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You know what fandom has taught me?
    That I don't care as much about what people say as how they say it (meaning, god, I've become anal about bad logic & argument tactics). I mean, I was reading a Jehovah's Witnesses pamphlet yesterday in the Laundry Outing of Doom (with the comforter that REFUSED to wash... or dry) and the thing that bothered me about it (and btw, I used to start twitching at the very idea of Intelligent Design vs Evolution most days) isn't their point but how they totally didn't know a good argument if it bit them on the arse.
    The funny thing is actually that I suck at rational/logical argument (or anything else re: logic)-- it's just that I don't really want to convince anyone of anything-- like, ever, no matter what it looks like. Like, hi, just because [technology can be modeled on nature] (A-->B) and [technology requires 'intelligent design'] (A-->B=C) does not mean [nature is like technology] (A=C). Bzzt, fail. :/

In other words, fandom has made me more anal :))
    On the one hand (as per poll), I don't really care about grammar if Teh Pr0n is hot enuf. But, I mean, I was talking to my mom yesterday (and my mom is a suuuuper hardcore grammar-nazi) and she was like appalled people would hurt their braincells that way (ie, reading ungrammatical things). Then again, she is both a librarian and a professor :> But then, she is totally not the sort of person who'd be in fandom, 'cause like, she takes things she puts any effort/time into Very Seriously, and at least in HP fandom, you'd go insane if you seriously tried to have those sorts of standards. Sometimes I think that the very idea of Fandom + Standards = LOL. ^^;;

Like, for instance, I was reading the answers to the shipper's character-preference poll where people were more okay with the character they liked best in other pairings & I've had this conversation with a person who cared more about Draco's characterization in H/D 'cause she likes Draco more. Both these attitudes seem typically fannish insofar as fans tend to look for certain things [and therefore see them + ignore/discard other annoying/sucktastic consequences]. Like, I think the very approach of a 'normal' person who wants decently-spelled porn (or more likely, doesn't read porn about fictional characters at all!) is different 'cause why would they even click on a link for some random person's NC17 fic? Why would they bother finishing it? Why are they beating their head against a brick wall?

    Like me, I beat my head against a brick wall 'cause I'm [overly] obsessed. Most people are actually less obsessed/fixated and would have left for greener pastures when they realized they cannot feed on these here shrubs anymore. I'm like, "BUT I need to find CAN BUILD MYSELF A BETTER SHRUB!" (aka 'crazy'). I mean, supposedly spelling matters & factual truth [sometimes... sort of] matters Out There, right, in the normal world [mostly because the anal people have POWER... or something], but here it only matters insofar as there are enough crazy-fixated spelling fans (like, supply & demand). I tried to tell my mom that ungrammatical porn exists because there is demand [sort of like bad TV exists because people don't really care for quality as much as they do for entertainment], but I think that just makes her call people stupid/infidels :>

...this entry had no point. Woe. :/
    EDIT: The reason I talk about grammar & not characterization, btw, is that I can talk about grammar normally, even if I care about it. If you get me started on characterization mistakes, I will start twitching & frothing & ranting, so I thought it best to avoid that subject :> My mom says 'grammar = step 1 & comes first', but to the fan, what you care about most always comes first :>

Date: 2006-09-15 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_inbetween_/
In other words, fandom has made me more anal :)) ... I think it made many people more anal ... in the literal sense *cough*

Date: 2006-09-15 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
THAT TOO!! :D
...So now I'm both gay-sex-obsessed AND cranky :D

Date: 2006-09-15 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scoradh.livejournal.com
As far as I can see, talent is talent. You can learn grammar, but if you don't have talent it will not be enough. But even with awful grammar, talent can still shine through. Strange but true.

... why won't this new lj format let me copy and paste?

Date: 2006-09-15 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Yes :> Though it will shine through, the bad grammar/characterization/etc will still annoy the hardcore fan 'cause in fandom especially, I think subject & advertisement (WIPs or longfics or porn counting as 'advertisement' for lack of a better term, with grammar being part of that visual package) is often important than substance/style. If that makes sense. I mean, the thing that shines through seems to be porn moreso than talent, anyway :)) BUT, like, theoretically, in the actual real world it does work that way (unless you mean mass-market genre pulp, which again relies on formula=sell moreso than degree of talent in terms of what readers care about).

Back when I abused adjectives... I wish people didn't tell me my 'talent shined through', 'cause maybe I'd have beat them into submission earlier... as is, I sort of cringe when I remember flowery!Reena :> :>

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