~~random ficcy thoughts

[reenka]

sara wrote h/d pr0n and i adore it with all my heart-- but i've only read a quarter of it, early in the afternoon. then i had to catch the bus and i -still- haven't gotten back to it. it's always, "just one more thing, and then". my life is a never-ending series of "and then's". naturally, that's neither here nor there. i think eventually, i will write more dumbledore, just because the idea of him amuses me greatly-- but maybe not. i think i can definitely be pompously humorous. heh.

anyway. i wondered (randomly), why is it that depression, narcissism and bipolar disorder are so predominant in the mental disorders hp characters get. i mean-- the possibilities are rather more expansive. there is paranoia, obsessive-compulsive disorder, schizoid disorders of many kinds, phobias aplenty, panic attacks, eating disorders, dementia... heh.
    i'm getting the weirdest sense of deja-vu. like i'm sure i've said this before. in particular, i was fascinated with the idea of like, harry getting extreme paranoia, and building a plot around that. that would just be great. ahahaha, and yeah, obsessive-compulsive harry also strikes me as priceless. also, obsessive-compulsive hermione seems almost natural, heh. also, draco. hee, a lint obsession, or a dust obsession. he could freak out and get a panic attack if someone disturbed his hair. he could secretly have to wash his hands 20 times a day. he could polish his shoes right before bed, and set a spell to wake him at 4:15am because he needs to watch the moon right then in order to make sure the voices go away for another day. heh.

another curiosity is why there isn't more use of `obliviate' as a plot-device. it seems so obvious. i mean, plenty of imperius and crucio and polyjuice and floo powder, all very interesting spells, but no love for obliviating. i mean, yes, -some- fics use it to effect, but mostly it's only used in a straight-forward repetitive sense-- as in, let's just repeat this plot-point over and over, like a rewind button that's stuck on "wash, rinse, repeat". it's the most frustrating thing ever, usually.
    
    what strikes me the most about obliviate is its capacity to break -out- of cycles, not set them. i see much more interesting possibilities in wiping someones memory because you want to -change- things, not repeat. you want to make it so that the person can't argue anymore, can't stop you from doing whatever you want, yes, but what if this isn't a measure of abuse but rather, hope? what if it was used to get your loved one to stay? doesn't that seem obvious?

say you had a big fight. he's leaving. he's heard too many excuses and he's sick of it and there's nothing you can say anymore to keep him. say you're desperate. what do you do? obviously you're not going to imperius him into staying-- and even if you did, you know he'd resent you. but obliviate is such an easy solution. and then things are back to square one, and you could start over, try to fix old mistakes, not make them again. i dunno. i can see draco doing it with no qualms whatsoever.

the other angle would be if you wanted to really, -really- shut someone up, and -then- imperius them. because even if someone lifted or resisted the imperius, there isn't a trail. but i imagine that has less uses. heh.
    okay, so that was just all completely random. also, i'm in love with the dueling!harry action figure. he has a loosened tie >:D< if i get a dueling!draco, i'll just stare at them and pretend draco's loosened it and then he said something way too snarky so they grabbed their wands-- for the moment ^^
    ok, i'll shut up now -.-
   EDIT - mmm, draco/fish. yesssss, mah prettie, and fish you -shall- :D
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also.
why would non-fandom people add this journal? not that i -mind-. but sigh. all i talk about are in-jokey type things, it seems (well, here anyway). *boggles*.
    EDIT - in honor of not being fannish (er... yah), i decided to post a non-fannish pic!

Comments

Art

[(Anonymous)]

I'm in love with the pic. I can't really explain what's so extraordinary about it but, I can see passion and you can tell that is a flower but at the same time it means so much more! At least to me..
<3 the smooth, languid lines. Thanks for sharing your enormous talent;)

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[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

wah. thank you muchly~:D
hee. and possibly, its flower/not-flower nature is rooted in the fact that i didn't initially intend to draw a flower (i never do), but, erm... it just looked like it after a while~:)
it used to be just a bunch of lines and colors. and i'm very glad it worked (on different levels, and for you in particular) :D

[wankersore.livejournal.com]

pretty picture. :)

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

shanks :D
i guess i wasn't insane for posting it, then ^^
yah, of course there are hordes of people screaming, `get back to the meta, woman'. i know it -.-

[ethrosdemon.livejournal.com]

yes, but what if this isn't a measure of abuse but rather, hope? what if it was used to get your loved one to stay? doesn't that seem obvious?

ACKKKKKKKK! You are scary and wrong! That is not hope! That is insanity.

"No, Harry, I won't let you go. I can't live with out you!"

"Put a sock in it, Malfoy, you took the last bagel *again*. I know you never loved me!"

"OBLIVIATE

"Uh, I think I'm getting a headache, Draco. Would you make me some eggs?"

No, that is fucked up.

I agree that Draco might use Obliviate to make his life easier, but that is *not* the same Draco who would love Harry. It's the Draco who does whatever he wants and damn anyone in his way.

Using a spell to erase memory to make your life easier is scary! *see my recent Clark SV fic which is touching this same, exact idea*
It's scary, and I like it! hahahaha

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

hee. yah, i know it's scary... i still like it as a plot-device, though.
it's like, just because draco loves harry (or whoever loves whoever, heh, let's be all open-minded here *giggles*), doesn't mean his morality system has to undergo a huge overhaul, necessarily. especially if he finds himself in a pickle. he might definitely regress.
as far as hope-- hmm. well, it'd be -draco's- hope, you know. and ok, insane hope, but still :D as far as intent goes, it doesn't have to be abusive, but just desperate. yes, yes, shades of season 6!willow :D ahahahah.

strangely, i wasn't thinking of buffy at all when i thought of it. just the beauties of `obliviate'.
people write draco as too much of a wubbly chicken, i say >:D

hmm.

[starlitefaerie.livejournal.com]

i see much more interesting possibilities in wiping someones memory because you want to -change- things, not repeat. you want to make it so that the person can't argue anymore, can't stop you from doing whatever you want, yes, but what if this isn't a measure of abuse but rather, hope? what if it was used to get your loved one to stay? doesn't that seem obvious?

On one hand, I think that's a lovely idea full of possibilities, but on the other it reminds me of season six BtVS, as it's what Willow did to Tara. It's a bit unfair to wipe out someone's memories for your own purposes, to take advantage and manipulate them like that. Do you know what I mean? Like, Harry could wipe Draco's memories so that Draco wouldn't be so envious and hateful, for example, but that isn't fair to Draco, not really. it's like why Wiccans aren't supposed to do love spells because you are making a decision for someone, you are taking away their choice.

Re: hmm.

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

hee. yah. i know it's "wrong", i just think it's an interesting thing to develop into a story or five. because, just because it's not moral, doesn't mean it hasn't made it into a gazillion hp fics. hee. take the unforgivable curses, for example ^^

and i wasn't saying that the "hopefulness" was objective reality, but only the caster's reality.
it's just, i can see draco doing it, most definitely, if he was scared enough. yes. he never -tries- to cast a spell on harry to stop him from leaving or whatever-- or to take back an "i love you", or something. seems so natural, though~:)

Re: hmm.

[starlitefaerie.livejournal.com]

no, i can totally picture it, it's true. and it's not about being moral so much, it's just that it would be a betrayal and if the cursed person ever found out, oh how the badness would emerge.

still, i think it could make for some very interesting stories. are you going to give it a shot? i think you could do it well, most probably.

Re: hmm.

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

*laughs*
well, initially it was something that dinged me in that "reena, write! fic! now!" sort of way, but i'm laaaazy, and swamped with er... work :D
i haven't read most things just because of the stress of -having- to (in my head). i don't mean dv12 (but still, waaaiiiilll), i mean, even really short things.
and the only reason i write things at all is because i simply can't help it. my fingers move of their own will. if i could stop them, i probably would~:)

but yes. there are many "issues" there i find interesting~:) though i mentioned it 'cause it's an interesting plot-device, for more than just one story ^^

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[starlitefaerie.livejournal.com]

>>and the only reason i write things at all is because i simply can't help it. my fingers move of their own will. if i could stop them, i probably would<<

Oh, I know. The trouble that gets me into. I'll be supposed to working on an essay or something but I'll start working on a fic and then my girlfriend will come in and be like, "Are you doing work?" And I'll say "suuuuure" and she'll smile, all pleased with my being focused. And, well, I can't lie to her so then I'll lower my head in shame and mumble "no" and oh, oh how the whining will commence. So I hear ya.

still, if you do decide to work on it at some point I have complete belief that you'll do the idea justice.

[tartpants.livejournal.com]

I have long wanted to write obsessive-compulsive Draco. Would be v. funny, I think.

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

it so, so would~:)
especially if harry wasn't exactly sane, either. wheeee, i *heart* insane characters :D
so your harry is really right up my alley ^^;

[(Anonymous)]

I think you should write a fic in which contains both of the plot points you mention here. Your Draco can use obliviate because of one of his non-run-of-the-mill mental problems, probobly an OCD in which he has to control every aspect of the situation. If the outcome isn't what he expected, even if it's not bad, he feels the need to obliviate and try try again. I also think Harry would be the natural choice to have paranoia, since everyone really IS out to get him. He can become very very suspicious that Draco is making him forget things....
-Kearie

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

wah. that -is- interesting, yes, yes.
but!
why meeeeee? *wails*
there are people just as/more talented than me on my friend's list. ahahah. some of whom, don't write much hp anymore. ahahaha. this is my Evil Plan ;)

[moriavis.livejournal.com]

Obsessive-compulsive Draco? *fingers twitch*

I always thought he kinda was. *grins*

But oh, the moon thing and the voices! *huggles O-C!Draco*

And I've never really wondered why Obliviate isn't used very often--I guess because I actually used it once. ^^;; but I'm wary of it because--I mean, it doesn't have a counterspell, right? That's just abusing the poor, poor obliviated character. *clears throat* I don't think I should talk. ^^;;;

Also, loved the picture. It's just soft, and boundless and yay.

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

*giggles*
you're right, you -can't- talk :D and anyway, why is everyone being so "nice" about this? since when are we -nice- to characters? ahahahaahah. i mean, we kill them all the time, but taking away their memory of a bad relationship is a no-no? *laughs* such delicate sensibilities :D

and, thankees :D
glad you liked the doodle ^^

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[moriavis.livejournal.com]

:P on you. And the reason why 'Obliviate' disturbs me more than 'murder!death!destruction!kill!' is because death is natural. It happens to everyone. Death is the Great Equalizer and all that. But to have someone take your memory away, that is wrong on so many levels. It's like taking away part of that person and never giving it back. Like on Buffy, when Willow preformed the spell on Tara. That's one of the reasons Tara left, right?

Blah. Delicate sensibilities. (Don't tell anyone, but I really am a romantic. ^^;;)

And you're welcome, because I can't draw anything. But I can appreciate it. ^_^

[xerne.livejournal.com]

Well, I added you because you like Nina Kiriki Hoffman, which must be indicative of some measure of good taste.

[yourpoison.livejournal.com]

*grins* this is true. although the truth is, while i've gotten her latest book, i haven't read it yet since i have all this fanfic i (think i'll never) catch up on... which tells you something about my priorities lately. though as in reality, barely anything happens besides my talking about esoteric fannish stuff and most probably confusing everyone.
i suppose i'm just saying this doesn't tend to be a very personal journal, though i do have one if you want.

...just paranoid since the last time a non-fannish person added me and wound up dropping me even though they said "i like harry potter enough for the both of us".
whatever that means ^^
i think i have performance anxiety. *laughs* but yes. okay. i'll relax~:)