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reenkaYet another thing I find difficult to quite accept about fandom is the notion of knowingly writing OOC characterizations because it "fits with the story". I've seen this said by all levels of writers, quality-wise, so it doesn't seem to be related to how experienced one is.
I mean, I understand drawing upon different things within the range of behavior for any particular character for a story, but the idea of consciously inventing new traits just because it makes it easier-- that falls into dishonest writing practices, no matter if you're a plot-driven or a characterization-driven writer. That is, I see this explained away with "plot is my forte" or what have you, but I can't help but think that if you simply can't see a way to execute that plot in the HP universe, say, you should put it on the back burner & not write it, possibly waiting for new inspiration or new canon. Is that so... difficult?
Besides everything else, it just seems counterproductive to write fanfiction that is intended to focus on plot at the expense of characterization, because the characterization is what makes it derivative, makes it fanfiction rather than an original fic with your original plot. Much as plot is always important, in fanfiction as a genre, it can only be subordinate to the demands of full plausibility in characterization as far as I'm concerned.
This is one of those things that makes me feel rather stymied. It's not like I can force people to realize this and write accordingly, but. I'm not even saying anyone -has- to write in-character because clearly everyone has different notions of what IC -means- for any one character, it's just that I can't imagine a justification for purposefully abandoning that for plot.
Sometimes it seems like there should be a fanfiction/canon school for beginning fan-writers or something. One learns what not to do (until you're Really Good), what the different threads of meta opinion in a given fandom are, the different ways of seeing a particular character. I'm not being pompous, man, just... er... frustrated & puzzled. If people -know- they're writing OOC Draco, for instance, why do they do it?? It's one of the Great Questions of fandom, methinks.
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Well, last night I was finally dragged to a group circle discussion on 'enlightened' topics like uh... the urge to become conscious & such, and though more than half the time I was repressing the urge to laugh since they were all rediscovering the wheel as far as I'm concerned, it got me thinking (...about Draco). These were all over-30 job-having people sitting in a basement in the Village, talking about how they needed to listen to the murmurings of their Higher Self, of a consciousness that's beyond their everyday awareness. Mind you, they'd apparently all gotten this far in their lives without really figuring out they weren't totally pre-programmed robots all by themselves, but how much can you expect from people, I guess?
For some reason this whole metaphysical mumbo-jumbo crap ties into my ideas about Draco, since I always want him to become conscious, to escape his mundane reality and see the Truth about himself, the universe and everything. I mean, it's not that he's a likely candidate for spiritual enlightenment or anything, but that sort of proves my point-- there's no such thing as a 'likely' candidate. Everyone's a Jungian Fool, Draco included. I think one of the (few) good points raised in the talk was that there's really no hierarchy, no scale of intrinsic worth when it comes to degrees of consciousness-- they're all just as valuable, since the smallest speck reflects (contains?) the fathomless ocean, etcetera.
Snape, for instance, seemed to change but superficially, in affiliation, not in his emotional make-up, and the same could be said of Sirius-- and weren't they both the poorer for it?
The question of 'should Draco change' persistently defines my fandom experience, it seems like. As in, it's not only about 'should he', but can he, and also, naturally, how can he?
And it's not that a person isn't -enough- as they are, or that people really -can- change, so much as become more of who they already are. But who people are isn't something most people are fully aware of in themselves, that's all. It's that thing where we all contain multitudes.
So what is the difference between growth as an individual-- becoming oneself-- and just being that individual, not changing one's nature so much as being truly oneself no matter what?
The more I think about it, the more it seems like the difference is an illusion-- meaning, being is a process of becoming. While we retain a constancy of self at the conscious level (basically, our memories and awareness of the self as "I" remain mostly constant), at the same time identity is a fluid thing, responsive to and shaped by different stimuli to a significant enough degree. It seems like if one believes in free will or even just Will, one believes in this basic unity of being and becoming; meaning, we are not static creatures. We can reach for something beyond us, even if we can never quite attain any real transformation of self-- the whisper of Otherness within us remains.
I love the idea that there is a true, unshakeable truth about ourselves that merely exists, there for us to make our peace with.... But I really wonder if a static identity is -possible- in the first place. I mean, are we a product of our memories (which constantly change in clarity and sometimes content) or of the moment (which is ephemeral) or of our genes-- or some ever-unpredictable mixture of all these?
The idea that true satisfaction with life & self-realization lies not in journeying somewhere in search of one's heart's desire but in merely looking deeper within oneself for the answers definitely appeals to me. However, 'becoming' doesn't necessarily imply a journey or a struggle of some sort-- it can merely mean an opening, a sort of broadening of one's perspective. What I mean is, the 'becoming' isn't always a function of an individual's journey through space or dependent on one's active participation; it can be a function of time... an accumulation of experience that becomes insight in a mutation of sorts.
In the end, can we truly forever avoid growth or at least change within ourselves (not necessarily positive or enriching) as time goes on? Of course, certain character traits do remain constant, but is it actually desirable to keep the same range of beliefs & reactions to a variety of circumstances as time goes on?
At the moment, I believe that a higher, more... fully realized 'being' is contained as a constant murmur within our everyday mundane consciousness. The change you can make is thusly intrinsic within your 'unawakened' potential self which is basically the Ego. The smallest growth in awareness is then a crucial reflection of the whole range of possibility out there; the universe of being is basically contained within the individual in this view.
So... the goal isn't the negation of one's current (limited) self so much as the beginning of its expression.
I mean, I understand drawing upon different things within the range of behavior for any particular character for a story, but the idea of consciously inventing new traits just because it makes it easier-- that falls into dishonest writing practices, no matter if you're a plot-driven or a characterization-driven writer. That is, I see this explained away with "plot is my forte" or what have you, but I can't help but think that if you simply can't see a way to execute that plot in the HP universe, say, you should put it on the back burner & not write it, possibly waiting for new inspiration or new canon. Is that so... difficult?
Besides everything else, it just seems counterproductive to write fanfiction that is intended to focus on plot at the expense of characterization, because the characterization is what makes it derivative, makes it fanfiction rather than an original fic with your original plot. Much as plot is always important, in fanfiction as a genre, it can only be subordinate to the demands of full plausibility in characterization as far as I'm concerned.
This is one of those things that makes me feel rather stymied. It's not like I can force people to realize this and write accordingly, but. I'm not even saying anyone -has- to write in-character because clearly everyone has different notions of what IC -means- for any one character, it's just that I can't imagine a justification for purposefully abandoning that for plot.
Sometimes it seems like there should be a fanfiction/canon school for beginning fan-writers or something. One learns what not to do (until you're Really Good), what the different threads of meta opinion in a given fandom are, the different ways of seeing a particular character. I'm not being pompous, man, just... er... frustrated & puzzled. If people -know- they're writing OOC Draco, for instance, why do they do it?? It's one of the Great Questions of fandom, methinks.
~~
Well, last night I was finally dragged to a group circle discussion on 'enlightened' topics like uh... the urge to become conscious & such, and though more than half the time I was repressing the urge to laugh since they were all rediscovering the wheel as far as I'm concerned, it got me thinking (...about Draco). These were all over-30 job-having people sitting in a basement in the Village, talking about how they needed to listen to the murmurings of their Higher Self, of a consciousness that's beyond their everyday awareness. Mind you, they'd apparently all gotten this far in their lives without really figuring out they weren't totally pre-programmed robots all by themselves, but how much can you expect from people, I guess?
For some reason this whole metaphysical mumbo-jumbo crap ties into my ideas about Draco, since I always want him to become conscious, to escape his mundane reality and see the Truth about himself, the universe and everything. I mean, it's not that he's a likely candidate for spiritual enlightenment or anything, but that sort of proves my point-- there's no such thing as a 'likely' candidate. Everyone's a Jungian Fool, Draco included. I think one of the (few) good points raised in the talk was that there's really no hierarchy, no scale of intrinsic worth when it comes to degrees of consciousness-- they're all just as valuable, since the smallest speck reflects (contains?) the fathomless ocean, etcetera.
Snape, for instance, seemed to change but superficially, in affiliation, not in his emotional make-up, and the same could be said of Sirius-- and weren't they both the poorer for it?
The question of 'should Draco change' persistently defines my fandom experience, it seems like. As in, it's not only about 'should he', but can he, and also, naturally, how can he?
And it's not that a person isn't -enough- as they are, or that people really -can- change, so much as become more of who they already are. But who people are isn't something most people are fully aware of in themselves, that's all. It's that thing where we all contain multitudes.
So what is the difference between growth as an individual-- becoming oneself-- and just being that individual, not changing one's nature so much as being truly oneself no matter what?
The more I think about it, the more it seems like the difference is an illusion-- meaning, being is a process of becoming. While we retain a constancy of self at the conscious level (basically, our memories and awareness of the self as "I" remain mostly constant), at the same time identity is a fluid thing, responsive to and shaped by different stimuli to a significant enough degree. It seems like if one believes in free will or even just Will, one believes in this basic unity of being and becoming; meaning, we are not static creatures. We can reach for something beyond us, even if we can never quite attain any real transformation of self-- the whisper of Otherness within us remains.
I love the idea that there is a true, unshakeable truth about ourselves that merely exists, there for us to make our peace with.... But I really wonder if a static identity is -possible- in the first place. I mean, are we a product of our memories (which constantly change in clarity and sometimes content) or of the moment (which is ephemeral) or of our genes-- or some ever-unpredictable mixture of all these?
The idea that true satisfaction with life & self-realization lies not in journeying somewhere in search of one's heart's desire but in merely looking deeper within oneself for the answers definitely appeals to me. However, 'becoming' doesn't necessarily imply a journey or a struggle of some sort-- it can merely mean an opening, a sort of broadening of one's perspective. What I mean is, the 'becoming' isn't always a function of an individual's journey through space or dependent on one's active participation; it can be a function of time... an accumulation of experience that becomes insight in a mutation of sorts.
In the end, can we truly forever avoid growth or at least change within ourselves (not necessarily positive or enriching) as time goes on? Of course, certain character traits do remain constant, but is it actually desirable to keep the same range of beliefs & reactions to a variety of circumstances as time goes on?
At the moment, I believe that a higher, more... fully realized 'being' is contained as a constant murmur within our everyday mundane consciousness. The change you can make is thusly intrinsic within your 'unawakened' potential self which is basically the Ego. The smallest growth in awareness is then a crucial reflection of the whole range of possibility out there; the universe of being is basically contained within the individual in this view.
So... the goal isn't the negation of one's current (limited) self so much as the beginning of its expression.
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Date: 2005-01-07 03:39 am (UTC)I know Draco/Luna shippers.
But I really ship Luna/Ron.
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Date: 2005-01-07 03:44 am (UTC)Harry would never go for Draco's negative-Nancy attitude-- he's too given to fighting bad things rather than dwelling on them. It would almost certainly really annoy him.
The sad truth about Harry is that he's a geek bomber guy... who couldn't live with himself if he was, 'cause he just wants to belong, and hang out with friends, and be loved. Not so different from Draco in some ways.
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Date: 2005-01-07 03:50 am (UTC)GO WITH THE FLOW, GRASSHOPPER!
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Date: 2005-01-07 03:56 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-01-07 04:13 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-01-07 04:16 am (UTC)You just fuelling his delusions of grandeur.
Date: 2005-01-07 04:14 am (UTC)*sigh*
Date: 2005-01-07 04:17 am (UTC)Re: *sigh*
Date: 2005-01-07 04:26 am (UTC)Re: *sigh*
Date: 2005-01-07 04:36 am (UTC)Re: *sigh*
Date: 2005-01-07 04:47 am (UTC)Should I try with another funny snippet? With the actual rimming.
Re: *sigh*
Date: 2005-01-07 04:50 am (UTC)Porn is always good. Also rimming. And Draco making noises, which I seem to be obsessed with-- like moaning, yelling, panting, whimpering, crying, gasping, grunting, squealing, squeaking, hissing, etcetc :>
correction.
Date: 2005-01-07 05:28 am (UTC)"Mmmh," he went, licking a wide path from his balls to the small of his back. His tongue slithered backwards all the way to his puckered hole, and he pocked and stabbed at the stiffened ring of muscles until Malfoy seemingly lost his mind.
"Uuuunph," he panted slamming his forehead repreatedly on the pillow. "Put it inside, oh g-hod," he whimpered. "Oh my fucking God Potter..."
Harry's nose dove inside the hot cavern of flesh as Malfoy's hips started bucking frenzily, and his hands got firmer on his arsecheeks in an effort to guide his helpless backwards thrusts.
"Fuck it, fuck it," and then Malfoy stopped, choking, trashing in one single contorted movement against the mattress. Harry imagined his nipples scraping against the sheets and got so hard he had to cross his legs. "Sweet Merlin," Malfoy sobbed then. "Sweet, so sweet... fuck... fuck..."
"Your arse is so sweet..." Harry sighed, and opened his jaw wide on Malfoy's arsehole, sucking in hard. Malfoy screamed. Harry thought he would come there and then, and when Malfoy's scream turned into high-pitched, suffering moans, he grabbed his own cock and started stroking himself painfully. He thought it would burn his hand it was so hot, and that made him even more desperate to come.
"Fuck me, fuck me," Malfoy chanted, and Harry's hips started to move on their own account, as if Malfoy could double and his doppelganger could be spread-eagled beneath him and be fucked while he rimmed the other. "Fuck my boypussy, Harry, fuck it hard!"
Harry stopped, blinking.
"FUCKING HELL WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING, please..."
... but he couldn't resist to that so he left his cock momentarily to grab Malfoy's buttocks and spread them as wide as they could go and blew air on his entrance, and Malfoy yelled, coming, before it dissolved into baby crying, arse pushing higher and higher as he spurted all over their dirty sheets.
When Malfoy recovered, Harry still had his cock in his hand, and was getting himself off roughly but as if in a daze, looking at Malfoy's little hole shining with spit because all that time Malfoy had not been able to move or roll over or join his legs and hide his shame.
He turned around, though, in the end, but Harry was still jerking off, his eyes narrowed as if in pain and his hand tugging awkwardly and desperaingly at his cock, as if he was still seeing the picture Malfoy made of himself with his arse open and ready and shamelessly exposed in Malfoy's post-orgasmic exhaustion.
Malfoy blinked, and trusting his instincts in the face of Potter's obsessed stare, grabbed the sheets to cover himself.
"What are you doing?"
Potter panted. "Need to come."
Draco wanted to rant at him. But then Harry's eyes followed the fall of a limb of sheet down his shoulder, as if entranced, and Draco gulped.
"Need to..." Potter said, squeezing hard on his cock.
"You need to fuck me," Draco finished for him.
yeeee :D
Date: 2005-01-07 05:33 am (UTC)*sigh*
...boypussy >:D
and Draco vocalizing >:9
Harry likes to watch him, oh yes. Doesn't Draco want to be watched? The more spread open the better, of course :>
Re: yeeee :D
Date: 2005-01-07 05:38 am (UTC)Re: yeeee :D
Date: 2007-02-24 01:32 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-01-08 11:40 am (UTC)WHY MUST YOU BREAK MY HEART SO