~~ sore on principle.
Apr. 1st, 2004 08:08 pmI realized that the reason I tend to like an author's whole body of work more than any single fic, often enough, is that particular writers tend to have a set of skills I can depend on... and it's those storytelling skills that really attract me, more than any one story. They're like a signature, something I can depend on. Sort of like brand loyalty, with cars or something: one knows that this model has to have some basic characteristics of the whole line. The way a car is made, then, is more important than the specifics of the actual make, so to speak.
I don't care for flashy fics. I don't want to be tantalized or drawn in by the promise of fanservice or a quick fix, even though I -can- be. What I want is a deeper satisfaction that would encompass those things but also transcend them. I don't want a fic to hit my kinks. I don't want to give it that sort of easy way in. I want to love a fic in spite of the fact that it hits none of my kinks, the fact that it refuses to go where I want it to. I want the fic to take me over and make me go where it wants to go. In the end, I'll thank the writer.
I've written things that could be seen as anti-kink before, I think, but I don't mean it that way, at least not this time. I just mean that I dislike the idea of reading (or writing) as purely mental/emotional masturbation. I hate thinking that the pleasure has to be shallow or easy in order to be effective... mostly because I've spent so much time chasing after fics that can easily be seen as a only a fix. I want to be a reader, not a junkie-- and I want writers to treat me as such. And anyway, after enough masturbation, even the biggest junkie gets sore. I'm sore, I guess.
I think I lash out against kink-driven responses to writing or fanart or whatever because I'm always in danger of being overwhelmed like that. Often enough, I just become a puddle of goo more than a person, being reduced to a quivering, unthinking mass by fiction or art. I'm just sensitive, I guess. But I don't want to always be wasting it, always allowing myself to act like some sort of crack-addicted rat or something.
So here's where my favorite writers come in. They seem to have principles, in terms of how much work they put into their stories; they don't seem to only indulge themselves, or just go through the motions. They're really -there- in the work, being honest within the framework of the fic no matter where that takes them.
In the end, I don't care how IC or OOC your fanfiction is, because I've found that really good fanfic always manages to convince me by doing all the work. What I like is fiction that does the work, basically. There's a sense of no shortcuts. That's what makes a good story to me, fanfic or not.
It may seem hard to believe, since fanfic, by "stealing" a setting & characters, seems to imply major shortcuts by its nature, but good fanfic (and all fic) is as much about reinvention as it is about variations on a theme, it seems to me. The best fanfic has to do both, to work for me anyway.
So I'm curious, I guess, as to what sort of principles you'd look for in writing. It was fun writing these down, anyway (wheeee, lists!)
[things I look for]
[things I avoid like the plague]
'Course... none of this is written in stone or anything. The thing about reading (as I've mentioned) is that I like it best when it surprises me. So inevitably, there are plenty of exceptions to every rule. Plenty of fics chock-full of plot-devices which I adore, and many more which are supposedly full of airy nothing which never leave my mind. I suppose "personality" is the one rule that I've never seen broken. If you've got personality in your writing, you can get away with murder, heheh.
I suppose all of this could be seen as me saying "don't be boring". Or maybe, "man, I find way too many things boring these days".
Possibly, what it all comes down to is that I myself like the things going on under the surface of the story more than the actual bare-bones content, at least 70% of the time. There's always a message there, hopefully hidden from direct view; I wouldn't call it subtext, exactly, but maybe that's what that is. It's sort of like flavoring-- something that would make the same scene, the same characters, the same ideas, truly different when handled by different authors.
It probably says something about me that I dislike some authors (that is, their writing) more than I ever actually dislike -people-. I think I just really can't stand seeing the world in certain ways, and reading something brings that home to me much more than just talking to a person. I feel so much more vulnerable, reading. It's like I'm opening up my heart, and they get to hand me any sort of poison or treasure they want. So if it's all dark and jagged and ugly, -I- will feel that way-- all foul. And that's okay if I trust the author, maybe, if I feel like there's something worthwhile and redeeming about the telling. If I feel like I've been told the -truth-, somehow, it's okay. So maybe this whole character-integrity thing gets a weensy bit personal with me, I guess :>
Sadly, analyzing all this never grows old. Am I a dyed-in-the-wool English major or what?? :>
I don't care for flashy fics. I don't want to be tantalized or drawn in by the promise of fanservice or a quick fix, even though I -can- be. What I want is a deeper satisfaction that would encompass those things but also transcend them. I don't want a fic to hit my kinks. I don't want to give it that sort of easy way in. I want to love a fic in spite of the fact that it hits none of my kinks, the fact that it refuses to go where I want it to. I want the fic to take me over and make me go where it wants to go. In the end, I'll thank the writer.
I've written things that could be seen as anti-kink before, I think, but I don't mean it that way, at least not this time. I just mean that I dislike the idea of reading (or writing) as purely mental/emotional masturbation. I hate thinking that the pleasure has to be shallow or easy in order to be effective... mostly because I've spent so much time chasing after fics that can easily be seen as a only a fix. I want to be a reader, not a junkie-- and I want writers to treat me as such. And anyway, after enough masturbation, even the biggest junkie gets sore. I'm sore, I guess.
I think I lash out against kink-driven responses to writing or fanart or whatever because I'm always in danger of being overwhelmed like that. Often enough, I just become a puddle of goo more than a person, being reduced to a quivering, unthinking mass by fiction or art. I'm just sensitive, I guess. But I don't want to always be wasting it, always allowing myself to act like some sort of crack-addicted rat or something.
So here's where my favorite writers come in. They seem to have principles, in terms of how much work they put into their stories; they don't seem to only indulge themselves, or just go through the motions. They're really -there- in the work, being honest within the framework of the fic no matter where that takes them.
In the end, I don't care how IC or OOC your fanfiction is, because I've found that really good fanfic always manages to convince me by doing all the work. What I like is fiction that does the work, basically. There's a sense of no shortcuts. That's what makes a good story to me, fanfic or not.
It may seem hard to believe, since fanfic, by "stealing" a setting & characters, seems to imply major shortcuts by its nature, but good fanfic (and all fic) is as much about reinvention as it is about variations on a theme, it seems to me. The best fanfic has to do both, to work for me anyway.
So I'm curious, I guess, as to what sort of principles you'd look for in writing. It was fun writing these down, anyway (wheeee, lists!)
[things I look for]
- emotional vitality or intensity; a freshness of view (vs. jadedness).
- a broadness of the narrative imagination, as well as a broadness of portrayed or implied emotional range.
- humor(!), whether narrative or the characters'; also charm & maybe cuteness in generous doses.
- a unique style; a sense of personality to the writing.
- high levels of telling detail (i.e., depth).
- a sense of immediacy to both emotions & surroundings.
- a sense of unpredictability and/or mystery (as separate from any actual suspense).
- a sense of wonder or growing understanding; a sense of things falling into place as the story progresses.
- a preciseness of setting, character & language, united in focus with nothing wasted.
[things I avoid like the plague]
- a very narrow emotional focus-- the narrative feels limited to depressive or upbeat tones entirely.
- a shallowness of setting-- where the entire world feels like a prop or a plot device.
- plot-devices & forced-feeling situations in general.
- predictable, mechanical-model plot & character development.
- a sense of an obvious authorial agenda of any sort within the writing; any kind of propaganda or writer-insert statements.
- avoidance of unpleasant scenes or subject matter & a concurrent dwelling on those pleasant (to the author) or vice versa-- i.e., 10 pages for a sex-scene, two paragraphs for a serious talk if outside of a PWP.
- any scene that sacrifices characterization, motivation & emotion for gratuitous fantasy (sexual or emotional).
- gratuitous anything, or a sense of emptiness-- a void of meaning is like story rot.
- the writer patronizing or heavy-handedly manipulating the readers into a preset response; similarly, a writer being overly blatant or transparent so that the reader winds up in a position of power.
I think maybe the process of reading can be seen as a delicate interchange of 'power' between the reader & the writer. As a writer, you can't give too much or too little, and it has to be continuously renewed with every page, possibly even every line. It's like a game of hide-and-seek-- the reader gets to feel like they're tagged, but really, the story's It.
~~
'Course... none of this is written in stone or anything. The thing about reading (as I've mentioned) is that I like it best when it surprises me. So inevitably, there are plenty of exceptions to every rule. Plenty of fics chock-full of plot-devices which I adore, and many more which are supposedly full of airy nothing which never leave my mind. I suppose "personality" is the one rule that I've never seen broken. If you've got personality in your writing, you can get away with murder, heheh.
I suppose all of this could be seen as me saying "don't be boring". Or maybe, "man, I find way too many things boring these days".
Possibly, what it all comes down to is that I myself like the things going on under the surface of the story more than the actual bare-bones content, at least 70% of the time. There's always a message there, hopefully hidden from direct view; I wouldn't call it subtext, exactly, but maybe that's what that is. It's sort of like flavoring-- something that would make the same scene, the same characters, the same ideas, truly different when handled by different authors.
It probably says something about me that I dislike some authors (that is, their writing) more than I ever actually dislike -people-. I think I just really can't stand seeing the world in certain ways, and reading something brings that home to me much more than just talking to a person. I feel so much more vulnerable, reading. It's like I'm opening up my heart, and they get to hand me any sort of poison or treasure they want. So if it's all dark and jagged and ugly, -I- will feel that way-- all foul. And that's okay if I trust the author, maybe, if I feel like there's something worthwhile and redeeming about the telling. If I feel like I've been told the -truth-, somehow, it's okay. So maybe this whole character-integrity thing gets a weensy bit personal with me, I guess :>
Sadly, analyzing all this never grows old. Am I a dyed-in-the-wool English major or what?? :>
no subject
Date: 2004-04-01 08:38 pm (UTC)An aspect of that is layers, palimpsests--a depth of material, not just one stratum of ideas, story, feelings, meaning, but many. This offers the possibility of more than one reading. Most exciting to me is when a book can be read on light and deep levels at once. An example (though a movie not a book) is POTC: romance, wit, broad comedy, slash, commedia dell'arte, profound insight, classical form, postmodern theoretical metatext, and hot sex with inanimate objects. Nabokov has that quality, so do Tolkien, Eco, Sterne, Pynchon, Shakespeare, Austen, Gaddis, Melville, Luther Blissett, Dunnett, Conrad, Forster, Calasso, Sybille Bedford, Hilary Mantel ... most of my favorite authors.
Rowling has it in patches. She isn't in control of it, but in some places she's nailed it (especially in PoA).
What I avoid like the plague? Bad prose--crappy, clumsy handling of words, sentences, punctuation, voice, vocabulary, syntax. I can't bear incompetent technical control of the tools of writing.
no subject
Date: 2004-04-02 07:59 pm (UTC)I don't know if I consciously notice layers as such-- I think I just automatically pick one or two I like almost immediately and see the work that way. I mean... I like to feel that -roominess- there, but I don't necessarily think about it as I read. I definitely notice a lack or presence sort of dichotomy, though. There's just a sense of -depth- if there's subtext-- like the colors & flavors of everything seem more vivid, more intense, because there are more shades of meaning there. I think of it as "vividness", maybe? The closer it is to reality, the more vivid it is, and reality is by nature multi-layered, isn't it.
I think any work that achieves emotional/physical realism would contain that sense of multifariousness. JKR just... has a lot of threads most of the time-- plot threads, but not emotional threads, which I think is what trips her up.
Heheh I wasn't even mentioning my own obsession with style & language-use 'cause I think I take it for granted :>