- love for the elegantly homicidal -
Oct. 3rd, 2004 01:48 amIt's funny to read two Harry-- er, and-- Draco fics dealing with the theme of spying and intrigue in the same night-- one angst, one fluff. One of them worked for me like a 4th of July firework, and that's
cupiscent's `Firebrand', which is inventive, fast-paced, gritty and gripping. The thing is, it doesn't matter how far-fetched the scenario is if one develops one's core idea to the max, and Dee really does that with gorgeous rigor in a tight, effective short story.
I really love it when I read something different in H/D which avoids sacrificing characterization for ease of realization of the scenario and realistic character dynamics for romance, as well as having a fascinating plot. I can't help but love a story which features strong characters, less than nice characters-- and not ones who're 'nice' or 'not nice' divided along their roles in the story (i.e., the 'good guys' are nice while the 'bad guys' suck). It's just so tempting to make your favorite character into a beautiful misunderstood martyr, I know, but if you buck that impulse and write people as they honestly are, the result is often a thing of true beauty.
Dee's fic is vivid, unapologetic, fierce and meaty. It makes me happy to be a shipper-- someone who wants to see these two make it together because they need each other, against all odds, rather than is willing to believe in some easy fix-- much more than any shmoopy lovey-dovey romance with remorseful Draco and charitable Harry (who make sweet & passionate boylurve at first opportunity) ever could. Because while this scenario isn't necessarily any more likely than the one where Draco 'repents', one -could- project our boys as they are into it, without much need for a lobotomy. Always a good thing.
...Let's just say that the idea of Draco Malfoy in Vladivostok, wearing a grey sweater and holding an AK-47 isn't one I'll want to forget anytime soon. There's just something oddly fitting about renegade!Draco in Siberia. There is!! Also, this greeting by said sweater-wearing person--
"Hello, Potter," Draco Malfoy says. "Fancy meeting you here."
-- made me clap my hands in glee, which is a first. I just really love Draco sometimes. I just do. But especially when he's going for elegantly homicidal. <333 And I love them together, not even in a romantic sense, but in terms of bringing them into contact because they -matter- to each other-- whatever happens, whether they'd admit it or not, whether they realize it or not, they matter. This whole story is a vodka shot-- smooth and harsh and it burns all the way to your heart with seemingly effortless precision.
I do want to see 'what happens' later on, but I don't need to. The fic is more of an image-- a feeling-- a taste at the back of my tongue. Bitter, smooth, gleaming hard like steel and glitter-dry like dust in the sun.
EDIT - Incidentally,
cupiscent's post on writing angstfic was rather helpful and inspiring, but I especially loved the bit about the writer not intending angst to make the reader cry but rather to strand them in helplessness or render them incapable of expressing an excess of seething emotion. That is rather what I've noticed about great tragedy, as well. Ahahaha, resolution is for wimps!! ;D
I really love it when I read something different in H/D which avoids sacrificing characterization for ease of realization of the scenario and realistic character dynamics for romance, as well as having a fascinating plot. I can't help but love a story which features strong characters, less than nice characters-- and not ones who're 'nice' or 'not nice' divided along their roles in the story (i.e., the 'good guys' are nice while the 'bad guys' suck). It's just so tempting to make your favorite character into a beautiful misunderstood martyr, I know, but if you buck that impulse and write people as they honestly are, the result is often a thing of true beauty.
Dee's fic is vivid, unapologetic, fierce and meaty. It makes me happy to be a shipper-- someone who wants to see these two make it together because they need each other, against all odds, rather than is willing to believe in some easy fix-- much more than any shmoopy lovey-dovey romance with remorseful Draco and charitable Harry (who make sweet & passionate boylurve at first opportunity) ever could. Because while this scenario isn't necessarily any more likely than the one where Draco 'repents', one -could- project our boys as they are into it, without much need for a lobotomy. Always a good thing.
...Let's just say that the idea of Draco Malfoy in Vladivostok, wearing a grey sweater and holding an AK-47 isn't one I'll want to forget anytime soon. There's just something oddly fitting about renegade!Draco in Siberia. There is!! Also, this greeting by said sweater-wearing person--
"Hello, Potter," Draco Malfoy says. "Fancy meeting you here."
-- made me clap my hands in glee, which is a first. I just really love Draco sometimes. I just do. But especially when he's going for elegantly homicidal. <333 And I love them together, not even in a romantic sense, but in terms of bringing them into contact because they -matter- to each other-- whatever happens, whether they'd admit it or not, whether they realize it or not, they matter. This whole story is a vodka shot-- smooth and harsh and it burns all the way to your heart with seemingly effortless precision.
I do want to see 'what happens' later on, but I don't need to. The fic is more of an image-- a feeling-- a taste at the back of my tongue. Bitter, smooth, gleaming hard like steel and glitter-dry like dust in the sun.
EDIT - Incidentally,
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Date: 2004-10-03 01:50 am (UTC)It's just so tempting to make your favorite character into a beautiful misunderstood martyr,
Hm, this actually made me rethink the fic's portrayals a bit. Draco wasn't *quite* this in Firebrand, it was more... all his prejudices' solid bases were justified and all the nastier aspects were ignored (it would have been nice to see a parallel drawn in the wizarding and muggle prejudices, I think, just a sentence or adjective or look or something. I think she did do well in showing the stifling bureaucracy running through both. And how natural it was to intertwine)
I could also make weenie arguments about the likelihood of Harry and Hermione doing what they did, but really, I feel like good counter-arguments could also be brought to bear. And the *story* was so powerful in and of itself that it swept away almost all my resistance as I read.
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Date: 2004-10-03 11:28 am (UTC)I actually did do a double-take at myself when I wrote that line, too. I realize Draco was sleek & attractive in his dark-rebel sort of way (as was Snape, and even Pansy). Really, even though it was Harry pov, Harry was the least 'likable' character (for me) 'cause what he did was so distasteful to me-- and yeah I don't think he'd do it, but since he -did-, even though nothing would turn me off him, I was still disappointed in him, y'know? Like yeah, the story swept away my resistence... and like I sort of said, it might be a far-out unlikely premise, but it works with what it takes as a given in a rigorous way. When I said it wasn't anymore likely than the spyfic with 'redeemed' Draco, I meant that precise thing-- I don't think they'd do what they did. But then, neither would Draco Malfoy do what he did in Olivia's fic.
Like, the fic is... not quite finished-feeling and Draco's... not that well detailed/painted, partly 'cause it's not his story, precisely... and I'm usually semi-dissatisfied with Dee's Draco, anyway, so maybe that's for the best ^^;; It's not school!Draco, to be sure, but then, neither is it school!Harry or Ginny or Pansy. Snape was great, though, I thought.
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Date: 2004-10-03 07:08 pm (UTC)Much agreement with your thoughts on Harry. For some authors, I just mentally adjust myself to the idea that they will handle certain characters certain ways (Draco really cool, Harry really a quivering innocent etc etc). Then it's just a matter of which interpretations I can live with and enjoy, OOC or maybe-this-is-possible-after-character-extrapolation aside. For example, quivering innocent Harry is ok by me, not because I think it's always the best characterization, but because it pushes my buttons. :D
Then again, some really skilled authors handle characters in ways that just set my teeth on edge, and I just have to stop reading. Their skill only twists the knife of their oogy idea that much deeper.
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Date: 2004-10-03 08:13 pm (UTC)I know about the skill & the oogy idea (AHAHAH OOGY!!)
...Man. But I'm a whore for style so I read it anyway -.-
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Date: 2004-10-03 02:36 am (UTC)so that's the coincidence! [dies]
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Date: 2004-10-03 06:28 am (UTC)...it makes me want to not have Harry and Draco fuck like, ever. And then Moody (their spymaster) would be like, CONSTANT ERECTION whenever they dare eyeing each other less than professionally. /lame joke
Off to read good spyfic!
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Date: 2004-10-03 11:14 am (UTC)har. BUT AT LEAST YOU CAN'T SAY YOU DIDN'T LIKE IT 'CAUSE THE DRACO WASN'T (er, bottom) ENOUGH FOR YOU <3 HAR.
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Date: 2004-10-03 11:31 am (UTC)He could still be OOC, you know. :/ It's not the bottomness I protest (that's my gonad protesting) but the coolness, in that rpg you linked me to. It's the same with Bond Draco, but everyone has their buttons, right. I just have a grudge against this tendency some sections of fandom (and mainstream culture as well) have to write everyone as The Fonzie. Don't beat me, I don't mean you.
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Date: 2004-10-03 11:47 am (UTC)I really didn't think Bond!Draco was that cool. He could be (hahah, like in Snitch!) but he... wasn't. Bond!Draco wouldn't need Harry to save him, see. Bond!Draco would be stealing Harry's wand while Harry kissed him. Bond!Draco would use Harry's affection against him, bedding him then escaping, etc etc. That Draco was a complete Hufflepuff.
Dee's Draco is pretty Slytherin in his coolness, at least :>
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Date: 2004-10-03 12:04 pm (UTC)*spams! and plants flag on this journal*
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Date: 2004-10-04 09:19 am (UTC)Yay, I'm totally going to read your rec next, cause it sounds good and also cause I'm a Total Procrastinator today, OMG. So sad. (It's like, I was totally being good and writing and then it started running away on me and turning porny and now I'm scared of it and aughhh whyyy does everything turn into porn whyyy?! Not that it's a bad thing that I'm a ho, but... *ahem* I meant. Um. I'll be okay. Eventually. Hehe.)
the bit about the writer not intending angst to make the reader cry but rather to strand them in helplessness or render them incapable of expressing an excess of seething emotion.
Dude, I just had this convo with a friend of mine the other day. Totally. And we were also wondering how can someone say, for example: 'I'm going to write angst!' You know? I mean, obviously I do have a vision for whatever I'm writing, but I just don't like to label it that directly. (I don't really like labels for most things, I suppose...) But I feel as though it's sort of a cop-out to the writing to say 'this is [whatever].' Hm. I dunno. Probably that's just me. :)
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Date: 2004-10-04 03:23 pm (UTC)Everything often either does turn porny or refuses to when I try. The world is cruel :D Porn is a cruel mistress :D
I know what you mean though-- I've written posts about how I dislike labelling and such-- I mean, I've never tried to write any particular sort of fic, though when I'm in a sarcastic dorky mood, I ain't writing no War and Peace, so to speak :> That is to say, I don't like labels, but tragedy is a very specific and obvious genre, like comedy, which has its own... trends, I guess? Like, separate from those which just govern short stories/novels/etc in general. Like... Hamlet, say, or Oedipus-- pretty straightforward as far as the tragedy/angst. Most people write less straightforward things of course. I kind of like the purity sometimes, though really I kind of hate tragedy. I admire the dedication to form and honesty of portrayal, I guess? Like, no easy answers is always a good motto. Or something like that :>
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Date: 2004-10-05 10:37 am (UTC)Oh God, I hate the porn at the moment. HATE. I was writing this one fic that was supposed to be serious (it was, I swear!) and it was all oh-poor-Harry and Draco-you-wanker and WHY ARE THEY BOFFING IN THE SHOWER OMG MAKE IT STOP!! And then...they keep going cause I think they enjoy mocking me, the bastards. *breathes* I can't ever post this shit, though. For real.
Yeah, I agree re the tragedy being obvious in terms of label/genre and all. And angst too, I think, to a certain extent. I mean, I suppose it's just...I don't like labels in general, and not just for writing. But at the same time, things have to have labels, cause that's how people understand/relate/associate/etc. It's all about socialization, really. I make it sound like I'm all anti-establishment, like: 'Just let it be, man, it's cool' but I'm totally not. I just don't like confining things...or, like, knowing that there's limits, maybe? Hm. Yeah, I guess that's pretty much it. :)
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Date: 2004-10-05 11:34 am (UTC)Well, it's like... I totally dig what you're saying (me and limits?? GAR... this is partly why I can't even stand the top/bottom thing in H/D, 'cause it's like WHY IS IT ALWAYS ONE OR THE OTHER?? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHYYYYYYY??...er) but with tragedy & comedy, it's like, stylized-- in realism there are no limits, see, but in stylized literature it's like sonnet-writing-- you have these boundaries because that's part of the exercise of the writing, see what I mean? When you write a sonnet (or a tragedy), -sure-, you could be writing free-verse, but you're not. But you could be. So it's not really a limit so much as a temporary delineation for contrast purposes, y'know~:)
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Date: 2004-10-04 03:14 pm (UTC)It's just I like the sort of unflinching honesty in a portrayal better than something that's 'just depressing' like people falling out of love or something. I generally prefer people to fight their own worst natures and win-- realistically-- but eh, can't have everything :>
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Date: 2004-10-05 01:11 pm (UTC)But I know that perceived unjustice kills me more, emotionally, than torture and death and loneliness. It's just bleak.
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Date: 2004-10-12 03:42 am (UTC)Holy shiznit. I must read this fic. I love fics that are really removed from Hogwarts like this. Not in the "Harry and co go to Disneyland" kind of fic, but in the "So-and-so's become a drug-lord in Thailand" kind of crazy scenario. Has to be plausible, of course (I really don't like the "Daddy kicked me out cos I'm gay" thing that seems to happen with Draco all the time) but yeah.
Oh, and have you read Acts Infernal? I just finished reading it and am still going "omg omg omg" in my head. I think I like it most because it's so IC it's kinda H/D kinda not... which is good! *cough* Anyway I will stop stalking you now and go over here... *does so*
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Date: 2004-10-12 09:08 am (UTC)Nah, I haven't heard of `Acts Infernal', but I guess I'll look for it, then~:)
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Date: 2004-10-12 03:20 pm (UTC)