To me this is sort of like the debate over "she wanted it because she wore this tight little dress" or spousal rape because "dude, s/he's my fucking wife/husband! S/he's supposed to fuck me!" Both are just excuses to justify the actions in terms of 'they enjoyed it.' Enjoying it doesn't make it any less rape.
I guess my problem with this, even in literature, is that it minimalizes the psychological impact. It's usually worse for the people who enjoy it or orgasm. They feel like their body's betrayed them.
See, my realism kink totally outweighs my non-con/rape kink. Totally. My mother was a social worker who worked with abused kids all when I was growing up. You have no idea what rapes does to these people. I hate seeing it treated frivolously.
I think, as I would term things, what you want to see in terms of coercion isn't strict non-con, because at some point there is consent simply because of the totality or the inevitability of things happening. Questionable consent, yes, non-con/rape, no.
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Date: 2003-10-13 05:58 pm (UTC)I guess my problem with this, even in literature, is that it minimalizes the psychological impact. It's usually worse for the people who enjoy it or orgasm. They feel like their body's betrayed them.
See, my realism kink totally outweighs my non-con/rape kink. Totally. My mother was a social worker who worked with abused kids all when I was growing up. You have no idea what rapes does to these people. I hate seeing it treated frivolously.
I think, as I would term things, what you want to see in terms of coercion isn't strict non-con, because at some point there is consent simply because of the totality or the inevitability of things happening. Questionable consent, yes, non-con/rape, no.