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[reenka]

The ugly truth is, even after all this time in fandom, I think Draco is OMG SO HOT!!1

...it's so sad. I swear to god. -.- -.-

I was just browsing this fan gallery of Draco pics by different fanartists, and dude, the meaner he looked, the tinglier I got. Mmmm, long-haired!Death Eater!Draco <3<3 And oooh, evilly-smirking!Draco. *sigh*
    Also, is it just me or is this OoTP H&D scene where Draco trip-jinxes Harry really hot? Pointy obsessed little mean boy!! :X :X :X He just needs someone to wipe that evil smirk off his face, doesn't he?? (I think my fantasies of whimpering!surrendering!Draco have eaten my brain, yes.) I mean, he so does. It's a truth of the universe.
    Also, I really like this CG!Luna :D And this is a really interesting Tonks.
    And sparcck's `Apotropaic' makes me hummm in pleasure, twisted and dark as it is. I love it when Draco's fierce and focused and resentful and Harry's sort of caught in some twisted spiral of mutual self-destructiveness with him. Yep, that's me, romantic to the max.

*sigh*

See, see, this is why I get all meepish and sad when I see people say that Harry/Zacharias and Harry/Draco are interchangeable. They're so totally not. Zacharias is a bitch, sure, but he's not a nasty little ferret with ickle pink little pawwwws (of lurrrve). I mean. Right, then.
    Also, pretty much any pairing can be cliched if handled by inept writers-- or even mediocre writers. Dude. 'It's all been done' is such a cop-out. Also, even fanon!Draco != Zacharias. If anything, fanon!Draco has magical powers over Harry through his amazing legendary skillz (like being a Veela who can breathe underwater while making kick-ass potions), which Zacharias clearly doesn't. Hmph.

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[black-dog.livejournal.com]

Ohhhhhh, Zacharias = Draco is a pet peeve. Though I have thought about the possibilities of H/Z as either a non-fraught alternative to H/D or as a training-wheels relationship for something, um, meatier. Zacharias might be all that Harry is ready to handle, but you've got to start somewhere. :D

I mean, Z is mildly prickly and vain and in-your-face but in a totally normal and mainstream ultimately validating Hufflepuff kind of way. Where's the deluded, manic, over-the-top, bouncing energy that we know and love in our little ferret-boy? There is no comparison!

Nice art recs, thanks!

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

Heheh, yeah it's the manic crazed-gleam berserker in Draco which I love so much, but y'know, I think that's not typical for fandom or something. Hmm. I think people might just like (fanon) Draco 'cause he's sarcastic & palely loitering (and yeah, prickly but in a performance way, not an out of control way), etc. It is sad, for they are missing out on the crazzed bunny-ferret of lurrve, etc.

Hahaha I'm totally nearly certain Zacharias wouldn't be able to um, really 'get' (and thus want) Harry, 'cause he's so laid-back and rational, it seems, and Harry's all GRR and WHAT and DAMN YOU ALL, etc (at least, when questioned too harshly). He's already got a rational, reasonable friend in Hermione, and I think he gets along more with her 'cause she obviously only nitpicks to help Harry's cause, y'know :> Ahahah yeah, Harry does need to relax, but in a way I don't want him to :>

[black-dog.livejournal.com]

I'm totally nearly certain Zacharias wouldn't be able to um, really 'get' (and thus want) Harry, 'cause he's so laid-back and rational, it seems, and Harry's all GRR and WHAT and DAMN YOU ALL, etc

You know, I've thought about H/Z scenarios (hey, I may be a squib when it comes to writing fic, but I think about it) where Zach is sort of like that little dog that becomes best friends with the racehorse and sort of calms him down and makes him tractable. Z is so fucking laid back he sort of soaks up Harry's tension. Which, BTW, Hermione could never do because I think OOTP shows there is absolutely zero sexual tension snd therefore interest between them. (Which in turn I think is a key to their successful friendship.) Canon!Harry is gay, gay, gay. Though neither he nor JKR may be ready to admit it. :D

I think people might just like (fanon) Draco 'cause he's sarcastic & palely loitering (and yeah, prickly but in a performance way, not an out of control way), etc. It is sad, for they are missing out on the crazzed bunny-ferret of lurrve, etc.

I acutally love fanon-Draco as an independent creation, which I'm allowed to do because I've always thought canon-orientation or, um, disorientation was a free choice for writers. But, yes: no, very much. And can I say how much I love your appropriation of the term "palely loitering" and the idea that his fanon snark is too posed to be really a threat.

*Puts on pontifical hat re: fanon/canon!Draco*

Number one, the Malfoys are not posh, in the least. They are strivers and extremely middle class, thank you. The "Manor" probably has wall-to-wall carpeting, protected by plastic runners, and furniture coordinated with the wallpaper. Or alternately, some fanfic once envisioned it as stucco, with Danish modern interior. Yay!

Number two, although I think Draco clearly has a complicated and ultimately loving relationship with his Dad, they are clearly at outs over whether Draco is willing to imitate his aspiring, schmoozing, workaholic lifestyle, and I suspect D is in rebellion agains this, c.f. B&B scene and no reason to think anything's changed.

I see Draco wearing jeans and unironed shirts under his robes, which he leaves in a pile each night and sniffs in the morning to see if they're wearable. And deliberately cultivating a style that is the opposite of effete and pretentious -- physical, playful, silly -- though the can't or doesn't think to repress the arrogance and sense of entitlement. And yes, a beserker, a real edge, inclined to lose himself when he gets worked up. And oh so delusional.

Sorry to babble on in free association! :D He really is irresistible, though.

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

You should know I love being babbled to as much as I love babbling >:D Especially about fanon/canon!Draco, ahahah. It's probably somewhat of a mental tick to talk about that now ><;;

But now I actually see the Harry/Zacharias now... sort of like the male version of the Luna Effect, right-- someone who comes at things at a different enough and/or calm enough angle to snap Harry out of it... I was just saying I'm not sure what's in it for Zach :> (Heheh, I love calling hi Z, though.) I can definitely see gaygaygay!Harry, though he's rather asexual at this point, and I can see him being bi moreso than Draco, but I also think Draco would get along with more girls better. Hmm.

I love both fanon & canon too, though I'm not sure how I feel about writers -choosing- and declaring they're doing fanon, especially when they set a fic in 6th year and basically write things which make no sense. Perhaps I have a too specialized idea of 'sense', but say, the idea of Draco just not being that obsessed/angry at Potter makes an H/D story unpalatable to me. I don't even understand why people do go WTF??! and read on, on an emotional level, though it's not like I need Draco to be Harry's bitch all the time, not at all. But a Draco who's like 'oh, I guess my dad's wrong & I'll become a traitor to his cause now, lalala and oh, what about Potter? ah, I don't care so much'.... I mean... there are limits I wish people didn't cross even in the name of fanon ('cause they make no rational sense, and it's worse when they're rationalized, too). But now -I- am rambling about -my- pet-peeves :> But I can & do like lots of well-done fanon!Dracos, of course (and think there's much more than one version!)

Heheh I -love- the idea that Draco's not posh & really rebels against his father's ideas of how he should kiss up and shmooze, etc (though I dunno, he seems to do that with Snape & Umbridge). I think it's very true that their personalities are ultimately different enough so that Draco -can't- be the person his father wants, and that's led him to sort of improvising a lot (though spouting the bullshit & attitude anyway). I think he might do what his father wants if he could (like, I'm sure he'd beat Granger if he could, etc, too).

And oh, how I love the sniffing-his-dirty-laundry!Draco. Ahahaha, that's priceless :D Although I dunno if he -consciously- is silly & playful as a rebellion ('cause like, seems like more of an act than I'd credit him with), but he probably does -revel- in being 'wicked' or even embarrassing by his father's standards a lot of times. I mean, he's still pretentious in his own way (like in the robe-shop scene), but he just can't help it; he's just so deluded he really believes the shtick, I think. But, omg, workaholic!Lucius is just so precious, and imagining him as equivalent to Percy makes me giggly to the extreme :D

I do adore wildly casual!Draco :D I think this latest manifestation of fanon, where he's all... uptight, basically, really annoys me because... well, I don't even -like- people like that, haha. Not that Draco's not uptight, but I can't really see him successfully cultivating it... I dunno if I'm giving him too much credit or too little, but it's always that way with me & Draco :>

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[malafede.livejournal.com]

I loved this whole exchange, so inspiring. Yes to everything, he's uptight and pompous by nurture, playful and wicked by instinct, and delusional about the first. Like, he's pleased with himself for being so cool and manipulating potty into losing it through his blaseness -- he kinda did, a couple of times. Omg children play. :D :D Like when he teased Harry about Remedial Potions -- that's really it. He was just playful and wicked and a bit on the fancy side because he was pleased with himself.

and OMG, lucius the workaholic. <3 <3 so true, and draco really wanting to please him and sometimes feeling rebellious because OMG, DAD, YOU'RE SUCH A BASTARD, I CAN'T DO ALL THAT. (... now i have angsty flashbacks.)

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[black-dog.livejournal.com]

he's uptight and pompous by nurture, playful and wicked by instinct, and delusional about the first.

Oh I like this. Yeah, it's the conflict, definitely, that makes him leap out despite JKR's best effort to paste him down flat. And nothing so gross and oversimplified as -- good or evil, DE or not? No melodramatic tyrant father with torture implements in the attic. Just the irresistible appeal of someone running over with energy but clueless about who he is -- admiring his father but not having the same nature, posing, trying stuff on, trashing stuff he resents. He must think that Harry has the identity thing all worked out, TBWL and all that, the poor clueless ferret. And letting it all make him so messed up under that irresistible surface.

Every so often my Draco-infatuation needs a boost. Got one here today, thanks!

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[sistermagpie.livejournal.com]

Why do people not get this? IT'S RIGHT THERE AND THEY DO NOT SEE IT!!

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[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

Slytherins are so hard to understand (http://www.livejournal.com/users/furiosity/97583.html)~:))

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[malafede.livejournal.com]

late answer, but eeh! you're welcome. and thanks right back at you. <3

[black-dog.livejournal.com]

But now I actually see the Harry/Zacharias now... sort of like the male version of the Luna Effect, right-- someone who comes at things at a different enough and/or calm enough angle to snap Harry out of it...

Snap him out of it through his calmness, yes. And also lots of backrubs. And I see taller Zach sort of wrapping himself around Harry from behind and draining the tension out of him . . . And of course, the occasional blowjob.

I'm not sure what's in it for Zach :>

Dude! He's a Hufflepuff! He needs someone to be loyal and attached to, needs to perform a useful service. And he's so clearly testing Harry in OOTP to see if Harry's the One.

I also think Draco would get along with more girls better.

Well, Draco has it much easier, there, because he saves a step: with Harry, it's "OMG GIRLS! How do I act around them?" While with Draco, it's "Look -- girls! More people to admire me!"

I'm not sure how I feel about writers -choosing- and declaring they're doing fanon, especially when they set a fic in 6th year and basically write things which make no sense . . . the idea of Draco just not being that obsessed/angry at Potter makes an H/D story unpalatable to me.

Well, there's free handling of canon, and then there's being just silly. I find, in reading fic, that I don't honestly care if Draco is angsty, or just nasty, or an aloof ice prince who looks down on Harry, or confused, or whatever. It's all good. As long as it preserves some kind of H/D tension. But if he's mellow and there's no conflict at all, then what's the point? Why is it H/D? So I guess I would modify what I said, to clarify that there are lines that can be crossed and others that can't without rendering the story meaningless, because H/D is about doing interesting things with tension. Many options, but if there's no tension, there's no H/D. Is that a better formula?

I dunno if he -consciously- is silly & playful as a rebellion ('cause like, seems like more of an act than I'd credit him with), but he probably does -revel- in being 'wicked' or even embarrassing by his father's standards a lot of times.

OK, I think you're right and "deliberately cultivating a style" does make him sound too calculated, too rehearsed. Better maybe: I really do believe that Draco has made some choices out of rebellion against his father -- to play with the rude-boys and not the pansy-boys, to act like a rough boy and not like an affected twit, etc. And his behavior has evolved naturally from those choices, so yeah, it's more spontaneous, but it does connect somehow with a decision about what he is and is not, or wants and doesn't want to be. And yeah, there are contradictions and tensions, mainly the contrast of sociable-Draco with his utterly magnificent ego, but that makes him even more interesting!

I would babble more but it's really late and I'm brain dead. Actually, I find semi-brain-death, right on the borderline, is a condition highly favorable to babbling! :D

[cursescar.livejournal.com]

Little pink paws of lurve! Yes! *________*

I don't even like Zacharias Smith so I cannot contribute to the Zacharias vs. Draco debate.

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

*weeps* Oh, Draco, he's pink in so many ways *__* I could just see him scratching and biting but really being cute in spite of himself. T_T 'Cause like, he doesn't know he's a ferret, he thinks he's a great big... hyena of evilness >:D Or. Not. You know.

[cursescar.livejournal.com]

Now I just want ferret!Draco porn.

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

Me too :((

Wah.
And just think! You haven't written any yet, have you >:D
VISTAS TO EXPLORE, POINTS TO PONDER!!

[slinkhard.livejournal.com]

Have you seen shaggirl's masterlist?

[ladyrelaynie.livejournal.com]

You know what, Reena?

I really do love you sometimes.

*views lovely Draco's over and over again*

~Relaynie

P.S.: Longhaired!DeathEater!Draco? ROWR total agreement.

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

Heheh I'm glad you like him as much as I do >:D Though he's probably not so much with the being IC, being pretty much a Lucius clone in that pic :>

[malafede.livejournal.com]

In retrospect, I really enjoyed your little Zacharias rant. ahaha, and yeah, zacharias = fanon!draco = wtf? is zacharias posh and torturedly ebil and half the school's shameful wet!dream? maybe zacharias writers don't realise they're writing fanon!zacharias.

This one-sided fandom piss-contest gets funnier the more I think about it. I'm half-way convinced that Draco would be a H/Z shipper, though my reasoning is kinda tortuous.

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

Ahaha, fact remains Draco fans are snarkier than Zacharias fans, anyway :)) So we win the pissing contest, or something ^^;