~~rambles & a semi-meta fandom question
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reenkaso um... i was considering linking to my r/hr fic... on the fiction alley r/hr `ship thread. and. i can't. i can't. *runs from the hetness*
waaah. i can't. they were like... talking 'bout... ron and hermione... and... and... sex. (*cries*) i'm a ninny. i can't haaaaaandle iiiiiit. i wonder why. i don't know, really. i read![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
ethrosdemon's h/r/hr almost-smutlet ('cause it had no warning, heh), and that was ok. almost... hot. sort of. i mean. i was a bit disturbed, because i was a) sort of liking h/hr(!!) het-sex; b) what the hell?? of course i like it, i'm not exactly slashing-since-birth or anything. so. but.... in my mind. ron and hermione are.... um. well. semi-platonic. *laughs* that's how i deal with it. i just don't want to... go there. kissing is ok. hand-holding. etc. but.... i mean.... *mind rebels once again* ok nevermind. just let me forget i ever wrote that fic...
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::happy sigh:: found this gallery of angel statue images. am blissful. am in awe. i mean... the sheer amount of work and effort required... to have such completely photo-realistic detail in stone. humanity is redeemed all over again every time another artist touches a pen, or a paintbrush, or an instrument, and creates. i fully believe that. forget sainthood. this is the Work. this is the true, the only Work.
want to run away someplace like this and never come back. stone angels and water and old houses and peace. and me, by an attic window, pen in one hand, paintbrush in my pocket, watching the sun go down, slowly, over the edge of the river.
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how many hp slash (or otherwise) fans care much about the magic/fantasy element of either the books or the fanfic they read/produce? is that important? how many of them actually came into the fandom at least partly because of the fantasy genre of the books? i feel vaguely alone. i realize i haven't been writing magic-heavy fanfic, mostly because i'm just getting my bearings, still. but not a lot of fanfic i've read has been even remotely concerned with magic. i realize people probably think jkr covered all that, and defined all the terms, and one need only use them to a greater or lesser extent, and it's the characters that need expanding on-- and that's true. but, if you're a fantasy freak (like i am), it's just hard to resist playing with magic.
i think i can name on the fingers of one hand, the amount of fantasy/romance-heavy fanfic in the fandom. same goes for sci-fi heavy star wars or x-files, or fantasy-heavy buffy/spike stories. just doesn't happen. the only well-known fantasy-laden work i can think of off the top of my head is of course, the Draco Trilogy. others are all suspense, romance, mystery, angst, drama, comedy (or some combination thereof).
are the fans just in it for the characters? i mean, that's ok and everything, just... i mean. if it's a book fandom especially. one wonders. why did you read it? i didn't read it, personally, because i care about quality in my fantasy literature. but i'm assuming part of the fandom sprung from the movie, a part from the "everyone's-reading-hp" craze, but also a part from the natural fantasy-lit-reading population. so. how many of that last group write slash? where are you guys?
um. just curious, mind you.
i guess i was inspired by the large following `smallville' has in the hp fandom. i suppose both are fantasy-themed (kind of), but largely i think it's an attraction to characters. i have no clue how much sci-fi fandom has to do with `smallville' fandom, but i have a feeling not much, since smallville's sci-fi sucks big-time, a major reason (besides the whole, `i don't watch tv except for the spuffy show' thing) i don't watch it. oh well. not like anyone's bothering with this, so i'll just trail off now.
not that i even -want- fantasy-heavy h/d fic, really. just. i feel like... i'm one of the very, very few heavy fantasy readers in this fandom (beyond the lotr crowd-- and face it, if you've read as much fantasy as me, lotr recedes into the background of huge, hulking MotherFics you just let influence you instead of squee over).
waaah. i can't. they were like... talking 'bout... ron and hermione... and... and... sex. (*cries*) i'm a ninny. i can't haaaaaandle iiiiiit. i wonder why. i don't know, really. i read
ethrosdemon's h/r/hr almost-smutlet ('cause it had no warning, heh), and that was ok. almost... hot. sort of. i mean. i was a bit disturbed, because i was a) sort of liking h/hr(!!) het-sex; b) what the hell?? of course i like it, i'm not exactly slashing-since-birth or anything. so. but.... in my mind. ron and hermione are.... um. well. semi-platonic. *laughs* that's how i deal with it. i just don't want to... go there. kissing is ok. hand-holding. etc. but.... i mean.... *mind rebels once again* ok nevermind. just let me forget i ever wrote that fic...~~
::happy sigh:: found this gallery of angel statue images. am blissful. am in awe. i mean... the sheer amount of work and effort required... to have such completely photo-realistic detail in stone. humanity is redeemed all over again every time another artist touches a pen, or a paintbrush, or an instrument, and creates. i fully believe that. forget sainthood. this is the Work. this is the true, the only Work.
want to run away someplace like this and never come back. stone angels and water and old houses and peace. and me, by an attic window, pen in one hand, paintbrush in my pocket, watching the sun go down, slowly, over the edge of the river.
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how many hp slash (or otherwise) fans care much about the magic/fantasy element of either the books or the fanfic they read/produce? is that important? how many of them actually came into the fandom at least partly because of the fantasy genre of the books? i feel vaguely alone. i realize i haven't been writing magic-heavy fanfic, mostly because i'm just getting my bearings, still. but not a lot of fanfic i've read has been even remotely concerned with magic. i realize people probably think jkr covered all that, and defined all the terms, and one need only use them to a greater or lesser extent, and it's the characters that need expanding on-- and that's true. but, if you're a fantasy freak (like i am), it's just hard to resist playing with magic.
i think i can name on the fingers of one hand, the amount of fantasy/romance-heavy fanfic in the fandom. same goes for sci-fi heavy star wars or x-files, or fantasy-heavy buffy/spike stories. just doesn't happen. the only well-known fantasy-laden work i can think of off the top of my head is of course, the Draco Trilogy. others are all suspense, romance, mystery, angst, drama, comedy (or some combination thereof).
are the fans just in it for the characters? i mean, that's ok and everything, just... i mean. if it's a book fandom especially. one wonders. why did you read it? i didn't read it, personally, because i care about quality in my fantasy literature. but i'm assuming part of the fandom sprung from the movie, a part from the "everyone's-reading-hp" craze, but also a part from the natural fantasy-lit-reading population. so. how many of that last group write slash? where are you guys?
um. just curious, mind you.
i guess i was inspired by the large following `smallville' has in the hp fandom. i suppose both are fantasy-themed (kind of), but largely i think it's an attraction to characters. i have no clue how much sci-fi fandom has to do with `smallville' fandom, but i have a feeling not much, since smallville's sci-fi sucks big-time, a major reason (besides the whole, `i don't watch tv except for the spuffy show' thing) i don't watch it. oh well. not like anyone's bothering with this, so i'll just trail off now.
not that i even -want- fantasy-heavy h/d fic, really. just. i feel like... i'm one of the very, very few heavy fantasy readers in this fandom (beyond the lotr crowd-- and face it, if you've read as much fantasy as me, lotr recedes into the background of huge, hulking MotherFics you just let influence you instead of squee over).
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Date: 2002-09-14 05:23 pm (UTC)my god, *yes*. blarg. i have something like 600 books in my own personal library at home (i miss them!) and almost all of them are sf/fantasy. and a lot of them are more contemporary. but the classics and minor authors abound as well.
meh. piers anthony, anne mccaffrey, and robert jordan. three authors who piss me off to high hell. who all, in my opinion, sold out. gah. who used to be good, and wonderful, and now are just sort of there.
and the day that they don't know herbert will be a very sad day indeed. mckillip- have you read the 'forgotten beasts of eld'? i think it's still oop, but my god. what an amazing book. dabbling is good. what i tend to do is obsess for a bit, and then once i've run through my obsession move on to another author. there are only two authors who i am in a constant state of obsession with: moorcock and tad williams. mer.
but it's like- people should read the classics, because then they see where it all came from. the number of people who have never read 'stranger in a strange land' that i've met is really upsetting. meh.
and you're right. they tend to stick with who they know, and that's it. comfort levels. which are good, but if an author starts to run dry it's nice to be flexible enough to move on. there are people that prolly never even make it out of tsr publishing. :weeps:
sorry about making your day snarky... :sniffs:
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Date: 2002-09-14 06:34 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-09-14 06:37 pm (UTC)i watched the escaflowne movie again...
and i was pretty emotional, for hours.
*points at icon* heh
i was really resisting changing my default icon... but anyway.
yea, i've read `the forgotten beasts of eld', heh. that's like, one of my top 5 fantasy books of all time, and probably my favorite of mckillip's and she's my favorite fantasy author, soooo~:)
i adore that book, and her writing style, and...
it's really influenced me for some weird reason. that and the riddlemaster trilogy (was going to say the `riddle trilogy' but then i was like, uh, no, hee~:)
actually, i was thinking `riddle me this' would be a good title for a hp story, but, um...cliche.....
then there's `elvenbane' (by andre norton & mercedes lackey) & the chrestomanci books, `dreamsnake' by vonda mcintyre, `cat's paw' by joan d. vinge, `an alien light' by nancy kress, `more than human' by sturgeon, possibly `finder' by emma bull & `serpent's tooth' by diana l. paxton. as my `most defining sf/fantasy books'. not that you needed to have that list, but what the heck ^.^
phear me and my listing prowess, hee
~reena~:)