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Hah! [livejournal.com profile] abitloony, whoever you are-- I've found the first Luna that works for me ^^

Almost (but not quite) too insane. The poetry really helps.

Hee. This whole RPG ([livejournal.com profile] natternet) looks to be totally cute and IC~! Whee! ♥ ♥

Every time someone I consider intelligent (from afar, usually) unfriends me, I think this journal became really boring at some point. Alas.

Seriously, I'm very impressed with people who can RP in-character (or, uh, -write- in-character... which I never claimed I do...). Or just generally write with a natural, age-and-character-appropriate 'voice', which is really what's essential to believable RPing (to me). See, I don't think I do different 'voices' for characters -nearly- enough, so basically I can only RP people who're like me (that's... Luna... and also Luna... and then there's Luna). Uh. Which is why I don't write her much (it would be too embarrassing and I'd feel like I was cheating.)
    Basically, I don't think I've ever truly caught a character's voice in HP (though I think I did with Peter Pan... that one time... *sigh*). I mean, at least I know I suck. I really wonder where are the fanfics the good RP-ers write, or whether the talent doesn't necessarily extend itself to plotting, overall characterization and dynamics of multiple characters, non-dialogue things in general, etc-- so maybe it's just the difference between actors & writers. I'd make an... odd sort of actor, I think. If I ever got over my stage fright, that is. Hahah, though I did play a lead role in a school production at age 10 without too much trouble....

I think the best fanfic (as far as I'm concerned) also captures the characters 'voices' distinctively, and makes you -believe- it's Really That Person because they just -sound- like it, if nothing else. (Interesting) people really talk very distinctively. The Hermione here ([livejournal.com profile] parchmentandink) and the Harry, too ([livejournal.com profile] whatherocomplex), as well as most of the old N_A players were really good examples of what I mean, too-- they just speak their characters' language.

I do think that as soon as real 'romance' comes into it, often enough this ICness/voice-accuracy goes out the window and people become walking talking cliches because-- well, probably because the players/writers get carried away with the excitement. Thusly, I think it's truly a mark of a brilliant writer when they can write characters 'in extremis' emotionally still sounding and acting recognizably like themselves. So generally, my choice is either to stop reading romance & read gen (...argh) or to accept my reading choices are very limited-- and I hate the idea of both, because obviously I'm an addict. *sigh*

It's a lot easier when it's not fanfic though, so the writer is more naturally comfortable with the characters-- maybe. I can't say there's really a greater percentage of 'realism' in original yaoi, say, than slash fanfic, not by far. Argh, I am doomed. But on the bright side, that really is a cute RPG.
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Re: Um!

Date: 2005-11-09 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Hi! Um, talking to the people doing the RPing doesn't bother me anymore than talking to writers about their fics does, so no need to worry about butting in or anything :D I'm very impressed by people who can play characters authentically, as I said-- there's that rush of... surprise and even recognition that is different than anything one experiences writing/reading a fic, quite, even as a watcher. As as someone who -has- played a little, I know what you mean about the fun of seeing new facets of dynamics you'd thought familiar. I love going back over old RPs of mine and for some reason I always feel like they're -brill- even though rationally I doubt it, just 'cause of that remembered rush of 'ooh, shiny! new!' or something, I suspect :D ...Though it can't help but make me wish there was fic in my own pairing that gave me that same authentic-voice feeling even more, but I think that's just my little fixation talking, eheheh.
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Re: Um!

Date: 2005-11-09 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
So yeah, you're right, and I totally sympathize with all the difficulties you mentioned with writing H/D-- hahah, and believe it or not, it's sort of nearly inspiring me to write H/D again ('nearly' because I'm definitely also a perfectionist and it's true there's always something more to change about the stuff I've written-- which is partly why I tend to be too lazy to edit, because I -know- that once I -start- it'll be endless-- but anyway, I think my self-satisfaction is mostly 'cause of the pleasure I have in writing/RPing itself, y'know. I know most people as picky as me don't get as much of a kick out of it, but I definitely separate my writing-addicted and my critical self, or I'd probably have gone insane by now from sheer constant self-criticism~:)) So what makes me happy on re-reads is just a good turn of phrase or rhythm (I tend to have that, at least), and just that remembered sense of -fun-. :D

argh, try again -.-

Date: 2005-11-09 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
(This is what happens when I don't proofread.... I don't even know what I was going to say at first). Um. I too get sick of having to have this huge big deal to get H&D together, and yearn for easier, more natural pairings-- and that's when I pack up and run away to Sirius/Remus (though woe, I cannot write them for shit! Alas). It would feel weird to me to give up on a pairing for practical or like, convenience reasons, I guess-- I can leave it alone and not read/write it, sure, but I can't say that impacts my -vision- of why it's a good idea in theory, I guess :> ...and I'm a v. theoretically-minded person -.-

I'm totally with you that Harry wouldn't go for anyone on Voldy's side, but at the same time I don't think anyone but Snape and Voldy get the intensity of reaction Draco inspires in him (like, Harry's prickled by other people, but it's really nothing in comparison, I guess). I think what you said about the temptation to cross the line from 'thinking he's the best thing on earth' & being it is brilliant-- that's it exactly, and it's why I've grown to hate (or rather, be furiously bitter with) fanon and like, a large portion of fandom in general ^^;;; It's very true that most people don't write him IC, and that drives me insane-- but at the same time it's a challenge, and I can't resist a challenge~:) Especially since the potential pay-off is so large... lazy as I am, I'm also ambitious, I guess :>

I think making Draco unsympathetic and yet self-absorbed and delusional is a particular challenge/quest of mine-- like, I'm always out to make characters not-so-sympathetic (like, y'know, JKR actually does, whether or not she means to), and the over-sympathetic Draco in fandom is something that's really driven me up the wall. Then again, most people's Harry doesn't inspire much more confidence in me ^^;;;; I totally see all these problems, and paradoxically it's what I -adore- (and what's so damn tiring, I admit!) about H/D, even now. I'm -dead- tired, completely tired, totally burnt out on all of these issues-- and yet even now, I'm stirred to passionate monologues because I believe in the sheer potential pay-off of overcoming all these obstacles.

There -is- something to be said for naturally developing relationships, of course :D ...Me, I'm a Harry/Ginny shipper in canon, ahahahahah. *coughs* Hey, she prickles him! Badly as that was portrayed, I think she does... but yeah, um, I think the point of H/D is really ridding Harry of his prejudices against Slytherin (as is the point of canon, I think!! no, really!) as it is in ridding Draco of his prejudices against Mudbloods. You're completely right in that it's a dangerous temptation to 'fix' Draco in a lot of ways, or to fix any character in general, but at the same time I think a journey of growth and self-awareness doesn't -have- to be a fix and rather an unfolding, a sort of... maturation process, y'know? It's a really difficult thing to write, but oh god, the challenge of it still makes me salivate~:)) Even moreso 'cause everyone else tends to fail (and me... I also tend to fail, though not as spectacularly as some others, I do believe, ahahah.) :>

I both want to and don't want to change Draco, and same with Harry. I think characters are most interesting in general when they have a central conflict within themselves that is the subject of some kind of crucial transformation. I'm addicted to coming of age stories and drama, and with H/D you have both in spades-- as well as all the sturm-und-drang you ever wanted to last you a millenia, with some left over for safe-keeping. :> Basically, I think it's more true to say no one -does- anything new with the pairing because fandom is largely unimaginative, rather than there -being- nothing new to do with it. ^^;; Yeah, so basically I stopped reading fic and kept shipping H/D, in the end, not a choice most fangirls are willing to make~:)) ...And even me... man, I slip and read a slew of badfics every so often... *sigh*

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