MWPP tl;dr -.-;;

[reenka]

Anyway, the point I wanted to make before I posted the Lamoid S/R Fic I Shall Not Mention in the Future is that it's odd how I -want- to write other things but I'm completely intimidated-- sometimes near-terrified-- by the huge obstacle of Voice (see, it's bolded & capitalized 'cause that's how it is in my head). I have a very hard time getting the Marauders' voices correctly-- and as I rant at myself while reading good RPG userinfos like this this Remus' or this James' or just a number of the better MWPP fics, they -do- seem to have a consistent sort of English-boyishness in terms of their speech patterns that I can never quite achieve.

    Actually, there is a sort of unifying 'tonal' quality to fics in most fandoms-- which is why I love the BtVS-verse and have never felt comfortable writing in it-- I just can't remotely achieve 'Joss-tone' where others can. Similarly, a lot of HP gen and gennish het (and MWPP fic) have different flavors of (young peoples') Britspeak which I adore but can't imitate for the life of me. Strangely, Harry/Draco and say, Harry/Snape don't have a unifying tone in terms of speech (though they do in subject-matter, of course). Perhaps you get more of this phenomenon when you write fics that inevitably focus on more than just two people (as you would with both Trio-fic and MWPP-fic), because it becomes a in-joke type thing rather than just one character's stereotypical style.

Basically, I don't know if people have noticed this-- they probably have-- but it's why my S/R crack!ficlet felt so blindingly wrong to me, besides the merely unlikely/cracked-out things they said/did-- it's somehow much more damning to just know they don't talk like that. At all. -.-;;;
    I find it really interesting that there's no similar 'lingo' associated with the Trio, not in the same way. Hermione has her stuffyisms like 'honestly!' and is much more precise in her speech (which is easy enough to imitate since it's subject-related) and Ron says 'wicked' and 'brilliant' and is effusive (in fanfics!) and Harry's just... normal (whereas almost any type/version of snark passes as 'Draco' fanon for most people in a way it wouldn't for say, James). I feel like for (good) MWPP fics, things are more subtle, maybe; the type of humor/lingo generally used is less based on pure character stereotypes & more based on the types of speech-patterns real people have, or something, which is a lot harder to do for someone who doesn't speak like that.

It gets to the point where I think you could write a really OOC fic and be effectively IC if you had the four of them speak a certain way-- and conversely, I feel like no matter what I write about them, if they don't speak like proper English boys, it's just rubbish. I'm not sure why I have no such hang-up about Harry & gang; maybe in the end, as real as he is to me, he's too real. Maybe a character should be as free of the weight of meta and symbolism as possible-- should just be a person, which is something both hard to appropriate (as a fan) and to easily recreate. I know I have this... I dunno, respect for the independent personhood of Mssrs. Moony, Padfoot, Wormtail & Prongs that I don't have for Harry & Draco, who're my loves but in some ways also my bitches. Hm.
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PS: It also sort of terrifies me that things I've really liked (Song of Ice & Fire, Nobuta wo Produce, Sandman... it goes on) have online fandoms o_0 Just the fact that people feel the need to like, join a fandom for everything they really like *___* I will never be used to that *____* But then, I'm constantly reconvinced I'm not really fannish overall, just sort of... obsessed with things asocially. :> Unless you count HP :>

Comments

[worldserpent.livejournal.com]

I don't think people join fandoms for everything they like, though. If they did, they just wouldn't have any time. I like too many things to be active in fandoms for all of them. I mean, on the internet you're going to find Care Bears pr0n, so fandoms for fantasy novels for adults just don't seem weird.

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

Well, I didn't mean *everything* everything, but... okay, there are a number of people on my flist that... as soon as they find a new book/movie/series they like a whole lot, they'll immediately think of checking out fanfics/online communities for it. It's not like the *fandom* existing in itself is weird to me, plus it's not like I said it's 'weird' in any objective sense.

It's just seeing people I know consistently translating their 'really like this a lot' into 'must investigate/immediately mention its fandom'. I know a couple of people who're really not that emotional/excitable like things without joining fandoms, but most of the fangirls I know do seem to associate enjoying a text with actual fandom. Even if they don't -join- that fandom, I mean-- just kind of immediately thinking of it, I guess, is constantly startling to me on an instinctual level. I understand it well enough, though.

[worldserpent.livejournal.com]

To me it just seems entirely natural. For a lot of people, they enjoy the communal experience. In fact, I would be involved in more fandoms if they existed for the things I liked (in a sense a lot of anime/manga stuff is not possible). I don't always want to read fanfiction for a series, in fact, most of the time not, but I am always interested in what others thought of the plot, characters, ideas, etc.

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

Yes, this is the predominant attitude in fandom in general, which is why I'm fully aware I'm a freak in these parts, not the other way around :>

Though my feeling is more... not that I don't want to discuss it, but that I don't want to discuss it en-masse if it's personally meaningful to me somehow. I always think that once I'm aware of people's perceptions, once they become a group-- seeing the trends, the favorites, the wanky misunderstandings, the slashing/shipping-- it tints how I think of the source text, which is disappointing to me. I guess I think some books/series are less 'vulnerable' to discussion than others, 'cause like-- they're big enough worlds, generally, and also in some ways -generic- enough worlds, with lots of room for tangents and interpretation.

That's how I feel about HP, Star Wars, Star Trek, Highlander, Gundam Wing, X-Files, Buffy, Babylon 5-- though I'm not in all those fandoms, they have that sprawling 'verse in common that allows me to feel I own a piece, have my own little pov, and share the overall landscape as well. In a smaller thing that's less hyped and more 'just something I read/saw'-- I feel like my pov/interpretation/understanding of it permeates every level of my recollection of the story. Almost every detail in a smaller 'verse would -mean- something to me (if I really liked it). It's so much easier to encompass & make my own that I feel it pushed out of my heart/range of intuitive vision if I hear lots of other people's conflicting or loud opinions on it. But that's just me :>