If you know of/wamt to recommend authors who -are- engaging with OoTP and are fully IC, by all means let me know!! I want something to read :D I find the Draco of `Shadow of his Wings' to be rather fanon!Draco, all ice-princey and everything, which... turns me off majorly... plus it's post-Hogwarts which automatically means some things (the intense anger on Draco's part, Harry's extreme volatility, how much of a hopeless divide in experience/ability there is between them) could be whitewashed by creating that fanon!Draco and saying he's vaguely possible. Which he might be, but... I don't want to think so, I guess. `Oscillate Wildly' was a good fic and I really liked its Harry, but much of it was an AU since the H/D of it took place, quite literally, in an alternate reality where no animosity existed.
I will admit that the fics I'd loved were OOC and/or not necessarily close-to-canon too... but there wasn't precisely the -denial- of GoF so much as a certain creative license taken with its last scene, a lot of times ;) People were referring to specific bits of canon events much more (like, so many fics referred to 'the Handshake' & 'the Train Ride' & 'the Warning in the Forest') even if they were used to make questionable fic concoctions. I often say I believe no one has written completely plausible H/D fic before or after OoTP, and I stand by that still :> Not meaning that as an insult, since H/D is a HIGHLY implausible pairing, and the fact that I find so many fics at -all- plausible/enjoyable/believable is a sign that a) I'm totally obsessed & b) theory and practice aren't necessarily the same thing when it comes to shippers & their fanfic needs :>
As far as the crossroads thing... we were summarizing an attitude we've seen expressed by others as well as ourselves... a certain lack of steam & focus. One-shots are great and I've written loads, but there's only so much they can explore in depth, and I miss the proliferation of lengthy fics (unfinished as they may have been) back in the day. I don't want porn-- we've -got- porn-- what we haven't got much of, as far as we know, is detailed accounts of what happens after the episode of angst or porn or some combination.
And I do see OoTP as a continuation of the other books in many respects... it is only that many (most) people were not, in fact, expecting Harry to act quite so loud & assholish, since very few pre-OoTP fics wrote him that way, if anything. And most people like to imagine Draco as gorgeous debonair ice-prince of legend, and before his Harry's violent indifference in OoTP, it was easier to imagine, perhaps. But if there are oodles of IC fanfic I'm missing, then I certainly will take everything back and happily!
Ahh, I really like Marks' & Zahra's & Circe's ficlets, though Zahra's writing mostly some combination of Theo & Neville & Draco these days, I hear. None except Zarah are posting bits of a post-OoTP longfic WiP as of yet, right?
I do really like Circe's fics in particular, as far as the writing itself... and I actually read everyone you mentioned off and on, and enjoy :> I've just gotten frustrated with the snapshot format, I guess. I want something meatier and yet shippy, y'know. Ahh, I love Zahra's writing but it's just been retreads of basically saying 'Draco hates Harry; Draco wants Harry but won't admit it or perhaps hates him more for it; they never actually talk and most likely they don't fuck either... the end'. I just want... more, and that's because I really like what's there, not because it's not good enough, see?
Zarah's publishing a Hogwarts-era WiP and so are you, though, so we'll see. :D
Hmm. Ironically, I also have just finished a 17500 word one shot, that is post-OotP and h/d and tries to be canonical, and as I wrote it, I was thinking, "would reenka/aja/etc like this?"
Heheh I'm not such a harsh critic, honestly >:D Am easily pleased if there's snark and angry snogging... or any kind of snogging. ICness is a big bonus, naturally. I'm looking forward to it :D
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Date: 2005-01-08 10:59 pm (UTC)I will admit that the fics I'd loved were OOC and/or not necessarily close-to-canon too... but there wasn't precisely the -denial- of GoF so much as a certain creative license taken with its last scene, a lot of times ;) People were referring to specific bits of canon events much more (like, so many fics referred to 'the Handshake' & 'the Train Ride' & 'the Warning in the Forest') even if they were used to make questionable fic concoctions. I often say I believe no one has written completely plausible H/D fic before or after OoTP, and I stand by that still :> Not meaning that as an insult, since H/D is a HIGHLY implausible pairing, and the fact that I find so many fics at -all- plausible/enjoyable/believable is a sign that a) I'm totally obsessed & b) theory and practice aren't necessarily the same thing when it comes to shippers & their fanfic needs :>
As far as the crossroads thing... we were summarizing an attitude we've seen expressed by others as well as ourselves... a certain lack of steam & focus. One-shots are great and I've written loads, but there's only so much they can explore in depth, and I miss the proliferation of lengthy fics (unfinished as they may have been) back in the day. I don't want porn-- we've -got- porn-- what we haven't got much of, as far as we know, is detailed accounts of what happens after the episode of angst or porn or some combination.
And I do see OoTP as a continuation of the other books in many respects... it is only that many (most) people were not, in fact, expecting Harry to act quite so loud & assholish, since very few pre-OoTP fics wrote him that way, if anything. And most people like to imagine Draco as gorgeous debonair ice-prince of legend, and before his Harry's violent indifference in OoTP, it was easier to imagine, perhaps. But if there are oodles of IC fanfic I'm missing, then I certainly will take everything back and happily!
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Date: 2005-01-08 11:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-01-08 11:17 pm (UTC)I do really like Circe's fics in particular, as far as the writing itself... and I actually read everyone you mentioned off and on, and enjoy :> I've just gotten frustrated with the snapshot format, I guess. I want something meatier and yet shippy, y'know. Ahh, I love Zahra's writing but it's just been retreads of basically saying 'Draco hates Harry; Draco wants Harry but won't admit it or perhaps hates him more for it; they never actually talk and most likely they don't fuck either... the end'. I just want... more, and that's because I really like what's there, not because it's not good enough, see?
Zarah's publishing a Hogwarts-era WiP and so are you, though, so we'll see. :D
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Date: 2005-01-08 11:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-01-08 11:36 pm (UTC)