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I've just had the really somewhat disturbing experience of watching the latter half of a Gary Oldman 80s movie, Prick Up Your Ears. It had Alfred Malina in it as The Best Friend, except he was also his lover.

Well. I mean, at first I was so excited-- how many English queer movies are there, really? Not enough! And with Sirius Gary Oldman! Starts off with him being 17 and his best friend 23-- both aspiring novelists. John (Gary Oldman) is the smirky deceptive arsehole one who actually gets a break as a playwright-- and Kenneth (Alfred Malina) is the awkward unbalanced emotional basketcase one who loves him too much.

Man, I was eating it up and dreading watching more at the same time, 'cause I -knew- it couldn't end well-- and remember how much I liked `The Liar' (probably not)-- well, this is much more depressing.

I was going to squee and be like, Omg pre-Azkaban queer Sirius, on screen! And Gary is of course a complete natural at the role, it's really freaky-- and he seriously does act quite a lot like Sirius, except if he never made it to Gryffindor (which lands him somewhere halfway to Brian Kinney, it seems) . I just couldn't stop looking at all those beautiful half-smirks and devilish smiles he had and thinking wah Sirius waaahhhh and then he'd do something really bastardy again and... well, I was still Siriusssss. He wrote his first play about how he fell in love with his best friend. And it all went downhill from there.

Ahhhhh. I think I just realized just how hard it is to have happy endings with assholes in complete denial as characters, man.

Has anyone seen this movie? Probably not, I'm guessing. It's probably worth it just to see 20-something queer-boy Sirius Gary in full smirking action. Has a bite, that boy.

Date: 2004-11-10 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penelope-z.livejournal.com
Has anyone seen this movie? Probably not, I'm guessing.

It's not that obscure; it's a Stephen Frears film! I've seen it quite a few times.

Date: 2004-11-10 04:13 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] cathexys.livejournal.com
i saw it shortly after it came out...so my memories are more than vague...i actually have it on tape somewhere...i recalled the frears and malina...never even remembered sirius :-)

it's biographical, so you know how it ends, right?

Date: 2004-11-10 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bookshop.livejournal.com

Well, it helps if you know it's a true story and you know how their relationship ends before you watch it. Which I did before I saw the first half you saw. I'd like to see the rest some time, I was really enjoying it.

Date: 2004-11-10 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinderblast.livejournal.com
I saw the film before I read Joe Orton's work, and am now trying to get a copy of it on dvd to watch again (as the video copy that I saw was old and crummy and very, very dark). You should read Joe Orton's diaries, they're fascinating.

Gary Oldman is fantastic in the film, but Alfred Molina is just so compelling as his partner, he really almost steals the film.

Has anyone seen this movie? Probably not, I'm guessing.

It's actually fairly well-known, and given that it's about a notorious playwright, about a doomed gay love affair, is by a noted director and features these terrific actors, it's got it's cult audience requirements more than covered.

Date: 2004-11-10 06:46 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com
I've seen it--definitely worth seeing to the end. I especially remember this one line where the one character comments on his life from a playwrighter's pov...

And yes, totally Sirius!!

Date: 2004-11-10 09:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_inbetween_/
i saw it when it came out. wish i could get it again. loved oldman and orton and sympathised with bf.

maybe i am blind again, but why did you not watch the whole thing?

Date: 2004-11-10 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Heheh It's so weird that I keep managing to be confusing virtually every time I open my mouth :> When I said I saw half, I meant the second half~:) I only saw that much 'cause that's when I turned on the tv :>

Date: 2004-11-10 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
...But I did see it to the end >< *laughs* Okay, I edited the post, but man, isn't it odd how everyone thought I didn't? I admit I didn't quite want to, but it pulled me in-- I was really tired, having just walked 2 hours in freezing weather, etcetc. The ending was a bit of a wake-up. I think I missed a number of the subtleties, however :> :> I think I just kept watching for the smirks, really.

Date: 2004-11-10 10:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_inbetween_/
*ggg* that's good then. or not - you saw mostly the sad bits.

Date: 2004-11-10 10:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Y'know, in a way I almost liked the utter and complete "!!!" moment of not knowing. Usually you can kind of see it coming in a movie 'cause that'd be the -point-, and this was the first (only?) time the murder seemed rather... more minor. o_0
I saw the second half, though ;) Man, it just gets more and more depressing. I think I really wasn't watching it right, 'cause I was having all this extraneous attachment 'cause I was all OMG SIRIUS. Which probably messed with its intended effect :>

Date: 2004-11-10 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Yeah, pretty much :> Man, depressing.
I kept focusing on Gary's face, though, so there was always the happy. Like, 'eeeee, he's smiling again!' :> I am so easy :>

Date: 2004-11-10 10:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_inbetween_/
oh yes *pines* he was cute. but my heart broke for alfred. iirc. it has been too long *slight whine*

Date: 2004-11-10 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Yeah, they do sound interesting, though probably even more depressing than the movie.
In retrospect, it's just that they were scary in different ways, but Gary was more fun to watch, since Alfred Molina just made me cringe (though that was great acting on his part). Ahhh, the toupee.....

Man, apparently I'm way, way out of the loop when it comes to non-teen 80s movies. But then, I wasn't about to have seen it when it came out or anything (...as I was... what... 9) and we never did have cable until my last two years of HS. And for some reason I haven't seen many Gary Oldman movies in general. Am feeling rather plebeian at the moment ^^;;

Date: 2004-11-10 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bookshop.livejournal.com
See, that's why I never allow myself to let my opinion of one character an actor plays carry over into another. As tempting as it would be to go "Awwww, ikkle Draco!" when tom felton is all, "I didn't push you--i SHOVED you!" in Anna and the King, it's just really a boundary that doesn't get crossed for me easily. Like the whole thing with using actor icons to represent the character you think they look like, or the character they play, even, when the actor is out of character or in another film. My disbelief won't suspend that far.

eh. that's just me, though.

really want to see the film all the way through, now, though. :D

Date: 2004-11-10 10:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
Well, that was the surpring bit-- 'cause I don't really associate Gary Oldman with Sirius at all-- except I see all these young!Gary manips which seem different from movie!Sirius ('cause it actually seems he's more like Sirius 'au naturale' or in other roles). Anyway, the reason it 'clicked' wasn't just because it was Gary, but because he was smirky and assholish and queer and in 60s England omg and just all of it together... I mean, for a little bit, when they were on a college campus (I think?) I was really almost totally pretending this was Sirius just because I -could- and his expressions totally worked. It was unusual for me, really.

But uh, eventually I did get over that and just get drawn into the movie, which was actually more depressing :> But at least their ashes were scattered together :-?

Date: 2004-11-10 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
well, it was filmed before sirius, so that would make sense :D :D and i did see it to the end... which i was glad for, though it's a difficult movie to watch (well, if you're not continuously being pleased just because it's gary-omg-sirius-omg). man, the ending totally came out of left field, and i was like, 'omg, -this- would never happen in real life' and then i found out it -did-, which. oh man, truth really is more messed up than fiction.

Date: 2004-11-10 11:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourpoison.livejournal.com
...This would be enlightening if I'd actually heard of Stephen Frears before ^^;; Somehow I don't think they show him much on American tv, at least~:)

Date: 2004-11-10 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pinkfinity.livejournal.com
Just had to cut in & note that I'm off to see The King & I's touring production in about 2 hours... Bit of a nonsequitor, but at least it's not a musical version of The Borrowers.

Date: 2004-11-10 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laura-the-auror.livejournal.com
That's a fab film. Oldman's resemblance to Joe Orton is just uncanny. Julie Walters - brilliant (as always). I just realised I never read Orton's diaries. I know so much about Orton & Halliwell from reading Kenneth Williams' Diaries. Pity he wasn't portrayed in the film. By Chris Barrie (you know he would be perfect - flaring nostrils).

Date: 2004-11-11 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinderblast.livejournal.com
That dreadful toupee, I know! But it was so brave of Alfred Molina to make his character so, well, unsympathetic.

Pointed here by <lj user=chresimos>

Date: 2004-11-13 09:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pauraque
I saw it too, and liked it quite a bit. I did a post about it, in fact. :)
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