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Omg, omg omg omg!!! I found a brilliant wonderful amazing yummy new fanartist & I think I'll now squee myself silly because.... I am squeeing myself silly!!1 *breathes*

Y'know, a lot of fanart is beautiful, but it doesn't feel like what I imagined -canon- characterizations would look like. I pretty much adore anything well-drawn, but there's just nothing like the happy glowy feeling of recognition one can get from the 'right' looking fanart. I think it might actually even have something to do with style-- some representations work better with some themes.

I think a realistic, more ornate style works well with characters like Umbridge, like Jerome Moo's killer portrait. I think its extreme attention to detail works partly because Umbridge is such an extreme, over-the-top looking character, so it's an achievement to make her look like a 'real person'-- and also makes her a lot creepier.

On the other hand... simple yet evocative line-art and children's-book young characters totally -work- for me the way a lot of older portraits of Harry, Ron & Hermione (and the other kids) don't. I love seeing them looking really -young- and innocent and mischievous and awkward. I just... it's the equivalent of boycrushing fic, which I'm pretty much addicted to. So yeah. Wheeeeee!!1

First of all, there's [livejournal.com profile] gredandfeorge's amazingly adorable H/D pic, which is probably what it'd look like if Harry & Draco really 'got over it' and made friends and stuff. Teeheee!!1 Omg, the tentativeness & the shyness and the boyish dorkiness. And her pajama!Harry just kills me with his too-long sleeves and his cozy scarf & omg, he looks like a really real (and really squeeeeeezable) boy, wahhh.

What really got me, though, was her ickle Ronniekins, 'cause WAH, I've been waiting for someone to draw him the way I see him-- y'know, as a scruffy messy boy <333333 And the combination of realism and cartoonish childishness in the style really just gives the feeling of Ron so wonderfully. He's all bony knees and dorky sweater and huge feet, yes!!1 <3!
    And I've seen a lot of Harry portraits of this sort, but this one just stands out 'cause he has this direct, frank look-- he doesn't look either too happy or too serious-- he just looks... somewhat wary but approachable, and that's so Harry, omg (AND THE HAIR!!).

The thing about (my) Harry is that he's like this by default: casually boyish, scrawny, sweet-looking. Not a Hero Type or a Sexy Loverrrrboy (meh). Though of course I can't resist a Darkly Glaring (or Wickedly Smirking) Harry, too... *sigh*.
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EDIT - Btw, if anyone wants to read a really (and I mean really) filthy H/D drabble I just wrote, feel free.
    [livejournal.com profile] lesselen writes Sirius/Remus like it's all dark mystery & seething poetry & broken glass.

Date: 2004-08-19 06:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] triestine.livejournal.com
Ohhhhh that Umbridge is the stuff of nightmares. I love the Tim Burton doll show feel about her. Beautiful and unsettling at the same time.

So completely and passionately with you on a lot of fanart is beautiful, but it doesn't feel like what I imagined -canon- characterizations would look like. The images I look at every day are beautiful pictures but I think Rowling was very careful to note that none of her characters, save for those with vila* blood in them or the only girl Harry had eyes for so far, possess a great physical beauty. Harry is a kid with a history of abuse, neglect and malnutrition, Hermione has hair from hell and overlarge teeth, Ron is all stretched-out, Draco makes one think of a ferret, Neville is your typical 'fat and clumsy' kid, etc. The adults aren't much better.

And again, you know, can you blame the girls for wanting their Harries and Dracos looking like surfer boys? I know the fan in fanart comes from fanatic, but it should well be fantasy. As for myself, though, I'll try to keep them as close as I can to what they're written like.

(* my country has them in its folklore, and that's how it's spelled :))

Date: 2004-08-19 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
I suppose all that was easy to say 'cause I never really love/want people who're 'perfect' looking. If anything, most of my life I've basically thought the 'pretty' people were 'them' and not 'us' and thus completely out of my range. Heh. And why would I want Harry to be untouchable...?
I suppose I just don't go for icons or sex-objects as much as most people-- my fantasy is mostly to do with personality rather than the perfect nose, so I suppose I'm 'just as bad', just... have different kinks...??
Still... there are far too few artists whose fanart feels 'honest' and honesty is probably just as high of a virtue (in art, for me) as technical ability.

My own ability to really transmit personality through drawing is 'eh' (since I'm not a very conscious artist), but I don't consciously try to make 'em pretty. Meh. I can't think of -one- Ron or Hermione that really felt -real- to me, and how sad is that?

Date: 2004-08-19 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] triestine.livejournal.com
Wholly and utterly agreed. What I wanted to say was that while I think 'meh' when I see a model!Harry, the immediate thought of 'oh, let it be' jumps up to soothe it, because who am I to tell a fellow besotten that her work is beautiful per se but doesn't feel real, not to mention accurate (truthful to the spirit of the book, at least).

On the other hand - diplomacy put aside - model!characters annoy the hell out of me because they could be anybody, interchangeable, especially with those trendy androgynous looks. If writers object when a story has characters you can't tell apart, I can't understand the not only tolerance for, but overwhelming approval of, say, Dracos who could become Harry - or Sirius, since they're all often suspended in early twenties - with a swift hair colour change.

I am so going to get scalped now if somebody reads this reply, I know... but it's how it is. My buttons don't react to the pressure hammered into me from all sides, magazines to adverts to screaming girls, just like you said, and it's not even about conventionally attractive people being 'out of range' - as in reality they aren't - it's simply that it don't rock my socks. I thank Zeus I went to see Spider-Man 2 alone, because I'd have had to endure another evening of incredulous looks from my friends as it became apparent that the sculpted bod de Maguire or the pretty face de Franco did absolutely nothing for me. Some friends, eh? *sigh*

You should make a post linking to the 'honest' artwork as you felt it. I just posted a little something, inspired by your post, because my fantasy is mostly to do with personality is a part of how I approach any new drawing. Thank you for this!

Date: 2004-08-20 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Oh I don't really dislike or want to post bad reviews to artists who're not 'canonish'-- I mean, I just like pretty artwork most of all, but it does get rather repetitive/frustrating to not see much variety. Even [livejournal.com profile] seviet, well known for canonish!Harry & Ron & Hermione, draws her faces too similarly, I think (though there's distinctiveness). [livejournal.com profile] glockgal is really great at characterization, though, and also Alicey & Nasubionna & whoever has that site called `Chamber of Keys'... though she's kinda Disneyish, I still like that she -attempts- to characterize them honestly. I think maybe it's being stuck in slash fandom that doesn't help any :>

This post was mostly to praise [livejournal.com profile] gredandfeorge for her attempts at boyhood realism & stuff, and going from her DeviantArt account, I also found Nico Pony (http://nicopony.deviantart.com/), who is amazing & illustrates canon (yeay) though her Harry doesn't really feel wholly 'Harryish'-- it's still an interesting interpretation. I especially like haircut!Harry (http://www.deviantart.com/view/7620296/) & Second Task!Harry (http://www.deviantart.com/view/9600897/) & omg, the this Potions scene (http://www.deviantart.com/view/9520699/) is just -amazing-, with the pissed-off-teenager!Harry and the greasy-and-yicky-with-jowls!Snape (AHAHAHAH).

Heheh I don't like Franco but duuuuude, Toby's -eyes- (basically like, saying, OMG I'M A WOOBIE LOVE ME NOW!!!) and his puppy-dog look and the way he.... *coughs* ...Just slightly brainwashed by The Man, and also cute boys with pouts :D Not that I think he's quite conventionally attractive, anyway. :> I don't like the Brad Pitt types, for sure, 'cause it's like...eh. Not my type. But I'm a sucker for the pretty if it's -my- sort of pretty, like. Keanu Reeves or Johnny Depp or well, Tobey, 'cause it's like... they've got a certain something... like a look in their eye, y'know. Yeah. :>

I don't think it's actually all that unusual for girls (geek girls especially) to go more for the "thinking girl's sex-object" type look... ahahah my first crush was Spock & I know I'm not alone :D

Portraiture itself is all about personality, no? To me that seems blindingly obvious :D

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