~~rambles & a semi-meta fandom question
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reenkaso um... i was considering linking to my r/hr fic... on the fiction alley r/hr `ship thread. and. i can't. i can't. *runs from the hetness*
waaah. i can't. they were like... talking 'bout... ron and hermione... and... and... sex. (*cries*) i'm a ninny. i can't haaaaaandle iiiiiit. i wonder why. i don't know, really. i read![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
ethrosdemon's h/r/hr almost-smutlet ('cause it had no warning, heh), and that was ok. almost... hot. sort of. i mean. i was a bit disturbed, because i was a) sort of liking h/hr(!!) het-sex; b) what the hell?? of course i like it, i'm not exactly slashing-since-birth or anything. so. but.... in my mind. ron and hermione are.... um. well. semi-platonic. *laughs* that's how i deal with it. i just don't want to... go there. kissing is ok. hand-holding. etc. but.... i mean.... *mind rebels once again* ok nevermind. just let me forget i ever wrote that fic...
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::happy sigh:: found this gallery of angel statue images. am blissful. am in awe. i mean... the sheer amount of work and effort required... to have such completely photo-realistic detail in stone. humanity is redeemed all over again every time another artist touches a pen, or a paintbrush, or an instrument, and creates. i fully believe that. forget sainthood. this is the Work. this is the true, the only Work.
want to run away someplace like this and never come back. stone angels and water and old houses and peace. and me, by an attic window, pen in one hand, paintbrush in my pocket, watching the sun go down, slowly, over the edge of the river.
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how many hp slash (or otherwise) fans care much about the magic/fantasy element of either the books or the fanfic they read/produce? is that important? how many of them actually came into the fandom at least partly because of the fantasy genre of the books? i feel vaguely alone. i realize i haven't been writing magic-heavy fanfic, mostly because i'm just getting my bearings, still. but not a lot of fanfic i've read has been even remotely concerned with magic. i realize people probably think jkr covered all that, and defined all the terms, and one need only use them to a greater or lesser extent, and it's the characters that need expanding on-- and that's true. but, if you're a fantasy freak (like i am), it's just hard to resist playing with magic.
i think i can name on the fingers of one hand, the amount of fantasy/romance-heavy fanfic in the fandom. same goes for sci-fi heavy star wars or x-files, or fantasy-heavy buffy/spike stories. just doesn't happen. the only well-known fantasy-laden work i can think of off the top of my head is of course, the Draco Trilogy. others are all suspense, romance, mystery, angst, drama, comedy (or some combination thereof).
are the fans just in it for the characters? i mean, that's ok and everything, just... i mean. if it's a book fandom especially. one wonders. why did you read it? i didn't read it, personally, because i care about quality in my fantasy literature. but i'm assuming part of the fandom sprung from the movie, a part from the "everyone's-reading-hp" craze, but also a part from the natural fantasy-lit-reading population. so. how many of that last group write slash? where are you guys?
um. just curious, mind you.
i guess i was inspired by the large following `smallville' has in the hp fandom. i suppose both are fantasy-themed (kind of), but largely i think it's an attraction to characters. i have no clue how much sci-fi fandom has to do with `smallville' fandom, but i have a feeling not much, since smallville's sci-fi sucks big-time, a major reason (besides the whole, `i don't watch tv except for the spuffy show' thing) i don't watch it. oh well. not like anyone's bothering with this, so i'll just trail off now.
not that i even -want- fantasy-heavy h/d fic, really. just. i feel like... i'm one of the very, very few heavy fantasy readers in this fandom (beyond the lotr crowd-- and face it, if you've read as much fantasy as me, lotr recedes into the background of huge, hulking MotherFics you just let influence you instead of squee over).
waaah. i can't. they were like... talking 'bout... ron and hermione... and... and... sex. (*cries*) i'm a ninny. i can't haaaaaandle iiiiiit. i wonder why. i don't know, really. i read
ethrosdemon's h/r/hr almost-smutlet ('cause it had no warning, heh), and that was ok. almost... hot. sort of. i mean. i was a bit disturbed, because i was a) sort of liking h/hr(!!) het-sex; b) what the hell?? of course i like it, i'm not exactly slashing-since-birth or anything. so. but.... in my mind. ron and hermione are.... um. well. semi-platonic. *laughs* that's how i deal with it. i just don't want to... go there. kissing is ok. hand-holding. etc. but.... i mean.... *mind rebels once again* ok nevermind. just let me forget i ever wrote that fic...~~
::happy sigh:: found this gallery of angel statue images. am blissful. am in awe. i mean... the sheer amount of work and effort required... to have such completely photo-realistic detail in stone. humanity is redeemed all over again every time another artist touches a pen, or a paintbrush, or an instrument, and creates. i fully believe that. forget sainthood. this is the Work. this is the true, the only Work.
want to run away someplace like this and never come back. stone angels and water and old houses and peace. and me, by an attic window, pen in one hand, paintbrush in my pocket, watching the sun go down, slowly, over the edge of the river.
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how many hp slash (or otherwise) fans care much about the magic/fantasy element of either the books or the fanfic they read/produce? is that important? how many of them actually came into the fandom at least partly because of the fantasy genre of the books? i feel vaguely alone. i realize i haven't been writing magic-heavy fanfic, mostly because i'm just getting my bearings, still. but not a lot of fanfic i've read has been even remotely concerned with magic. i realize people probably think jkr covered all that, and defined all the terms, and one need only use them to a greater or lesser extent, and it's the characters that need expanding on-- and that's true. but, if you're a fantasy freak (like i am), it's just hard to resist playing with magic.
i think i can name on the fingers of one hand, the amount of fantasy/romance-heavy fanfic in the fandom. same goes for sci-fi heavy star wars or x-files, or fantasy-heavy buffy/spike stories. just doesn't happen. the only well-known fantasy-laden work i can think of off the top of my head is of course, the Draco Trilogy. others are all suspense, romance, mystery, angst, drama, comedy (or some combination thereof).
are the fans just in it for the characters? i mean, that's ok and everything, just... i mean. if it's a book fandom especially. one wonders. why did you read it? i didn't read it, personally, because i care about quality in my fantasy literature. but i'm assuming part of the fandom sprung from the movie, a part from the "everyone's-reading-hp" craze, but also a part from the natural fantasy-lit-reading population. so. how many of that last group write slash? where are you guys?
um. just curious, mind you.
i guess i was inspired by the large following `smallville' has in the hp fandom. i suppose both are fantasy-themed (kind of), but largely i think it's an attraction to characters. i have no clue how much sci-fi fandom has to do with `smallville' fandom, but i have a feeling not much, since smallville's sci-fi sucks big-time, a major reason (besides the whole, `i don't watch tv except for the spuffy show' thing) i don't watch it. oh well. not like anyone's bothering with this, so i'll just trail off now.
not that i even -want- fantasy-heavy h/d fic, really. just. i feel like... i'm one of the very, very few heavy fantasy readers in this fandom (beyond the lotr crowd-- and face it, if you've read as much fantasy as me, lotr recedes into the background of huge, hulking MotherFics you just let influence you instead of squee over).
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Date: 2002-09-13 02:30 pm (UTC)It's just a taste issue, not that I think fantasy novels aren't well written and all that stuff. Just not my bag, you know?
so. yeah. It was the characters, and just the quirky style she had. It reminds me, actually, of Jane Austen, which I'm a big fan of. The snarking back and forth of characters, the hints of satire, the social commentary. The books are fairly witty, and seem to poke fun at British society at times. They're fun.
also: I still need to feedback your h/r! I pimped it last night in my LJ, but I still need to let you know how much I love it. Because I DO.
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Date: 2002-09-13 02:54 pm (UTC)v.v. happy you like it, 'cause you were most probably an inspiration (with that r/hr-5-years-later story i liked so much)~:D
actually, i like magic-realism in fantasy-- thus i like urban fantasy or modern-day fantasy the best-- where you can have both magic and realist-drama, though i realize "fantasy" makes you think of knights and maidens and the middle ages and geeks in costume, if you're in the mainstream (and um... not that i dislike that, heh).
although, both of the authors you mentioned don't really write "straight" realism, and tickle bits of magic-realism and stuff, i think anyway. (i know vonnegut does most definitely, and people actually think of him as a sci-fi author, even though i know he's got a wider audience, sci-fi/fantasy nuts like appropriating whoever they can, heh...)
my favorite authors usually blur the lines between genres (john barth, a.s. byatt, mary stewart, emma donoghue, etc), though i've got my roots y'know~:)
mucho thanks for ze input. i really was curious~:)
~reena