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reenkaI think I realized something, having just read 4-5 fluff!smutty H/D fics in a row-- I don't really have any great problem with H/D as it's widely written in non-canon-specific fluff (given there's some vague bit of wit or humor or cuteness or -something- involved). It's only when people try to write angst, drama or canon-specific fics that I get tetchy and bitchy and all that. I really still love it when the extent of Draco's characterization is 'that bratty prissy snarky competitive boy who secretly loves to bottom and is vulnerable when shagged rotten'. I mean... and Harry is 'that volatile yet dorky fumbling boy that is slightly patronizing yet also reckless and demanding'. I still love that... I mean, it's cute, it's timeless, it -works-... yeah.... It's just, okay, it's been more than three years. So it's not that I don't like it, it's that I want something else sometimes, something meatier that is still yeay on the same level, I guess? And therein lies the problem.
I just realized that a large bit of what gets recced and commented on is snarky fluffy!H/D. And that's fine, I mean... yeah, it's a crowd-pleaser, it's just. It hurts me that that's all we've got to show for ourselves. And it hurts me that most (if not all) of the more serious H/D that's popular makes me want to bang my head against the wall and go WTF FANDOM WTF. And funnily enough, I mean, serious angsty drama isn't my favorite genre in terms of quantity... it takes more out of you to read, so I don't wanna read that much fic in it-- of course I'd be more choosy. But it's more satisfying-- dramas (even funny dramas-- my favorite, oooh!) are what I remember afterwards. I mean, I just read all these fluffy!smutty!snark ficlets and I don't remember -any- of them by name or even author, mostly. They're so disposable it hurts. I kinda want to laugh and laugh when I see my own fluffy!snark recced like it's worth anything. I mean, it took an hour out of my life to write, so....
It's not just H/D, of course-- with any pairing, I'm more likely to 'forgive' sloppy characterizations if there's snark and cuteness involved-- and in fact, a characterization will grow on me if it's snarky. I can never imagine myself saying 'no! it's OOC for this character to be that snarky!' because... well, I'm weak. The snark, it is strong. And H/D is -made- for snark and mockery (and smut, baby), yeah. So no wonder. But I take them seriously, too-- too seriously; that's what I realize. When I care about something this much, it's not enough to enjoy it sometimes, to have a laugh or a wank-- I want to really believe it, really see it. I want to... like, transcend the snark (while, um, still clutching it greedily to my bosom). I want to read fics which are funny and angsty and touching and true, because they can be written and why aren't they. Why -aren't- they.
And I think that's just a defect/flaw/quirk in my personality, really-- always wanting more, being ambitious about silly things. I mean, who cares about stupid fanfiction and some stupid pairing? Really. There are more important things to take seriously, right? Of course. But there's all this potential and... yeah. Potential.
That's why I adored that S/R fic by![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
kabeyk so much-- it's real and angsty and snarky and them. And then I read `Being An Historical Record Of Events Surrounding The Unfortunate Truth-Or-Dare Game Of February The Twenty-Second, And Consequences Thereof' (hehe what a title), which is S/R too and a drama, and that was great, really I recommend it, but it didn't touch me as deeply, didn't have that realness of boyhood and silliness. I really need the silliness, I just want it merged with the angstiness until no one really knows whether to laugh or cry, and just believes (like, see, anything lykaios writes, but um, these R/S drabbles most recently). And then I read bits of an even more straightforward S/R chaptered drama, also popular, and that didn't work for me at -all-, because it was so... I dunno, taking itself so seriously and Sirius was so... sensitive and mature (even about his immaturity), oh my gahd (kill sensitive!Sirius! kill! kill! destroy!) Um.
What was my point? I dunno. I just like rambling about fic. I dunno if you noticed :D
In other news, I saw a reference to someone saying 'sarcasm is the lowest form of humor'. And on the one hand I'm vaguely offended/sad, but on the other I like being lowbrow.
Also, quote from three years ago, because I never change, apparently, haha: "there is a weird phenomenon going on, with my relationship with fanon characters. for some reason, they annoy me if they're made to be nice, or likeable, or reasonable, or intelligent." :D :D :D I love that out of context.
EDIT - Omg, found new fluff!snarky!angst MWPP fic to love, byhiddendaze this time. Yeay. Also: hee! S/R smex!comic ♥
I just realized that a large bit of what gets recced and commented on is snarky fluffy!H/D. And that's fine, I mean... yeah, it's a crowd-pleaser, it's just. It hurts me that that's all we've got to show for ourselves. And it hurts me that most (if not all) of the more serious H/D that's popular makes me want to bang my head against the wall and go WTF FANDOM WTF. And funnily enough, I mean, serious angsty drama isn't my favorite genre in terms of quantity... it takes more out of you to read, so I don't wanna read that much fic in it-- of course I'd be more choosy. But it's more satisfying-- dramas (even funny dramas-- my favorite, oooh!) are what I remember afterwards. I mean, I just read all these fluffy!smutty!snark ficlets and I don't remember -any- of them by name or even author, mostly. They're so disposable it hurts. I kinda want to laugh and laugh when I see my own fluffy!snark recced like it's worth anything. I mean, it took an hour out of my life to write, so....
It's not just H/D, of course-- with any pairing, I'm more likely to 'forgive' sloppy characterizations if there's snark and cuteness involved-- and in fact, a characterization will grow on me if it's snarky. I can never imagine myself saying 'no! it's OOC for this character to be that snarky!' because... well, I'm weak. The snark, it is strong. And H/D is -made- for snark and mockery (and smut, baby), yeah. So no wonder. But I take them seriously, too-- too seriously; that's what I realize. When I care about something this much, it's not enough to enjoy it sometimes, to have a laugh or a wank-- I want to really believe it, really see it. I want to... like, transcend the snark (while, um, still clutching it greedily to my bosom). I want to read fics which are funny and angsty and touching and true, because they can be written and why aren't they. Why -aren't- they.
And I think that's just a defect/flaw/quirk in my personality, really-- always wanting more, being ambitious about silly things. I mean, who cares about stupid fanfiction and some stupid pairing? Really. There are more important things to take seriously, right? Of course. But there's all this potential and... yeah. Potential.
That's why I adored that S/R fic by
kabeyk so much-- it's real and angsty and snarky and them. And then I read `Being An Historical Record Of Events Surrounding The Unfortunate Truth-Or-Dare Game Of February The Twenty-Second, And Consequences Thereof' (hehe what a title), which is S/R too and a drama, and that was great, really I recommend it, but it didn't touch me as deeply, didn't have that realness of boyhood and silliness. I really need the silliness, I just want it merged with the angstiness until no one really knows whether to laugh or cry, and just believes (like, see, anything lykaios writes, but um, these R/S drabbles most recently). And then I read bits of an even more straightforward S/R chaptered drama, also popular, and that didn't work for me at -all-, because it was so... I dunno, taking itself so seriously and Sirius was so... sensitive and mature (even about his immaturity), oh my gahd (kill sensitive!Sirius! kill! kill! destroy!) Um. What was my point? I dunno. I just like rambling about fic. I dunno if you noticed :D
In other news, I saw a reference to someone saying 'sarcasm is the lowest form of humor'. And on the one hand I'm vaguely offended/sad, but on the other I like being lowbrow.
Also, quote from three years ago, because I never change, apparently, haha: "there is a weird phenomenon going on, with my relationship with fanon characters. for some reason, they annoy me if they're made to be nice, or likeable, or reasonable, or intelligent." :D :D :D I love that out of context.
EDIT - Omg, found new fluff!snarky!angst MWPP fic to love, by
hiddendaze this time. Yeay. Also: hee! S/R smex!comic ♥
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Date: 2005-09-23 10:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-23 10:52 pm (UTC)And yet if it's ONLY humor, eventually the lack of substance feels a bit limp :(
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Date: 2005-09-23 11:20 pm (UTC)Not really. But I felt like being non-sequiturial. Or was that non-sensical?
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Date: 2005-09-23 11:22 pm (UTC)(Because clearly I stuff my snark full of... things... yeah... right....)
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Date: 2005-09-23 11:30 pm (UTC)You said the s-word again. In the meantime I actually drafted a post about it, incl. links to the Hunting of the S ... knowing me I'll never post it. Now why does the gay porn vid not help me fall asleep *pokes*
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Date: 2005-09-24 01:17 am (UTC)xoxoxo
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Date: 2005-09-24 01:53 am (UTC)Haha, I haven't been seduced now-- I've been seduced for ages, ever since I read DDTM way back ago. It's just-- I read all those fluffy!smut H/D ficlets and what--? Didn't feel it was worth it to rec any of them. I mean, I smirked and giggled and smiled, and then it was over. My most intense fic-related emotion was seeing yet another squee about That H/D WIP Which I Really Hate and going WHY FANDOM WHY WHY. That was much more intense than the 'hehe, Draco's such a cute little bugger'. Remember when people wrote good, startling characterizations in dramas?? Eh? Did I just imagine that? ^^;
(Though I'm bad 'cause I haven't been keeping up with Maya's WIP, the only light in my window.) XO
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Date: 2005-09-24 04:59 am (UTC)That's all I've got to say really.
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Date: 2005-09-24 05:02 am (UTC)ROFL
Date: 2005-09-24 05:21 am (UTC)