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er.

this is a really stupid entry, but. hey, it's come up, what can i say.

i'm writing my fic, right (and why does this only happen at -night-, after a day wasted on nothing? why? why??... but yeay, etc. and no, still no friends list reading today. woe.) and... okay, everytime i write a harry-and-draco scene, i feel the need to come up with authentic-sounding insults. but um... it makes me realize that my grasp of boys' insults, especially british boys, is rather sadly limited.

er. so... i was wanting input of the insult variety, teenage brit-speak in particular. hee. this is -fun-. i'm sure that teenage boys have a -lot- of insults going-- i mean, that's what they do, right? they insult each other creatively as a way to break the ice, i'm sure-- or whatever reason. point is, i'm sure there's -way- more than the 5 epithets i know.

i mean, i know there's (two-faced, four-eyed, dirty, stinking, bloody, stupid, ugly, evil, disgusting, fetid[??!], slimey, nasty, simpering, poncey) git, bastard, tosser, wanker, sod, fucker, arse and/or arsehole, idiot (maybe?), prick... and the derogatory terms for queerness, i guess (though i don't think they'd be used in general-insult circumstances).

is moron one of those british-boy words, for instance? jerk (no, right)? loser isn't, is it? i keep having the urge to have them use "moron", 'cause i like the word so much, but they wouldn't, would they. `dirtbag' is probably 100% american-- and anyway, it sounds rather silly.... cockless? is that even a word? o_0 would the size of one's penis even enter into a general insult? ha. "sodding baby"?... "stupid, clueless stinking... motherless... arsehole"? *laughs* i'm trying too hard, aren't i -.-

especially not in a highly-charged situation. what -would- be a highly-charged insult, anyway? i mean, prick and bastard seem too... tame. fucker seems too... all-purpose (although i'm sure it'll do in a pinch), plus if you use "fucking" as an adjective, you can't very well say "fucker". "bloody fucker" seems... eh. nincompoop is right out. um. "stupid bloody brainless hero wannabe" seems... overly verbose, as well as redundant o_0 "witless stinking sod" sounds almost shakesperean, on the other hand. maybe, "witless bloody stinking... sodding... GRYFFINDOR"?... but that's almost -cute-. wah.

so. how would draco insult harry?? :D
and vice versa, if different!

Date: 2003-08-21 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oik.livejournal.com
"Mong" is slang for an imbecile, or more specifically, someone with Down Syndrome.

In the 1990s, there was use of the word "moose" to denote someone as physically unattractive.

Though it sounds weak, "retard" is/was also a popular, adolescent insult in the UK.

I've also heard people being called a "Rotter" though I can only make assumtions as to what it means because I have yet to be told directly.

And there's nothing wrong with being redundant. "Fucking fucker" or "Bloody Fucker" is quite useful as it makes sure the victim is aware that he/she is indeed a fucker, and if he/she was not wholeheartedly listening, he/she was bound to hear at least one of the fucks. This is why "Fucking Fucker Fuck" can also be used. Eh.

I think I'm not making sense anymore, and maybe your Draco or Harry would be better off calling the other an accident rather than use my above examples.

Ah, and I finally contribute, though it hardly seems worthwhile.

Adieu.

Date: 2003-08-21 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
*chortles, thinking of draco calling harry "MOOSE"*
oh, that's priceless.
moose.
i love it. moose. it could be like....
draco: "you... you... MOOSE!!!"
harry: "....." *eyebrow twitch*
draco: "I MEAN THAT!!"
harry: "well, if i'm a moose, you're a FERRET, AREN'T YOU?!?"
draco: "!!!" *violent gleam in eye* "I WILL KILL YOU FOR THAT, POTTER! you... you ACCIDENT!!"
harry: "THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID LAST WEEK, and oh wait, LAST MONTH AND LAST YEAR AND SINCE YOU WERE HATCHED IN A NEST OF MAGPIES, WASN'T IT?!?"
draco: "...."
draco: "now that's just silly."
harry: "well, okay, got me there." :D :D

er. but yeah, thanks :D
that was rather enlightening, actually >:D<
i like the accident idea especially. *laughs*

Date: 2003-08-21 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oik.livejournal.com
So we all get something good from my sudden desire to comment. You gave me a laugh as well.

Accident. Hm, I suppose it's the simple things we look over that simply provide the most entertainment, eh?

You know, I've been meaning to tell you this, but I found your journal because I was looking for people from Binghamton.

Okay. Random. Doesn't matter.

Date: 2003-08-21 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
actually, almost -everything- provides entertainment to me when it gets late at night. hee. i don't know what it is, but i become rather giddy & easily set off. i'm suddenly seized with the urge to write silly-fic. but i must resist, because i don't want to get a reputation. i don't want to be "the one that writes those cute fics that make people giggle". i mean... that and smut. wah. i want to be a Serious Author. i think the mere fact that i want to be one means i'm a) a wanker; b) a hopelessly silly wanker. sigh. not a surprise, of course :D

and wah! are you -in- binghamton -and- you like hp? hee. that's rather cool~:)
not that hp -defines- me and is my greatest interest in life or anything. *coughs* but it does give one a certain feeling of (probably false) unity~:)

Date: 2003-08-21 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oik.livejournal.com
A serious smut author. If that's the rep you don't want, I'm afraid it might be a bit too late.

I'm not in Binghamton yet, but I will be seven-- er, six days from now. School.

Whee, I should have told you earlier, maybe I wouldn't have seemed so creepy.

Date: 2003-08-21 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lasultrix.livejournal.com
Wish I could help, but British slang is so diverse it scares me. So far your assumptions sound right. Loser might work, but jerk wouldn't. Wah. Go bother some Brits - they'll be happy to help you.

Date: 2003-08-21 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
hee. that's what i was doing :D
bothering some brits-- the only ones i know, which are on my friends list-- alex, dahlia, holographis & maybe penelope, though i doubt any of them would respond ^^;

i realized i knew more than i thought, it's just it -takes- thought, since when writing insults, the impulse is to write what -you'd- use as an insult, 'cause it's so instinctive or something.
and then i realize, hey, i don't think i know -american- slang that well, either, since it's all with the 5 words again. maybe if i thought about it ><;;

hee.

Date: 2003-08-21 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
cool! erm. i wouldn't think most things are creepy until someone asks me where i live and when do i leave the house. *laughs* i've gotten rather jaded, i thinK :D and it's -fun- to talk to people, especially when i'm on a useless sabbatical, but like, anytime, too, it's rarely creepy. well, some people are creepy, but no more so in binghamton, online or anywhere else. it's all the same everywhere except that binghamton is more... weird. hard to describe. it's like the twilight zone over here. unless you're a greek-life person in which case you'd be too drunk to notice :D

hee, i'm a serious smut author?
i don't write -that- much smut, and only 2 fics of -serious- smut, but that's okay~:)
i think i write a lot more silly-fic when i'm happy or in the summer, whichever comes first, and a lot more serious fic when i'm more depressed and more smut when. well ><;;

*laughs*

Date: 2003-08-21 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oik.livejournal.com
::making things up:: Perhaps it depends on your personal interpretation of serious. ::checks clock:: Damn, the time's just going by.

What do you mean twilight zone? Exactly what are you going on about? Don't make me more aprehensive of choosing Binghamton than I am already. Oh and of course I'm not a greek-life person. One more question: Have you finished being schooled?

Oh wait, I forgot, where do you live and when do you leave the house?




KIDDING! Honestly! ::falls over::

Date: 2003-08-22 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
hee, well, binghamton's just kind of... unique. it's got lots of weirdoes and wiccans and strange weather patterns and an insane administration and pretensions of actually being a -city-, and... stuff. rod sterling went to high school like, 5 blocks from where i live >:D<

i haven't finished my schooling, no. i sort of went away for awhile, and now i'm back -.-
there are lots worse places than binghamton, of course depending on what you want, and how long you stay here and stuff.
on the bright side, if they nuke nyc, you'd be far away >:D

Date: 2003-08-22 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starlitefaerie.livejournal.com
harry: "THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID LAST WEEK, and oh wait, LAST MONTH AND LAST YEAR AND SINCE YOU WERE HATCHED IN A NEST OF MAGPIES, WASN'T IT?!?"
draco: "...."
draco: "now that's just silly."


hee. you rock, you mad, mad girl. good times.

Date: 2003-08-22 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shatterglass.livejournal.com
::schnoogles your new layout image thing::
...and I have no idea about Brit slang. Perhaps this site (http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/) would help?

Date: 2003-08-22 01:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
hee. thanks :D
um. i know about that site, it's just that it's so general and doesn't tell you which bit of slang is appropriate where, so i'm a bit wibbly about using it. but thanks >:D

Date: 2003-08-22 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shatterglass.livejournal.com
I know what you mean... it's like trying to speak another languege to someone after learning out of an outdated textbook.
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