Thinking further about the love semantics thread that won't die, a basic question just struck me: is it even -possible- to call yourself an idealist/romantic if what you idealize is partly the imperfection or flawed nature of something [love]? I mean, is the disagreement because people "fully" idealize love by giving it only its very best possible qualities and I idealize it by just really valuing it in all its messed-up painful glory? On some 'ideal' level that can encompass psycho murderers killing their lovers, I basically think all things that pass for love in any individual are 'Good' & 'Right'; the [often messed-up/crazy/violent] consequences are of course another story. I sometimes get messed up like this 'cause I want to see these things (Love, Imagination, Truth, Reason) as basically positive, but they only are in their application. Even knowing they can be seriously fucked with in practice, I still idealize/super-admire them. Which. Makes me an idealist, non?
It occurs to me that maybe the idea is that as an idealist, you're supposed to seek perfection in whatever concept/philosophical construct you fancy, and if you don't find it, you find things [reality] lacking and on some level, false. I mean, you'd have to be really mired in semantics to say this, but I suppose this way one can actually argue that I'm not a romantic or an idealist o_0 Which is... REALLY not true. Uh. o_0 But fact remains someone can (and did) disagree with me -because- they're 'a romantic'. *_____*
...Though I used to be more -naive- than I am now, certainly, as well as more depressed & frustrated 'cause I always realized the world pretty much sucked and there was no obvious way to just... y'know, FIX IT (...while remaining basically lazy and avoidant, but shush) :P But then I learned to relax and love the fuck ups. Most of the time. In any case, it's weird to think that 'real' idealism = beating your head against a brick wall because it's not, in fact, a wooden wall-- and THEREFORE IT'S NOT A *REAL* WALL, you see. I hope not. I mean, I already do enough of that anyway (witness my posts on H/D -.-)
( ...cut 'cause I know no one cares, hahah. )
It occurs to me that maybe the idea is that as an idealist, you're supposed to seek perfection in whatever concept/philosophical construct you fancy, and if you don't find it, you find things [reality] lacking and on some level, false. I mean, you'd have to be really mired in semantics to say this, but I suppose this way one can actually argue that I'm not a romantic or an idealist o_0 Which is... REALLY not true. Uh. o_0 But fact remains someone can (and did) disagree with me -because- they're 'a romantic'. *_____*
...Though I used to be more -naive- than I am now, certainly, as well as more depressed & frustrated 'cause I always realized the world pretty much sucked and there was no obvious way to just... y'know, FIX IT (...while remaining basically lazy and avoidant, but shush) :P But then I learned to relax and love the fuck ups. Most of the time. In any case, it's weird to think that 'real' idealism = beating your head against a brick wall because it's not, in fact, a wooden wall-- and THEREFORE IT'S NOT A *REAL* WALL, you see. I hope not. I mean, I already do enough of that anyway (witness my posts on H/D -.-)
( ...cut 'cause I know no one cares, hahah. )
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