shippiness seems so ridiculous when it's gets very applied. obviously, i'm biased, 'cause if -i- like a couple, i will always squee at a cute pic of them even if it's completely shallow or whatever, but. mostly, i thought the msn article was encouraging as far as it being a good movie, and it's cute thinking of dan listening to the sex pistols and emma having a babe sign on her door. that's pretty much what i remember. also, wheeeeeee, they'll be in the 4th movie..!..!!.!!
as far as the hermione-clings-to-harry (around the end with the timeturner, i guess), that's cute, but. it's like... i don't like shippiness if it's based on cuteness alone. i mean, for some people it means "well, they look good together" and like-- a lot of people look good together and could have a go at a relationship. a -lot- of people. you could maybe have a hard time with hagrid just 'cause there's not a lot to work with, cuteness-wise, but still. if you're just saying, "can we make this look cute", throw me a couple and i'll write a cute nibble of fic for them where they're pretty and 15 and clinging to each other with wet hair.
i mean, i actually don't find rupert grint -or- emma cute (though emma's getting cuter)-- like, at all. seeing them on all the r/hr pictures does nothing for me. my shippiness is obviously superior 'cause it's not based on cuteness. muwahahahaha. okay, 5-year-old!reena out of the way now...
but yah. i'm just a ridiculous romantic and we all know that, so. and sometimes i'm obsessed with things being platonic, like my inexplicable feeling about kirk/spock. like, it's all about rightness-- not what -can- happen, but what -should- happen. maybe love doesn't work like that-- maybe it "just happens", and people click or they don't, and some random combination of circumstances determines whether anything will come of it. i've never actually come to any conclusions about this and i've thought about it way too much, too.
on the shipping war panel at nimbus, they referred to it as the "war of the cliches". i thought that was cutely meta, but in a way it should've destroyed all argument right there-- because as far as which cliche you prefer-- there's no debating that. you can sort of deduce which cliche jkr prefers if you try to be objective-- and for the longest time, i have been a non-shipper, so maybe i could be. the text sort of -wants- you to see certain things, even if it doesn't succeed at convincing you. you can still tell what it's -trying to do-, most of the time.
like, in `queer as folk' (am using it 'cause i'm listening to qaf vids on repeat again, awww yeah baby)-- sure, you can ship brian/michael if you want, but you can tell where the show is going from the first (just as in the uk version, you can tell it was -not- going there). and it seems easier for me to allow the story to unfold as it wants to in my head. so i see what the story wants me to see most of the time, at least on the surface level. if i were so inclined, i could argue anything i want based on the same text, of course-- and that's where my own enjoyment of what seems to be on the surface (ron/hermione, angry!harry, pathetic!draco) comes in. i -like- how it seems, so i don't bother double-guessing it. i've never figured out -why- i always seem to like these common interpretations, but there you go.
i wouldn't say there is ron/hermione tension or any overt romantic air between them in ootp-- any more so than harry/hermione, anyway. but i guess... because i'm looking for it, i just see how the story seems set up in terms of "cliche bias". it's sort of a feeling of "rightness" because the story has its own bias and you can sort of -feel- it in most stories. sometimes you don't even realize what it is, and then at the end (in a good story), you always think, of course, of course that's how is, there were so many -signs-, and most of them probably aren't lodged in the character interaction but in the general ideals of the story-- the cliche preference you see played out in many other ways. this is a sort of extremely meta way to read it that i can't even -chart- very easily, but it seems most natural to me.
( though naturally, most of this is just my own bias and tendency to see others' writings through the lens of possible evident bias -.- )
okay, i'll shut up now~:) i keep wanting to actually type up my magic-in-the-hp-books entry and getting distracted by stupid things like fluff-fics and fandom stuff. but, no more! magic coming up soonish sometime~~~
as far as the hermione-clings-to-harry (around the end with the timeturner, i guess), that's cute, but. it's like... i don't like shippiness if it's based on cuteness alone. i mean, for some people it means "well, they look good together" and like-- a lot of people look good together and could have a go at a relationship. a -lot- of people. you could maybe have a hard time with hagrid just 'cause there's not a lot to work with, cuteness-wise, but still. if you're just saying, "can we make this look cute", throw me a couple and i'll write a cute nibble of fic for them where they're pretty and 15 and clinging to each other with wet hair.
i mean, i actually don't find rupert grint -or- emma cute (though emma's getting cuter)-- like, at all. seeing them on all the r/hr pictures does nothing for me. my shippiness is obviously superior 'cause it's not based on cuteness. muwahahahaha. okay, 5-year-old!reena out of the way now...
but yah. i'm just a ridiculous romantic and we all know that, so. and sometimes i'm obsessed with things being platonic, like my inexplicable feeling about kirk/spock. like, it's all about rightness-- not what -can- happen, but what -should- happen. maybe love doesn't work like that-- maybe it "just happens", and people click or they don't, and some random combination of circumstances determines whether anything will come of it. i've never actually come to any conclusions about this and i've thought about it way too much, too.
on the shipping war panel at nimbus, they referred to it as the "war of the cliches". i thought that was cutely meta, but in a way it should've destroyed all argument right there-- because as far as which cliche you prefer-- there's no debating that. you can sort of deduce which cliche jkr prefers if you try to be objective-- and for the longest time, i have been a non-shipper, so maybe i could be. the text sort of -wants- you to see certain things, even if it doesn't succeed at convincing you. you can still tell what it's -trying to do-, most of the time.
like, in `queer as folk' (am using it 'cause i'm listening to qaf vids on repeat again, awww yeah baby)-- sure, you can ship brian/michael if you want, but you can tell where the show is going from the first (just as in the uk version, you can tell it was -not- going there). and it seems easier for me to allow the story to unfold as it wants to in my head. so i see what the story wants me to see most of the time, at least on the surface level. if i were so inclined, i could argue anything i want based on the same text, of course-- and that's where my own enjoyment of what seems to be on the surface (ron/hermione, angry!harry, pathetic!draco) comes in. i -like- how it seems, so i don't bother double-guessing it. i've never figured out -why- i always seem to like these common interpretations, but there you go.
i wouldn't say there is ron/hermione tension or any overt romantic air between them in ootp-- any more so than harry/hermione, anyway. but i guess... because i'm looking for it, i just see how the story seems set up in terms of "cliche bias". it's sort of a feeling of "rightness" because the story has its own bias and you can sort of -feel- it in most stories. sometimes you don't even realize what it is, and then at the end (in a good story), you always think, of course, of course that's how is, there were so many -signs-, and most of them probably aren't lodged in the character interaction but in the general ideals of the story-- the cliche preference you see played out in many other ways. this is a sort of extremely meta way to read it that i can't even -chart- very easily, but it seems most natural to me.
( though naturally, most of this is just my own bias and tendency to see others' writings through the lens of possible evident bias -.- )
okay, i'll shut up now~:) i keep wanting to actually type up my magic-in-the-hp-books entry and getting distracted by stupid things like fluff-fics and fandom stuff. but, no more! magic coming up soonish sometime~~~
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