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[reenka]

One of the things I'm most passionate and nearly-rabid about is evolution vs. intelligent design (and which should be taught), but I generally never discuss it since my aborted attempt to proselytize evolution theory to a mousy girl (well, mousier than me) in my (Jewish) HS. I think people tend to get way too serious and way too stupid about it, and the worst of it is that people who talk about it, at least online, always -try- to sound intelligent and FAIL.

Even the people who're for evolution often sound just as stupid and self-righteous as the others, and omg am I sick of people referring to the 'scientific community' one way or another. It sort of hurts my soul that people... well, people really have no clue what scientists (or academics in general) are like, how 'theories' are received, blah blah. Not that I have a lot of clue, but I used to be a science groupie in adolescence so I did my research & paid attention to the types of people involved, 'cause my interest is always in the people anyway & because I just thought they were cool....

In any case, it's really laughable that people point out loopholes in a theory as if that's the death knell for the whole scientific discipline. DUDE. It's SCIENCE, not RELIGION, so of course it's got research/theory errors-- the main difference is, scientists FIX THOSE ERRORS through further research. *headdesk*

    Anyway, I pretty much accept that people (even people I like) will be like 'scientists this' and 'scientists that' as if scientists have a hive mind, so.... I'm good as long as the person isn't too self-righteous, too stupid, or too humorless.
    So far, this vid snip of Bill Maher's commentary is probably my favorite. I actually laughed till I cried. Oh man... now this... THIS IS WHY WE NEED SNARK, people (...though that's not an excuse to start enumerating reasons we -don't- need it for). :D

"You don't have to teach both sides of a debate... if one side is a load of crap." <333333333333333

Bill Maher = +1,000,000, GW = -1,000,000,00,000 :D
PS: Locked because wank is bad :/

Comments

[sistermagpie.livejournal.com]

LOL! That really does sum it up. I know that's exactly what's driven me crazy before (I remember having the same thing arguing over an episode of a TV show with a psychic investigator). It's not just showing the other side, it's pretending there is another side.

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

You know, I think I'll go out on a limb & say that it's when things are most clear-cut that people have the most insanely intense 'debates', which are really just people having emotional issues with the obvious truth, ahaha. My favorite bits in that clip are examples of simple logic in terms of how science explains things that we'd have no explanation for otherwise, that are really obvious-- like the earth being round. I mean, evolution is observable in the natural world the way earth curvature is observable, once you know what to look for. It's really so maddening that people think it's some sort of complex system of beliefs and claims-- like scientists have a Bible just like the Creationists do. Really, it's like, 'well, what do YOU think happened to the birds on this island?' It's not like Intelligent Design can explain it in the first place, even, 'cause at best you can only use it to say (logically) the earth was CREATED INTELLIGENTLY TO EVOLVE, unless you mean God never rested on the seventh day & is still fiddling around today :)) Oopsie.

But the people I briefly glanced at on the evolution 'side' (it bothers me 'cause it's not a -side-, it's common sense! that shouldn't have a 'side'!)-- anyway, people aren't evolutionists -or- reasonable, saying things like 'faith itself is the appendix of human thought' or whatever. What world are people living in??? I just don't know sometimes.