, sex and more sex! :D
i'm all about wrongness, i am. Newt the Wizard's Apprentice takes some kind of cake, though. i mean.... yes. do i need to say anything?? i don't think i do (and here i was, searching for "newt" pictures because i was thinking of making draco finally get at harry and turn him into a newt & put him into a jar on his windowsill-- thank you, starkiller, for inspiring me *mad cackling*)
i'm also all about the Bad Place, baby. we all know that (ok -i- know that and i tell people this, so you know... anyway). but. i still feel-- bad. because this screen-shot of daniel radcliffe from the recent `trl' appearance is-- well-- um. well. *meeps* it's.... it's.... it's.... ack! *runs away*
~~
disturbing fact: my last name is derived from the uzbekistan root for `reborn'. my first name is derived from the greek eirene, meaning ``peace", after the greek goddess of peace (thus i went through adolescence telling myself i was "peace reborn" *sigh*). but. that's derived from irene. rené has a different origin, according to behindthename.com:
RENATUS m Late Roman
Late Latin name meaning "born again".
i came to the startling conclusion that i agree with
thezeppo. while love, their love, may be "beyond gender", their personalities-- who they are-- are definitely not beyond gender. trying to fit draco's behavior and speech patterns onto a girl precisely shows just how much male pigness (for lack of a better word) he's incorporated into his words and actions. a female might be nastier or she might be more subtle, but she wouldn't be-- just like that. it'd just be ridiculous. like a poodle in a tutu.harry, also, wouldn't fare very well as a girl. and this might have something to do with my discomfort with the interchange of harry & hermione as love interests for draco, and the concept of a "het version" of something. gender isn't so simple. you can't just have a "female version" of either draco or harry without changing a lot of things around.
in fact, if a female acted the same way as draco does in the books, i'd be even more sick of it than i am. i have a much lower tolerance for such stupidity in females-- bitchiness is one thing, but this is pure idiocy and malice. the actions don't make as much sense-- not the insane arrogance and pride, not the male-pure-blood mentality, not the jeering competition with potter in sports, not the making fun of mudbloods in quite the same way, even. it's all testosterone-wannabeism gone astray at least somewhat.
i think any fanon feminizations of draco, anything emphasizing his delicate bone-structure and slight build and his emotional manipulativeness, really miss the point, also. it's very much an alpha-male-wannabe snapping at a competitor for major power. draco wants followers, wants people to listen to him, to obey him, to fear him, etc. he wants to be like his father, but he also wants to be someone in his own right, probably. with a girl, all the dynamics of this would drastically shift, it's just inevitable. the power play would be almost non-existent, between draco and another girl, or even harry and another girl. it's a whole different ballgame. not with what selection of girls is available, anyway. yes, hermione is bossy, but she isn't someone that -strives- for power, she just assumes it, and it would be hard to pursuade her to let go, since she thinks it's only reasonable that what she wants to happen, does. it makes perfect sense. it's not a question of power, i don't think, as much as complete certainty.
so i couldn't really come up with a plausible female!draco model that was still basically canon and yet somehow also female. it just doesn't work for me. i don't see a female harry either, but possibly easier-- perhaps that's why harry is supposedly considered interchangeable with hermione. but really, the male/male dynamic is essential to preserve that certain testosterone spark, that edge. females can have edge, just not draco's sort, exactly. bitchy girls pick on girls-- it's very hard to conceive of a girl picking on a popular, self-possessed guy like that. he'd probably just laugh at her.
but anyway. co-wrote a brief parody drabble-type snippet thing with
unstasis, where everyone's gender is switched-- meaning harry & draco & ron female, hermione male, etc.The catfight (that is, duel), between Dracette and Harrietta:
"Scared, Potter?" would come the high-pitched drawl.
"You wish!" in a girly whiny voice.
"Why are you girls always fighting?? You're so shallow. Why can't you just study and develop your minds? Women!" Hermes would say, sniffing.
"But I want a better dress than Potter, she just doesn't deserve the latest fashions! My -father- will hear of this!"
Ronnette (the tarty Ronnette) stews, jealous of Dracette's wardrobe, wanting to go out with "Pan", Dracette's boyfriend, wishing Harrietta would stop messing about with Dracette and spend some time with her, picking out dresses for the Ball...
~~
Snape, and her cold black eyes, like an evil witch, she would hex Harrietta with a look, trying to make a fool of her, make her life miserable, jealous of her young beauty. Harrietta would stick out her chin and swing her smooth shining black hair, trying to remain above it all.
Snape, who seems to harbor a long-held grudge against Harrietta's mother, Lily, who got the hot guy instead of her. .......
~~
jacynrebekah had quite an interesting entry on smallville's clark (and lex) and his Hero's Journey, one stage at a time. this of course, makes me want to write about harry and his hero's journey, except it's much less subtle in the books, extremely obvious, etc. i mean-- he starts out in the ordinary world (very blatantly-- muggles, etc). he hears the Call-- god, the letters, if anything-- again, very blatant. although he doesn't refuse it at first, he just think he's getting away, he doesn't really want to be The Boy Who Lived, he just wants to enjoy being who he is and away from where he was. dumbledore is obviously his mentor, until he adds on others (hagrid, sirius, and so on). it would be much more fun to analyze a mix of canon and fanon this way, rather than pure canon. since smallville is so scattered and relatively slow with its central storyline, it's much more interesting, i think, to weed out these archetypical underlying themes.now, to put draco in the hero's quest starring role makes things much more interesting. although nearly impossible, coming purely from canon, because obviously lex is much more well-characterized than draco, whatever his moral orientation (and i found it fascinating that in her hero's journey for lex, she had him return to Darkness as the final stage). hm. must think further on this.
in other news, i've decided that i'm a sucker for good ole-fashioned smarm. ever since the Trilogy was called that, i can't get it out of my head. yes. smarm, "the kissing cousin of slash". heh. never let it be said that i like the emotional aspect of slash more than the physical, but it's probably my initial lure and will always have a cozy place in my heart. i dunno if smarm exists in "real life", but i hope it does. i think that's really what us boy-love fangirls want to see, more than just hot xy-chromosomed lurve. *sigh* there's a lot of books, a -lot- of books (a great many of them YA books), with extremely close friendships between boys, much closer than between them and any females, especially in coming-of-age stories. i can think of like, 5 examples in the first 5 seconds. and i've always loved these stories. i guess if you wanted you can slash them all-- and i wouldn't protest, really-- but there's just-- something, about really intense passionate friendship, especially among a group (boys) who aren't exactly known for their shmoopy sentimentality.
maybe it's just that the female readers can thus identify better with these boys, since they seem more emotionally complex and interpersonally-oriented this way. maybe it's just a relief to take the eternal tension of the sex question out of the equation (which so many girls are sick of, growing up). girls and boys have limited communication abilities and opportunities, in their formative years, and the deep, abiding friendships formed are usually of the same-sex variety, for both genders. and i definitely remember adoring these deep friendships with all my heart, in many a book, without wishing they'd kiss (obviously). it's like we all grew up and now-- we're inflicting our own libidos upon them. not to say that cassie's harry & draco are 12, or innocents, or anything, but neither are a lot of the other boys in the stories. hmm. *sigh* just. smarm is good~:)
i was always a sucker for growing-up-together friendships in general, same-sex or not-- and usually, if they grew up to be intimate, i was extremely happy, just because kissing and sex are happy things that you share with those who mean the most to you, hopefully. but a part of me is still that younger self, who didn't think so far ahead, and just-- liked to bask in the secret sentimentality of boys~:)
~~
ack..! i'm in love-- again. with pure art, and the fanart and the originals and everything. i love the way she drew juliet (hee! shakespeare fanart!), and of course the absolutely -adorable- pure-art!draco (who's never bored), pure-art!harry (who likes every flavor), pure-art!severus (fangirl magnet), and of course pure-art!tom (who never has fun, hee!).
her harry/draco (hee! ``like tai and matt on digimon"~!) ones are just too cute~! hee! adorable! :D and-- whee!-- pretty-green!james wallpaper, and not-so-evil-genius!snape. & pretty hedwig & harry inks~:)
i find it hilarious that harry potter is famous enough in japan to inspire so much manga, moreso than any other western fantasy book i've ever heard of. and while i find many chibi pics of harry disturbing, some of them are adorable (my word of the day, apparently). like this one of harry & ron (ron is so pretty with his crimson hair and crimson eyes. who know?? and harry-- harry's a hearthrob. but we all knew that.) and then there's this pic of the marauders & harry with ron-- all with little bubbles saying which creature they are, heheheheh.
~~
...ph34r the harry/draco/hermione smut. hee. you know, some things even -i- have never considered. but it's funny, isn't it?? no more `ship debates! sex, sex and more sex! :D
i'm all about wrongness, i am. Newt the Wizard's Apprentice takes some kind of cake, though. i mean.... yes. do i need to say anything?? i don't think i do (and here i was, searching for "newt" pictures because i was thinking of making draco finally get at harry and turn him into a newt & put him into a jar on his windowsill-- thank you, starkiller, for inspiring me *mad cackling*)
i'm also all about the Bad Place, baby. we all know that (ok -i- know that and i tell people this, so you know... anyway). but. i still feel-- bad. because this screen-shot of daniel radcliffe from the recent `trl' appearance is-- well-- um. well. *meeps* it's.... it's.... it's.... ack! *runs away*
~~
disturbing fact: my last name is derived from the uzbekistan root for `reborn'. my first name is derived from the greek eirene, meaning ``peace", after the greek goddess of peace (thus i went through adolescence telling myself i was "peace reborn" *sigh*). but. that's derived from irene. rené has a different origin, according to behindthename.com:
RENATUS m Late Roman
Late Latin name meaning "born again".
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